Re: [Qgis-developer] Future of OpenLayers plugin - time to deprecate?

2016-06-16 Thread Pirmin Kalberer
Hi Tim, Am Donnerstag, 16. Juni 2016, 00.06:11 schrieb Tim Sutton: > Hi Pirmin > > > On 15 Jun 2016, at 18:58, Pirmin Kalberer wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > Am Mittwoch, 15. Juni 2016, 08.20:13 schrieb Richard Duivenvoorde: > >> Maybe first discuss with Author (in cc)? > > > > Thanks Richard

Re: [Qgis-developer] Future of OpenLayers plugin - time to deprecate?

2016-06-15 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Hi all, Il 16/06/2016 00:06, Tim Sutton ha scritto: > I’m wondering what the first storm was? The OpenLayers Plugin is a great > tool for QGIS and I agree we could have approached this discussion more > sensitively - e.g. by first approaching you and Maxim and other devs > building similar tools

Re: [Qgis-developer] Future of OpenLayers plugin - time to deprecate?

2016-06-15 Thread Tim Sutton
Hi Pirmin > On 15 Jun 2016, at 18:58, Pirmin Kalberer wrote: > > Hi all, > > Am Mittwoch, 15. Juni 2016, 08.20:13 schrieb Richard Duivenvoorde: >> Maybe first discuss with Author (in cc)? > > Thanks Richard. Today was the 7th annual Swiss QGIS User meeting and > therefore > no time to answe

Re: [Qgis-developer] Future of OpenLayers plugin - time to deprecate?

2016-06-15 Thread Pirmin Kalberer
Hi all, Am Mittwoch, 15. Juni 2016, 08.20:13 schrieb Richard Duivenvoorde: > Maybe first discuss with Author (in cc)? Thanks Richard. Today was the 7th annual Swiss QGIS User meeting and therefore no time to answer to this second shit storm wave earlier. First some history for QGIS newbies: The

Re: [Qgis-developer] Future of OpenLayers plugin - time to deprecate?

2016-06-15 Thread Yves Jacolin
On Wednesday, June 15, 2016 9:51:39 Paolo Cavallini wrote: > Il 15/06/2016 09:47, Yves Jacolin ha scritto: > > Hi, > > > > On Wednesday, June 15, 2016 9:21:51 Paolo Cavallini wrote: > >> IANAL, but AFAIK the OL > > > > Sometime it is hard to follow you :) > > I was thinking about this while writ

Re: [Qgis-developer] Future of OpenLayers plugin - time to deprecate?

2016-06-15 Thread Yves Jacolin
Hi, On Wednesday, June 15, 2016 9:21:51 Paolo Cavallini wrote: > IANAL, but AFAIK the OL Sometime it is hard to follow you :) Y. ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org List info: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-devel

Re: [Qgis-developer] Future of OpenLayers plugin - time to deprecate?

2016-06-15 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 15/06/2016 09:50, Bernd Vogelgesang ha scritto: > I would propose to rename it to "Basemaps (OpenLayers replacement)". > QuickMapServices is one of the most unintuitive names for such a basic > need ... a basemap ;) Agreed; this is true of many plugins, unfortunately. I try to convince plugin

Re: [Qgis-developer] Future of OpenLayers plugin - time to deprecate?

2016-06-15 Thread Tom Chadwin
Paolo Cavallini wrote > there is an additional problem: IANAL, but AFAIK the OL plugin does not > break licence from service providers, wherear QMS plugin does. So, it is > not a simple drop-in replacement. > Integrating a native TMS driver in QGIS (generally the best option) may > make things wors

Re: [Qgis-developer] Future of OpenLayers plugin - time to deprecate?

2016-06-15 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 15/06/2016 09:47, Yves Jacolin ha scritto: > Hi, > > On Wednesday, June 15, 2016 9:21:51 Paolo Cavallini wrote: >> IANAL, but AFAIK the OL > Sometime it is hard to follow you :) I was thinking about this while writing :) So, let me explain: I Am Not A Lawyer, but As Far As I Know the OpenLayer

Re: [Qgis-developer] Future of OpenLayers plugin - time to deprecate?

2016-06-15 Thread Bernd Vogelgesang
Am 14.06.2016, 22:25 Uhr, schrieb Anita Graser : On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 9:57 PM, Nyall Dawson wrote: On 31 Dec 2015 7:33 AM, "Nyall Dawson" wrote: Hi all, The email chain below is just one example of a user who has issues with QGIS after installing the OpenLayers plugin. Stackexcha

Re: [Qgis-developer] Future of OpenLayers plugin - time to deprecate?

2016-06-15 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 15/06/2016 02:43, Mathieu Pellerin ha scritto: > +1 too, for removing openlayers and looking into putting efforts to come > up with a native TMS driver. > > Suggestion: instead of just removing openlayers from the plugin > repository, could we work with the author (if he's reachable and > willi

Re: [Qgis-developer] Future of OpenLayers plugin - time to deprecate?

