[QGIS-Developer] Dropping the extra label placement algorithms?

2019-07-25 Thread Nyall Dawson
Hey lists This was first discussed back in 2016 (see http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/Removal-of-labeling-search-methods-td5262743.html), but would anyone object if the different labeling solution algorithms eg "chain" / "pop music" / "falp" / etc were dropped, and we just leave the existing de

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Dropping the extra label placement algorithms?

2019-07-28 Thread Nyall Dawson
On Fri, 26 Jul 2019 at 12:40, Nyall Dawson wrote: > > Hey lists > > This was first discussed back in 2016 (see > http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/Removal-of-labeling-search-methods-td5262743.html), > but would anyone object if the different labeling solution algorithms > eg "chain" / "pop music

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Dropping the extra label placement algorithms?

2019-07-28 Thread Carlo A. Bertelli (Charta s.r.l.)
Label placement took a lot of time and efforts in the past and this is the outcome. It's true, there is no real need for it while on screen, but it could be very useful in Layout. The problem is similar to generalisation, you need proper data to support label placement. Losing the relationship with

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Dropping the extra label placement algorithms?

2019-07-28 Thread Nyall Dawson
On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 at 16:28, Carlo A. Bertelli (Charta s.r.l.) wrote: > > Label placement took a lot of time and efforts in the past and this is the > outcome. > It's true, there is no real need for it while on screen, but it could be very > useful in Layout. The problem is similar to generalis

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Dropping the extra label placement algorithms?

2019-07-29 Thread Carlo A. Bertelli (Charta s.r.l.)
Yes, if you consider trial and error a mindful method, I "use" label placement algorithms when preparing a cartographic layout for printing. I mainly work on geographic data and web output, so it's not frequent and I follow the easy and dumb way: I swap algorithms, hoping for a result that solves c

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Dropping the extra label placement algorithms?

2019-08-05 Thread Nyall Dawson
On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 at 17:33, Carlo A. Bertelli (Charta s.r.l.) wrote: > > Yes, if you consider trial and error a mindful method, I "use" label > placement algorithms when preparing a cartographic layout for printing. > I mainly work on geographic data and web output, so it's not frequent and I

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Dropping the extra label placement algorithms?

2019-08-05 Thread Anita Graser
On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 4:40 AM Nyall Dawson wrote: > Does ANYONE understand or change this setting? Or would object to its > complete removal? > I'd be +1 for removal. I know about the setting, don't understand the algorithmic differences, have tried them in the past, didn't see meaningful diff

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Dropping the extra label placement algorithms?

2019-08-05 Thread Régis Haubourg
+1 for the removal too. Never could explain the difference. Playing with number of candidates is a lot more useful than changing the algorithm. Best regards Régis Le mar. 6 août 2019 à 08:14, Anita Graser a écrit : > On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 4:40 AM Nyall Dawson > wrote: > >> Does ANYONE underst

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Dropping the extra label placement algorithms?

2019-08-05 Thread Luigi Pirelli
Hi Nyall "Ok, we've hit a stalemate then. I was hoping to drop the additional algorithms..." please remove. Try and error without a good statistic or collection of maps where these options can do the difference IMHO is not strong enough respect cleaning code and void bug fixing. Luigi Pirelli **

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Dropping the extra label placement algorithms?

2019-08-06 Thread Tim Sutton
Hi I don't think there has been a strong enough argument to keep the extra bloat.and the potential goodies you hint at coming if they are removed have a broader benefit to all users over some hidden features that nobody understands. Tim Sutton Co-founder of Kartoza Ex-QGIS project chairm

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Dropping the extra label placement algorithms?

2019-08-06 Thread matteo
Hi Nyall, > Ok, we've hit a stalemate then. I was hoping to drop the additional > algorithms to allow some desirable new features like avoiding > duplicate text labels within xxx mm of others (e.g. avoiding too many > labels for dual-carriage highways), and use that some logic to start > implemen