Re: [QGIS-Developer] [Qgis-developer] Adding default OSM backround maps

2017-07-18 Thread Stefan Keller
Coming back to the original thread, Petr just made an interesting proposal [1], asking why no integrate into QGIS a vector global basemap? He is also offering ready made vector tiles data (MBTiles) which we (QGIS) could host ourselves. The styling would be done in QGIS. He's also referring to

Re: [QGIS-Developer] [Qgis-developer] Adding default OSM backround maps

2017-06-21 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 21/06/2017 07:59, Richard Duivenvoorde ha scritto: > It is a LOT of work, both styling and running an open server hosting > world data in a custom style. You need also quite a lot > cpu/disk/connection resources for it to perform well. > > So somebody needs to put time/resources in it, AND

Re: [QGIS-Developer] [Qgis-developer] Adding default OSM backround maps

2017-06-20 Thread Richard Duivenvoorde
On 20-06-17 23:14, Stéphane Henriod wrote: > Hi all > > in the last 3 weeks there hasn't been any contribution on this QEP or in > the Google Doc. Should I assume that it hasn't raised lots attention > because it is not seen as a priority feature? In this case, I guess we > can remove the QEP (or

Re: [QGIS-Developer] [Qgis-developer] Adding default OSM backround maps

2017-06-20 Thread Nathan Woodrow
Hey, I think most of us are pretty busy just with the ramp up to 3.0. The idea is fine however the proposal requires hosting map tiles, which may come at a large cost if hit hard. I think your best bet is to follow leads on that front first, if you can get someone to step up to host the tiles

Re: [QGIS-Developer] [Qgis-developer] Adding default OSM backround maps

2017-06-20 Thread Stéphane Henriod
Hi all in the last 3 weeks there hasn't been any contribution on this QEP or in the Google Doc. Should I assume that it hasn't raised lots attention because it is not seen as a priority feature? In this case, I guess we can remove the QEP (or change its status to "Postponed") Or is it just that

Re: [QGIS-Developer] [Qgis-developer] Adding default OSM backround maps

2017-06-06 Thread Stéphane Henriod
As recommended by Jorge, I just opened a QEP: https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Enhancement-Proposals/issues/94 But I would still suggest to keep the discussion on the Gdoc. I think it's a more flexible place for brainstorming. If we get some kind of consensus there, then I will fill up the QEP with

Re: [QGIS-Developer] [Qgis-developer] Adding default OSM backround maps

2017-06-06 Thread Stéphane Henriod
Hi again if some are with me on this, let's try to work first on general requirements. Then we can assess, I guess, relatively soon if this is realistic or not. I started to brainstorm here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1f1OJtshHCPcLVEVqZjTEgI47zn61Plv5I-Yc68d2b64/edit?usp=sharing Thanks

Re: [QGIS-Developer] [Qgis-developer] Adding default OSM backround maps

2017-06-06 Thread Jorge Gustavo Rocha
Hi Stéphane, Your suggestion may complement or be an alternative to the default OSM background maps. Regarding the implementation of the initial proposal, it is not difficult and have been done in PR#4352. It is basically one button to add another layer to the map. Creating a new vector tile

Re: [QGIS-Developer] [Qgis-developer] Adding default OSM backround maps

2017-06-06 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 06/06/2017 11:57, Stéphane Henriod ha scritto: > Would that idea be worth exploring further? Or do you think it is > completely not realistic ? Hi Stéphane, we have been thiking about this, but probably we do not have the resources to manage it. I'd be happy if I could be proved wrong. All the

Re: [QGIS-Developer] [Qgis-developer] Adding default OSM backround maps

2017-06-06 Thread Stéphane Henriod
Hi all jumping (a bit late) on this... I realize that this would be much heavier and much more expensive to implement but what about developing a "QGIS style" for OSM-based tiles (that could, e.g., be hosted on QGIS.org)? That would take care of 3 issues: - "Quality of the cartography": if

Re: [Qgis-developer] Adding default OSM backround maps

2017-05-01 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 30/04/2017 19:28, Jorge Gustavo Rocha ha scritto: > I did a PR [1], very simple. This discussion is now about the best > approach to handle all settings, in all platforms. I'm working on that. FYI, summarized here: https://issues.qgis.org/issues/16493 Please add what is missing. Thanks. --

Re: [Qgis-developer] Adding default OSM backround maps

2017-04-30 Thread Jorge Gustavo Rocha
Hi Paolo, I did a PR [1], very simple. This discussion is now about the best approach to handle all settings, in all platforms. I'm working on that. Best regards, Jorge Gustavo [1] https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/4352 Às 17:23 de 30-04-2017, Paolo Cavallini escreveu: > Hi all, > during a

Re: [Qgis-developer] Adding default OSM backround maps

2017-04-30 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Hi all, during a meeting with Etienne and Alessnadro we put up this proposal: * add an entry in settings with an URL where we store details about XYZ servers * add a button on the Add XYZ dialog "Get default servers" * QGIS connects to the URL above and get the list with: * URL of the service

Re: [Qgis-developer] Adding default OSM backround maps

2017-04-28 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 27/03/2017 12:25, Jürgen E. Fischer ha scritto: > On Tue, 21. Mar 2017 at 14:58:30 +, Jorge Gustavo Rocha wrote: >> 1. The UserAgent is already a configurable feature in QGIS (under >> Options/Network). Any user can change it, but we can propose another >> default value. > > Correct. And