2016-06-14 Thread Richard Duivenvoorde
Duh.. sorry for this reply, did not load the newer messages apparently :-( On 15-06-16 08:20, Richard Duivenvoorde wrote: > > Maybe first discuss with Author (in cc)? > > As the maintainers used to put a lot of work into the plugin. In my view > it is not very polite to retract/depricate a plug

Re: [Qgis-developer] Future of OpenLayers plugin - time to deprecate?

2016-06-14 Thread Richard Duivenvoorde
Maybe first discuss with Author (in cc)? As the maintainers used to put a lot of work into the plugin. In my view it is not very polite to retract/depricate a plugin. Best I think would be (if Pirmin and Matthias are ok with it), to temporarily depricate it, AND show with a message in the descri

Re: [Qgis-developer] Future of OpenLayers plugin - time to deprecate?

2016-06-14 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 15/06/2016 06:17, Tim Sutton ha scritto: > +1 From me too, but I do think it would be good to communicate with > Pirmin first before simply removing OpenLayers plugin (I am not sure if > he has been following this thread). Done already, waiting for reply. Thanks. -- Paolo Cavallini - www.fau

Re: [Qgis-developer] Future of OpenLayers plugin - time to deprecate?

2016-06-14 Thread Tim Sutton
Hi +1 From me too, but I do think it would be good to communicate with Pirmin first before simply removing OpenLayers plugin (I am not sure if he has been following this thread). Regards Tim > On 15 Jun 2016, at 02:43, Mathieu Pellerin wrote: > > +1 too, for removing openlayers and looking

Re: [Qgis-developer] Future of OpenLayers plugin - time to deprecate?

2016-06-14 Thread Mathieu Pellerin
+1 too, for removing openlayers and looking into putting efforts to come up with a native TMS driver. Suggestion: instead of just removing openlayers from the plugin repository, could we work with the author (if he's reachable and willing) for him to publish a new plugin update stating that a/ the

Re: [Qgis-developer] Future of OpenLayers plugin - time to deprecate?

2016-06-14 Thread Alexandre Neto
+1 on saying goodbye to openlayers plugin in favour of quickmapservices. A ter, 14/06/2016, 22:04, Paolo Cavallini escreveu: > Makes sense to me. Going to deprecate it tomorrow if nobody objects. > Thanks Nyall. > > Il 14 giugno 2016 22:25:06 CEST, Anita Graser ha > scritto: > >> >> >> On Tue,

Re: [Qgis-developer] Future of OpenLayers plugin - time to deprecate?

2016-06-14 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Makes sense to me. Going to deprecate it tomorrow if nobody objects. Thanks Nyall. Il 14 giugno 2016 22:25:06 CEST, Anita Graser ha scritto: >On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 9:57 PM, Nyall Dawson >wrote: > >> >> On 31 Dec 2015 7:33 AM, "Nyall Dawson" >wrote: >> > >> > Hi all, >> > >> > The email chain

Re: [Qgis-developer] Future of OpenLayers plugin - time to deprecate?

2016-06-14 Thread Anita Graser
On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 9:57 PM, Nyall Dawson wrote: > > On 31 Dec 2015 7:33 AM, "Nyall Dawson" wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > The email chain below is just one example of a user who has issues > > with QGIS after installing the OpenLayers plugin. Stackexchange is > > filled with similar example

Re: [Qgis-developer] Future of OpenLayers plugin - time to deprecate?

2016-06-14 Thread Nyall Dawson
On 31 Dec 2015 7:33 AM, "Nyall Dawson" wrote: > > Hi all, > > The email chain below is just one example of a user who has issues > with QGIS after installing the OpenLayers plugin. Stackexchange is > filled with similar examples (See > http://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/qgis-openlayers-

Re: [Qgis-developer] Future of OpenLayers plugin - time to deprecate?

2016-01-04 Thread Nyall Dawson
ervices" and a whole lot of stuff, including >>>> >> Bing and Google are provided. >>>> >> >>>> >> To me QMS makes "Open layers" obsolete - but it needs a bit more >>>> >> documentation on how to g

Re: [Qgis-developer] Future of OpenLayers plugin - time to deprecate?

2016-01-04 Thread Nathan Woodrow
t;Get Contributed Services" and a whole lot of stuff, > including > >>> >> Bing and Google are provided. > >>> >> > >>> >> To me QMS makes "Open layers" obsolete - but it needs a bit more > >>> >> documentatio

Re: [Qgis-developer] Future of OpenLayers plugin - time to deprecate?

2016-01-04 Thread Alexander Bruy
!! >>> >> >>> >> On principle I am against retirement, but am not aware of a strong >>> >> argument against it for Open Layers. (Something I have used and valued >>> >> for quite some time..) >>> >> H >>> >> >>> &

Re: [Qgis-developer] Future of OpenLayers plugin - time to deprecate?

