Re: [Qgis-developer] [Qgis-user] Announcing the release of QGIS 2.8.2 'Wien'

2015-05-10 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 10/05/2015 22:19, Jürgen E. Fischer ha scritto: > QGIS is a user friendly Open Source Geographic Information System > that runs on Linux, Unix, Mac OSX, and Windows. > > We are very pleased to announce the point release of QGIS 2.8.2 'Wien'. > Wien is German for 'Vienna' - host city to our deve

[Qgis-developer] Announcing the release of QGIS 2.8.2 'Wien'

2015-05-10 Thread Jürgen E . Fischer
QGIS is a user friendly Open Source Geographic Information System that runs on Linux, Unix, Mac OSX, and Windows. We are very pleased to announce the point release of QGIS 2.8.2 'Wien'. Wien is German for 'Vienna' - host city to our developer meet up in November 2009 and again in March 2014. As p

Re: [Qgis-developer] Qt4->Qt5 timeline: Qt4's status and Qt4's webkit removal in Stretch

2015-05-10 Thread Matthias Kuhn
On mobile devices we are already locked in a situation without QtWebkit (Partiallly due to vendor policies I believe). So I would very much enjoy to see the usage of it being kept to as little as possible. For those interested in the current state, that's what's required to compile QGIS 2.8 withou

Re: [Qgis-developer] Qt4->Qt5 timeline: Qt4's status and Qt4's webkit removal in Stretch

2015-05-10 Thread Sebastiaan Couwenberg
On 05/10/2015 05:02 PM, Anita Graser wrote: > On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 3:39 PM, Sebastiaan Couwenberg > wrote: > >> On 05/10/2015 03:13 PM, Jürgen E. Fischer wrote: >> ​>​ >> 2.8 >>> can't be maintained w/o Qt4, Python2 and PyQt4. But when stretch >>> is released, support for 2.8 is long gone.

Re: [Qgis-developer] Qt4->Qt5 timeline: Qt4's status and Qt4's webkit removal in Stretch

2015-05-10 Thread Anita Graser
On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 3:39 PM, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: > On 05/10/2015 03:13 PM, Jürgen E. Fischer wrote: > ​>​ > 2.8 > > can't be maintained w/o Qt4, Python2 and PyQt4. But when stretch > > is released, support for 2.8 is long gone. > > > > So I don't really see the urgency about this.

Re: [Qgis-developer] Qt4->Qt5 timeline: Qt4's status and Qt4's webkit removal in Stretch

2015-05-10 Thread Sebastiaan Couwenberg
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 05/10/2015 03:13 PM, Jürgen E. Fischer wrote: > I would rather like to know what it actually takes to support > Python3 and PyQt5. Did anyone try yet? My trials ended with missing dependencies. The changes for Qt5 are in the Debian GIS git repos

Re: [Qgis-developer] Qt4->Qt5 timeline: Qt4's status and Qt4's webkit removal in Stretch

2015-05-10 Thread Sebastiaan Couwenberg
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 05/10/2015 03:13 PM, Jürgen E. Fischer wrote: > On Sun, 10. May 2015 at 14:48:14 +0200, Tim Sutton wrote: >> My apologies I missed the part about a 2 year transition period >> from Sebastiaan - which probably negates part of my message >> above. >

Re: [Qgis-developer] Qt4->Qt5 timeline: Qt4's status and Qt4's webkit removal in Stretch

2015-05-10 Thread Jürgen E . Fischer
Hi Tim, On Sun, 10. May 2015 at 14:48:14 +0200, Tim Sutton wrote: > My apologies I missed the part about a 2 year transition period from > Sebastiaan - which probably negates part of my message above. Apparently a lot of people seem to miss that. We might loose unstable support at some point ov

Re: [Qgis-developer] Qt4->Qt5 timeline: Qt4's status and Qt4's webkit removal in Stretch

2015-05-10 Thread Tim Sutton
> On 10 May 2015, at 14:46, Tim Sutton wrote: > > Hi > > What about considering alternative packaging methods? For example making an > equivalent of the windows standalone package for Linux. A long time ago I > used to build QGIS and all its dependencies into a directory (e.g. > /opt/qgis2.

