Re: [QGIS-Developer] [Qgis-psc] Request for Change of UserAgent

2019-02-24 Thread Jonathan Moules
Interesting thought. But then, what scenario are you imagining? "Mozilla 5.0" is typically for web-browsers (Richards original point), it doesn't seem to be used for most other GIS and tooling (at least when making OGC requests). Examples of other user-agents that I have to hand (somewhat date

Re: [QGIS-Developer] [Qgis-psc] Request for Change of UserAgent

2019-02-24 Thread Nyall Dawson
On Mon, 25 Feb 2019 at 09:05, Jonathan Moules wrote: > > This makes sense, but thinking about it, it doesn't seem plausible. > > If I were whitelisting user agents, there are three ways I'd consider > doing it. > > Explicit full string: > * "Mozilla/5.0 QGIS/3.4.3-Madeira" - except of course that'

Re: [QGIS-Developer] [Qgis-psc] Request for Change of UserAgent

2019-02-24 Thread Jonathan Moules
This makes sense, but thinking about it, it doesn't seem plausible. If I were whitelisting user agents, there are three ways I'd consider doing it. Explicit full string: * "Mozilla/5.0 QGIS/3.4.3-Madeira" - except of course that'd break next time someone updates QGIS by even a point version.

Re: [QGIS-Developer] [Qgis-psc] Request for Change of UserAgent

2019-02-24 Thread Nyall Dawson
On Sun, 24 Feb 2019 at 04:38, Jonathan Moules wrote: > > Hi Richard, > > I don't think without more information it's clear precisely what QGIS > should change to help them? > > Indeed, personally I'm still not sure what the current problem is for > them. I get that they have some over-users of the

Re: [QGIS-Developer] [Qgis-psc] Request for Change of UserAgent

2019-02-23 Thread Jonathan Moules
Hi Richard, I don't think without more information it's clear precisely what QGIS should change to help them? Indeed, personally I'm still not sure what the current problem is for them. I get that they have some over-users of their service and need to curtail this (a very tricky problem), bu

Re: [QGIS-Developer] [Qgis-psc] Request for Change of UserAgent

2019-02-23 Thread Richard Duivenvoorde
On 23/02/2019 12.04, Jonathan Moules wrote: > It seems to me there are a few different aspects to this. > > - The convention is to stick "Mozilla 5" into user-agents for browsers > because every other browser uses it. At this point they all pretend to > be each other - > https://stackoverflow.com/

Re: [QGIS-Developer] [Qgis-psc] Request for Change of UserAgent

2019-02-23 Thread Jonathan Moules
It seems to me there are a few different aspects to this. - The convention is to stick "Mozilla 5" into user-agents for browsers because every other browser uses it. At this point they all pretend to be each other - https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1114254/why-do-all-browsers-user-agents-st

Re: [QGIS-Developer] [Qgis-psc] Request for Change of UserAgent

2019-02-21 Thread Richard Duivenvoorde
On 21/02/2019 08.56, Mathieu Pellerin wrote: > I would really like to understand (i.e. get an explanation) from the OSM > admins as to why a user agent that explicitly identifies itself as QGIS > like we have now is not enough for them before moving forward. > > Being a web admin/developer myself,

Re: [QGIS-Developer] [Qgis-psc] Request for Change of UserAgent

2019-02-20 Thread Mathieu Pellerin
I would really like to understand (i.e. get an explanation) from the OSM admins as to why a user agent that explicitly identifies itself as QGIS like we have now is not enough for them before moving forward. Being a web admin/developer myself, I can hardly find a reason why that's not enough. I'm

Re: [QGIS-Developer] [Qgis-psc] Request for Change of UserAgent

2019-02-20 Thread Richard Duivenvoorde
On 21/02/2019 00.20, Nyall Dawson wrote: > On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 at 02:30, Richard Duivenvoorde > wrote: >> >> Hi Devs, PSC, >> >> I had a short talk on IRC to 'Firefishy' the person who runs >> tile.openstreetmap.org CDN >> (in bcc, and see: http://irclogs.geoapt.com/qgis/%23qgis.2019-02-20.log) >

Re: [QGIS-Developer] [Qgis-psc] Request for Change of UserAgent

2019-02-20 Thread Nyall Dawson
On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 at 02:30, Richard Duivenvoorde wrote: > > Hi Devs, PSC, > > I had a short talk on IRC to 'Firefishy' the person who runs > tile.openstreetmap.org CDN > (in bcc, and see: http://irclogs.geoapt.com/qgis/%23qgis.2019-02-20.log) > > In short: he/osm has an issue with QGIS using 'Mo