Re: [Qgis-developer] Directions needed for GSOC Proposal

2012-03-26 Thread G. Allegri
; >> >> >> giovanni >> >> >> >> 2012/3/26 Peter Borissow >> >> >> >>> Do you need to GPL all of SETANTE or just the glueware (e.g. QGIS >> plugin)? >> >>> In otherwords, is there a way to keep the SEXTANTE core MIT or L

Re: [Qgis-developer] Directions needed for GSOC Proposal

2012-03-26 Thread G. Allegri
here a way to keep the SEXTANTE core MIT or LGPL? > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> *From:* Victor Olaya > >>> *To:* cavall...@faunalia.it > >>> *Cc:* qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org > >>> *

Re: [Qgis-developer] Directions needed for GSOC Proposal

2012-03-26 Thread Alex Mandel
- >>> *From:* Victor Olaya >>> *To:* cavall...@faunalia.it >>> *Cc:* qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org >>> *Sent:* Monday, March 26, 2012 6:10 AM >>> *Subject:* Re: [Qgis-developer] Directions needed for GSOC Proposal >>> >>> Then, I

Re: [Qgis-developer] Directions needed for GSOC Proposal

2012-03-26 Thread Alex Mandel
; >> >> -- >> *From:* Victor Olaya >> *To:* cavall...@faunalia.it >> *Cc:* qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org >> *Sent:* Monday, March 26, 2012 6:10 AM >> *Subject:* Re: [Qgis-developer] Directions needed for GSOC Proposal >>

Re: [Qgis-developer] Directions needed for GSOC Proposal

2012-03-26 Thread G. Allegri
Ok, it's clear now Vincent. The exception is only related to system libraries, while it doesn't apply to code that executes inside a GPL application (which doesn't provide the exception). 2012/3/26 G. Allegri > >> > > Generally, you can link to a non-free library from a GPL code if you >> > >

Re: [Qgis-developer] Directions needed for GSOC Proposal

2012-03-26 Thread G. Allegri
> > > > > Generally, you can link to a non-free library from a GPL code if you > > > deliver > > > your GPL code with a specific exception for that non-free library. > I understand that you can link proprietary code IF you add a specific exception. I cannot grasp the point, but I give up for now

Re: [Qgis-developer] Directions needed for GSOC Proposal

2012-03-26 Thread Vincent Picavet
Hi, > So, the statement "you can import/link proprietary code into gpl code, > provided you have a license to do it." should be extended with "if you add > an exception to the license", right? No, it's a general statement, reread my post. > So the problem is that QGis license should contain these

Re: [Qgis-developer] Directions needed for GSOC Proposal

2012-03-26 Thread G. Allegri
Thanks Vincent. So, the statement "you can import/link proprietary code into gpl code, provided you have a license to do it." should be extended with "if you add an exception to the license", right? So the problem is that QGis license should contain these exceptions on behalf of all the plugins? I

Re: [Qgis-developer] Directions needed for GSOC Proposal

2012-03-26 Thread Vincent Picavet
Hi, Well, this is not an easy topic, but everything is answered in the GNU FAQ on licences : http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html To shorten a bit and in relation to what has been said before. There is an exception to the GPL licence for system libraries. It does not apply here, as we are ta

Re: [Qgis-developer] Directions needed for GSOC Proposal

2012-03-26 Thread G. Allegri
I would really appreciate if you could explain me this point, seriously. giovanni 2012/3/26 G. Allegri > I apologize for my ignorance, could you explain me the differences? > You say that I cannot do an import in python to load ArcGIS code, but here > you say that I can import/link proprietary

Re: [Qgis-developer] Directions needed for GSOC Proposal

2012-03-26 Thread G. Allegri
I apologize for my ignorance, could you explain me the differences? You say that I cannot do an import in python to load ArcGIS code, but here you say that I can import/link proprietary code in GPL code.I see a contradiction here. I apologize again if I cannot get to the point... giovanni 2012/3/

Re: [Qgis-developer] Directions needed for GSOC Proposal

2012-03-26 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 26/03/2012 15:08, G. Allegri ha scritto: > Have I misunderstood it? yes -- Paolo Cavallini - Faunalia www.faunalia.eu Full contact details at www.faunalia.eu/pc ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/ma