2016-01-03 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 02/01/2016 00:42, Nathan Woodrow ha scritto: > I'm fine with having that kind of thing in core provided we don't breach > any terms of services, which would mean no Google unless we can find a > contact there and maybe make some kind of deal. Hi all, I agree in: * reducing duplication, and havi

Re: [Qgis-developer] Future of OpenLayers plugin - time to deprecate?

2016-01-01 Thread Nathan Woodrow
Layers. (Something I have used and > valued > >> >> for quite some time..) > >> >> H > >> >> > >> >>> Possibly add a pop-up/warning on the open layers plugin since it is > >> >>> popular - "We are in t

Re: [Qgis-developer] Future of OpenLayers plugin - time to deprecate?

2016-01-01 Thread Victor Olaya
he open layers plugin since it is >> >>> popular - "We are in the process of deprecating this plugin". >> >>> >> >>>Other than that - +1 for retirement. >> >>>Randy >> >>> >> >>>On 12/30/2015 09:42 PM,

Re: [Qgis-developer] Future of OpenLayers plugin - time to deprecate?

2016-01-01 Thread Pirmin Kalberer
> >>>> On 31 December 2015 at 13:29, Joshua Quesenberry > >>>> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> If the plugin is deprecated, what is replacing it? I find the > >>>>> plugin to be very useful. > >>>> > >>>>

Re: [Qgis-developer] Future of OpenLayers plugin - time to deprecate?

2015-12-31 Thread Randal Hale
hadwin Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 5:46 PM To: qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org Subject: Re: [Qgis-developer] Future of OpenLayers plugin - time to deprecate? I think deprecation and removal would be

Re: [Qgis-developer] Future of OpenLayers plugin - time to deprecate?

2015-12-31 Thread Mathieu Pellerin
ement. >>> >>> Randy >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 12/30/2015 09:42 PM, Nyall Dawson wrote: >>> >>>> On 31 December 2015 at 13:29, Joshua Quesenberry >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>&g

Re: [Qgis-developer] Future of OpenLayers plugin - time to deprecate?

2015-12-31 Thread Bernd Vogelgesang
-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Tom Chadwin Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 5:46 PM To: qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org Subject: Re: [Qgis-developer] Future of OpenLayers plugin - time to deprecate? I think deprecation and removal would be good, but for a tangential reason: the name

Re: [Qgis-developer] Future of OpenLayers plugin - time to deprecate?

2015-12-30 Thread Paolo Cavallini
a Quesenberry >> > wrote: >> >> If the plugin is deprecated, what is replacing it? I find the >> >> plugin to be very useful. >> > QuickMapServices. It's got numerous improvements over OpenLayers, >> > including reprojection support and not breaking t

Re: [Qgis-developer] Future of OpenLayers plugin - time to deprecate?

2015-12-30 Thread h
; >> -Original Message- > >> From: Qgis-developer > >> [mailto:qgis-developer-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Tom > >> Chadwin Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 5:46 PM To: > >> qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org Subject: Re: [Qgis-developer] > &g

Re: [Qgis-developer] Future of OpenLayers plugin - time to deprecate?

2015-12-30 Thread Randal Hale
s.osgeo.org Subject: Re: [Qgis-developer] Future of OpenLayers plugin - time to deprecate? I think deprecation and removal would be good, but for a tangential reason: the name conflicts with OpenLayers the web mapping library. A trivial reason at best, but probably irritating to many, and potenti

Re: [Qgis-developer] Future of OpenLayers plugin - time to deprecate?

2015-12-30 Thread Nyall Dawson
ser. Nyall > > -Original Message- > From: Qgis-developer [mailto:qgis-developer-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On > Behalf Of Tom Chadwin > Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 5:46 PM > To: qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org > Subject: Re: [Qgis-developer] Future of OpenLayers plugin

Re: [Qgis-developer] Future of OpenLayers plugin - time to deprecate?

2015-12-30 Thread Joshua Quesenberry
: Re: [Qgis-developer] Future of OpenLayers plugin - time to deprecate? I think deprecation and removal would be good, but for a tangential reason: the name conflicts with OpenLayers the web mapping library. A trivial reason at best, but probably irritating to many, and potentially confusing to

Re: [Qgis-developer] Future of OpenLayers plugin - time to deprecate?

2015-12-30 Thread Tom Chadwin
I think deprecation and removal would be good, but for a tangential reason: the name conflicts with OpenLayers the web mapping library. A trivial reason at best, but probably irritating to many, and potentially confusing to users. -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabbl

[Qgis-developer] Future of OpenLayers plugin - time to deprecate?

2015-12-30 Thread Nyall Dawson
Hi all, The email chain below is just one example of a user who has issues with QGIS after installing the OpenLayers plugin. Stackexchange is filled with similar examples (See http://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/qgis-openlayers-plugin). I'm wondering if it's time we discussed the future