Re: [Qgis-developer] Qt4->Qt5 timeline: Qt4's status and Qt4's webkit removal in Stretch

2015-05-10 Thread Tim Sutton
Hi What about considering alternative packaging methods? For example making an equivalent of the windows standalone package for Linux. A long time ago I used to build QGIS and all its dependencies into a directory (e.g. /opt/qgis2.8) and then use a launcher script to update the library paths

Re: [Qgis-developer] Qt4->Qt5 timeline: Qt4's status and Qt4's webkit removal in Stretch

2015-05-10 Thread Sebastiaan Couwenberg
On 05/10/2015 02:16 PM, Anita Graser wrote: > On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Paolo Cavallini wrote: >> Seems a rather serious issue. Shouldn't we reconsider our roadmap >> accordingly? >> > > ​I don't seem to be able to find any dates mentioned in the linked > resources. When (date) will Debian

Re: [Qgis-developer] Qt4->Qt5 timeline: Qt4's status and Qt4's webkit removal in Stretch

2015-05-10 Thread Anita Graser
On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Paolo Cavallini wrote: > Seems a rather serious issue. Shouldn't we reconsider our roadmap > accordingly? > ​I don't seem to be able to find any dates mentioned in the linked resources. When (date) will Debian remove Qt4? This basically warms up our discussion o

Re: [Qgis-developer] Qt4->Qt5 timeline: Qt4's status and Qt4's webkit removal in Stretch

2015-05-10 Thread Mathieu Pellerin
That's a pretty serious drawback. If there's no way around this, we need to make sure composer labels are improved (and hopefully plug in the canvas label drawing engine to the composer labels). M On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 4:19 PM, Nyall Dawson wrote: > On 10 May 2015 at 18:51, Matthias Kuhn wro

Re: [Qgis-developer] Qt4->Qt5 timeline: Qt4's status and Qt4's webkit removal in Stretch

2015-05-10 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Seems a rather serious issue. Shouldn't we reconsider our roadmap accordingly? All the best. Il 10 maggio 2015 11:25:23 CEST, Sebastiaan Couwenberg ha scritto: >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >Hash: SHA512 > >On 05/10/2015 10:51 AM, Matthias Kuhn wrote: >> Hi >> >> On 05/09/2015 03:28 PM, P

Re: [Qgis-developer] Qt4->Qt5 timeline: Qt4's status and Qt4's webkit removal in Stretch

2015-05-10 Thread Sebastiaan Couwenberg
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 05/10/2015 10:51 AM, Matthias Kuhn wrote: > Hi > > On 05/09/2015 03:28 PM, Paolo Cavallini wrote: >> Il 09/05/2015 12:38, Sebastiaan Couwenberg ha scritto: >> >>> How feasible is switching to Python 3? >> I believe this would be a huge issue: mo

Re: [Qgis-developer] Qt4->Qt5 timeline: Qt4's status and Qt4's webkit removal in Stretch

2015-05-10 Thread Nyall Dawson
On 10 May 2015 at 18:51, Matthias Kuhn wrote: > The other issue is that there's a rather big dependency on QtWebkit > currently. We are struggling already with that on Android. > Alternatives > * QtWebEngine is the future but only available starting from Qt 5.4. So > this is not an option now. >

Re: [Qgis-developer] Qt4->Qt5 timeline: Qt4's status and Qt4's webkit removal in Stretch

2015-05-10 Thread Matthias Kuhn
Hi On 05/09/2015 03:28 PM, Paolo Cavallini wrote: > Il 09/05/2015 12:38, Sebastiaan Couwenberg ha scritto: > >> How feasible is switching to Python 3? > I believe this would be a huge issue: most or all plugins will not work, > both the internal and the external ones, so our qgis will be badly lam