Re: [Qgis-developer] Directions needed for GSOC Proposal

2012-03-26 Thread G. Allegri
> > you can import/link proprietary code into gpl code, provided you have a > license to do it. > all the best. > It's exactly the opposite of what you're saying on the other thread. You're saying that it's illegal to import proprietary code into a qgis python plugin. Have I misunderstood it? gi

Re: [Qgis-developer] Directions needed for GSOC Proposal

2012-03-26 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 26/03/2012 14:26, G. Allegri ha scritto: > I would keep it LGPL. I'm not interested in wrapping it in proprietary code, > but to > use proprietary code through SEXTANTE... you can import/link proprietary code into gpl code, provided you have a license to do it. all the best. -- Paolo Cavalli

Re: [Qgis-developer] Directions needed for GSOC Proposal

2012-03-26 Thread G. Allegri
XTANTE core MIT or LGPL? > > > -- > *From:* Victor Olaya > *To:* cavall...@faunalia.it > *Cc:* qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org > *Sent:* Monday, March 26, 2012 6:10 AM > *Subject:* Re: [Qgis-developer] Directions needed for GSOC Proposal > >

Re: [Qgis-developer] Directions needed for GSOC Proposal

2012-03-26 Thread Peter Borissow
AM Subject: Re: [Qgis-developer] Directions needed for GSOC Proposal Then, I guess there is no discussion. As I said, in this case there is no difference from my point of view, so GPL is a good option for SEXTANTE Regards ___ Qgis-developer mailing

Re: [Qgis-developer] Directions needed for GSOC Proposal

2012-03-26 Thread Anne Ghisla
On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 14:43:50 +0530 "arunthe...@gmail.com" wrote: > Hello all, > > On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Victor Olaya > wrote: > > > If the work to do is based on SEXTANTE, then I am definitely > > available, and really willing to do it :-) > > Thank you all. So, I think finally I h

Re: [Qgis-developer] Directions needed for GSOC Proposal

2012-03-26 Thread G. Allegri
2012/3/26 Vincent Picavet > Hi, > > Le lundi 26 mars 2012 12:01:20, Paolo Cavallini a écrit : > > Il 26/03/2012 12:01, G. Allegri ha scritto: > > > I think the GPL code is mandatory for the "bridge", eventually. Not all > > > the underlying code requires to be GPL. Am I wrong? > > > > I did some

Re: [Qgis-developer] Directions needed for GSOC Proposal

2012-03-26 Thread Vincent Picavet
Hi, > > I did some research as well, and came to the same conclusion. > > Studies have been done (by the zope group among others), and this is the > > general final statement. > > > > Vincent > > We need to capture this knowledge along with backlinks to original > articles as this is a topic tha

Re: [Qgis-developer] Directions needed for GSOC Proposal

2012-03-26 Thread Tim Sutton
Hi On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Vincent Picavet wrote: > Hi, > > Le lundi 26 mars 2012 12:01:20, Paolo Cavallini a écrit : >> Il 26/03/2012 12:01, G. Allegri ha scritto: >> > I think the GPL code is mandatory for the "bridge", eventually. Not all >> > the underlying code requires to be GPL.

Re: [Qgis-developer] Directions needed for GSOC Proposal

2012-03-26 Thread Victor Olaya
Then, I guess there is no discussion. As I said, in this case there is no difference from my point of view, so GPL is a good option for SEXTANTE Regards ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinf

Re: [Qgis-developer] Directions needed for GSOC Proposal

2012-03-26 Thread Vincent Picavet
Hi, Le lundi 26 mars 2012 12:01:20, Paolo Cavallini a écrit : > Il 26/03/2012 12:01, G. Allegri ha scritto: > > I think the GPL code is mandatory for the "bridge", eventually. Not all > > the underlying code requires to be GPL. Am I wrong? > > I did some research on this, and the conclusion is th

Re: [Qgis-developer] Directions needed for GSOC Proposal

2012-03-26 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 26/03/2012 12:01, G. Allegri ha scritto: > I think the GPL code is mandatory for the "bridge", eventually. Not all the > underlying code requires to be GPL. Am I wrong? I did some research on this, and the conclusion is that import is functionally and legally equivalent to linking during comp