Re: [Qgis-developer] Adding default OSM backround maps

2017-03-27 Thread Jürgen E . Fischer
On Tue, 21. Mar 2017 at 14:58:30 +, Jorge Gustavo Rocha wrote: > 1. The UserAgent is already a configurable feature in QGIS (under > Options/Network). Any user can change it, but we can propose another > default value. Correct. And the default is what Qt would use by default. There might be

Re: [Qgis-developer] Adding default OSM backround maps

2017-03-22 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 22/03/2017 13:51, Tim Sutton ha scritto: > Hi > >> On 22 Mar 2017, at 2:44 PM, Alexander Bruy > > wrote: >> >> -1 to load any background map by default. Think about offline users >> and users with limited internet connections. Loading

Re: [Qgis-developer] Adding default OSM backround maps

2017-03-22 Thread Tom Chadwin
Greg Troxel-2 wrote > According to the policy, QGIS would probably need permission to offer > tiles from OSM servers. That is what Paolo has been discussing with OSM. Greg Troxel-2 wrote > I'm unclear if this discussion is only about using OSM as a base layer > within QGIS, or also extends to

Re: [Qgis-developer] Adding default OSM backround maps

2017-03-22 Thread Tim Sutton
Hi > On 22 Mar 2017, at 2:44 PM, Alexander Bruy wrote: > > -1 to load any background map by default. Think about offline users > and users with limited internet connections. Loading background map > may be not acceptable for them > > Also why load map? We can just add

Re: [Qgis-developer] Adding default OSM backround maps

2017-03-22 Thread Alexander Bruy
-1 to load any background map by default. Think about offline users and users with limited internet connections. Loading background map may be not acceptable for them Also why load map? We can just add some default servers to the "Add XYZ layer" dialog like we already have in WMS/WFS dialogs.

Re: [Qgis-developer] Adding default OSM backround maps

2017-03-22 Thread Greg Troxel
For context, I've only been lurking and intend to use QGIS when I get time. I have been an OSM mapper for 8 years. Paolo Cavallini writes: > Il 21/03/2017 15:58, Jorge Gustavo Rocha ha scritto: > >> 1. The UserAgent is already a configurable feature in QGIS (under >>

Re: [Qgis-developer] Adding default OSM backround maps

2017-03-22 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Hi Jorge, thanks for taking this. Il 21/03/2017 15:58, Jorge Gustavo Rocha ha scritto: > 1. The UserAgent is already a configurable feature in QGIS (under > Options/Network). Any user can change it, but we can propose another > default value. thanks - so, which could be the right default? > 2.

Re: [Qgis-developer] Adding default OSM backround maps

2017-03-22 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 22/03/2017 06:07, Tim Sutton ha scritto: > Hi Tom and Mathieu > > > Ok good responsesI'll withdraw my suggestion for now Agreed, thanks to all for the suggestion. IMHO OSM could be a first, then it should be easy to add new ones. All the best. -- Paolo Cavallini - www.faunalia.eu

Re: [Qgis-developer] Adding default OSM backround maps

2017-03-21 Thread Tim Sutton
Hi Tom and Mathieu Ok good responsesI'll withdraw my suggestion for now Regards Tim Sutton Co-founder of Kartoza QGIS project chairman > On 22 Mar 2017, at 5:11 AM, Mathieu Pellerin wrote: > > Tim, > > -1 to use OSM-based XYZ tile server that doesn't

Re: [Qgis-developer] Adding default OSM backround maps

2017-03-21 Thread Mathieu Pellerin
Tim, -1 to use OSM-based XYZ tile server that doesn't update its dataset on a regular basis (+/- weekly). While there are nicer styles that OSM's default one, one of the fundamental dynamic of OSM is the ability to update / add spatial data and see those updates reflected on tiles immediately. We

Re: [Qgis-developer] Adding default OSM backround maps

2017-03-21 Thread Tom Chadwin
Hi Tim Tim Sutton-6 wrote > One thing that I would suggest is that we do not use the default tile > renders for OSM - it would be much nicer to provide something 'consumer' > orientated rather than the OSM renders which are great for visualizing a > broad range of OSM feature types but not IMHO

Re: [Qgis-developer] Adding default OSM backround maps

2017-03-21 Thread Tim Sutton
Hi Its really great to see this Paolo. I think the OSM requests all sound reasonable and if we do start representing a high load on their servers we could consider adding a caching proxy between QGIS clients and OSM tile server so that we don't hit their servers too hard. One thing that I

Re: [Qgis-developer] Adding default OSM backround maps

2017-03-21 Thread Jorge Gustavo Rocha
Hi Paolo, I can help on this. 1. The UserAgent is already a configurable feature in QGIS (under Options/Network). Any user can change it, but we can propose another default value. 2. The QGIS community is very much aware of OpenStreetMap. If we really need to make our users more aware, does it

[Qgis-developer] Adding default OSM backround maps

2017-03-21 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Hi all, we have been exploring the possibility of adding default XYZ maps to QGIS, so to make life far easier for users. The good news is that the OSM board is quite positive about this. The not-so-good news is that their (I believe reasonable) requirements imply some more development from our