Re: [Qgis-developer] Directions needed for GSOC Proposal

2012-03-26 Thread G. Allegri
> > Good to know. I think using qgis-python requires linking (importing) code > to be GPL. I think the GPL code is mandatory for the "bridge", eventually. Not all the underlying code requires to be GPL. Am I wrong? giovanni 2012/3/26 arunthe...@gmail.com > Hello all, > > On Mon, Mar 26, 2012

Re: [Qgis-developer] Directions needed for GSOC Proposal

2012-03-26 Thread arunthe...@gmail.com
Hello all, On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Victor Olaya wrote: > > > If the work to do is based on SEXTANTE, then I am definitely > available, and really willing to do it :-) > > Thank you all. So, I think finally I have got my answer :) /me goes to write his proposal -- Regards Arunmozhi Tw

Re: [Qgis-developer] Directions needed for GSOC Proposal

2012-03-26 Thread Victor Olaya
>> I'm available, even though there may be more effective mentors for >> this. I do not know if he's available, but in case you choose >> sextante, Victor seems the natural choice. If the work to do is based on SEXTANTE, then I am definitely available, and really willing to do it :-) Regards

Re: [Qgis-developer] Directions needed for GSOC Proposal

2012-03-26 Thread Anne Ghisla
On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 08:54:22 +0200 Paolo Cavallini wrote: > Il 25/03/2012 13:21, Anne Ghisla ha scritto: > > > I would add: > > - who is available to mentor it full time? > > I'm available, even though there may be more effective mentors for > this. I do not know if he's available, but in case

Re: [Qgis-developer] Directions needed for GSOC Proposal

2012-03-26 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 25/03/2012 23:53, Victor Olaya ha scritto: > However, I selected MIT for the Java SEXTANTE code to allow for > integration in any kind of software. Since this Python version is just > developed to work with QGIS, GPL does not sound bad to me, in case the > MIT license is an issue. Good to know

Re: [Qgis-developer] Directions needed for GSOC Proposal

2012-03-25 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 25/03/2012 13:21, Anne Ghisla ha scritto: > I would add: > - who is available to mentor it full time? I'm available, even though there may be more effective mentors for this. I do not know if he's available, but in case you choose sextante, Victor seems the natural choice. All the best. -- P

Re: [Qgis-developer] Directions needed for GSOC Proposal

2012-03-25 Thread Victor Olaya
>> I would vote for the Framework. About deciding which of the two, I think >> sextante >> should be more mature, therefore a better candidate, so: >> - please Victor share your feelings about that >> - what is the license of sextante? I had thought of a MIT license, but I have included some GPLe

RE: [Qgis-developer] Directions needed for GSOC Proposal

2012-03-25 Thread Alister Hood
> Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 23:20:34 +0530 > From: "arunthe...@gmail.com" > Subject: [Qgis-developer] Directions needed for GSOC Proposal > To: qgis-developer > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hello all, >

Re: [Qgis-developer] Directions needed for GSOC Proposal

2012-03-25 Thread Tim Sutton
Hi On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 7:57 PM, Paolo Cavallini wrote: > Il 24/03/2012 18:50, arunthe...@gmail.com ha scritto: > >> Which one is going to be adopted? And is the one that will be adopted ready >> to take >> in a GSOC student and provide mentoring? While I have been  a self-learner >> for the

Re: [Qgis-developer] Directions needed for GSOC Proposal

2012-03-25 Thread Anne Ghisla
On Sat, 24 Mar 2012 18:57:49 +0100 Paolo Cavallini wrote: > Il 24/03/2012 18:50, arunthe...@gmail.com ha scritto: > > > Which one is going to be adopted? And is the one that will be > > adopted ready to take in a GSOC student and provide mentoring? > > While I have been a self-learner for the m

Re: [Qgis-developer] Directions needed for GSOC Proposal

2012-03-24 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 24/03/2012 18:50, arunthe...@gmail.com ha scritto: > Which one is going to be adopted? And is the one that will be adopted ready > to take > in a GSOC student and provide mentoring? While I have been a self-learner > for the > most part, its still a serious thing when we talk about code goin

[Qgis-developer] Directions needed for GSOC Proposal

2012-03-24 Thread arunthe...@gmail.com
Hello all, There have been prevoius discussions about this GSOC thing. Adding analytical power to the software can be the best thing that can be done to QGIS. Initially I was of the idea of porting fTools to C++, but then realized the processing framework to be a better option. Now that there are