Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-31 Thread A Huarte
very interesting!, but as Stefan says, first devs+users must define to do > > De: Geo DrinX >Para: A Huarte >CC: Larry Shaffer ; qgis-developer > >Enviado: Viernes 31 de enero de 2014 10:08 >Asunto: Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data in

Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-31 Thread Geo DrinX
o > > -- > *De:* Paolo Cavallini > *Para:* Larry Shaffer > *CC:* qgis-developer > *Enviado:* Viernes 31 de enero de 2014 7:53 > > *Asunto:* Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS > > Il 30/01/2014 18:41, Larry Shaffer ha scritto: > &

Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-31 Thread Stefan Keller
ization in plugins ... > > Best Regards > Alvaro > > > De: Paolo Cavallini > Para: Larry Shaffer > CC: qgis-developer > Enviado: Viernes 31 de enero de 2014 7:53 > > Asunto: Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS > > Il 3

Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS (Another topic: Mosaicking Aerial Photos from UAV (Drone), Georef PLY binary tins, SfM output into QGIS)

2014-01-31 Thread Noli Sicad
Hi Roberto, I think we have to separate these topics: - support for georef PLY binary tins, that begins to be the standard output from SfM Structure from Motion drone aerial video and photo low cost surveys. - SfM output into QGIS Structure from Motion - A Visual Approach http://ccwu.me/vsfm/

Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-30 Thread A Huarte
to: Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS > > >Il 30/01/2014 18:41, Larry Shaffer ha scritto: > >>> To revisit your original immediate need, does the output from Howard's >>> Hexer tool visualize what you are looking for? >> >>> https://githu

Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-30 Thread Geodrinx
Larry, > it's a mid-term goal to make LAS data > available in QGIS. and I also would insert the support for georef PLY binary tins, that begins to be the standard output from SfM Structure from Motion drone aerial video and photo low cost surveys. Roberto

Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-30 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 30/01/2014 18:41, Larry Shaffer ha scritto: >> To revisit your original immediate need, does the output from Howard's >> Hexer tool visualize what you are looking for? > >> https://github.com/hobu/hexer Hi Larry, we do not have immediate needs, it's a mid-term goal to make LAS data available

Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-30 Thread Larry Shaffer
Hi Paolo, On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Paolo Cavallini wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi all. > Lidar data in LAS format are increasingly widespread. Leaving aside all 3D > frenzy, we > would be interested in simply displaying them in QGIS, with their useful > a

Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-29 Thread Paolo Cavallini
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Il 29/01/2014 21:48, Howard Butler ha scritto: > I think the first question to answer for a QGIS point cloud capability is to > define what it will do. Is it a renderer/viewer? Product processing pipeline? > Everything? I think it is important to keep

Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-29 Thread Paolo Cavallini
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Il 30/01/2014 05:09, isenburg ha scritto: > I am *very* interested in supporting this in any way I can. > Hope to see many of you in Vienna. Glad to see my request has spurred so much interest. Let's keep on this discussion here, and see you in Vien

Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-29 Thread Geodrinx
> The OSGeo Code Sprint in Vienna would seem like the perfect > gathering to get a skeleton functionality in place as several names in this > thread are listed to show up there. I think also it need to be: an Hack-LiDAR Vienna :) +1 ___ Qgis-develope

Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-29 Thread Geodrinx
Howard, > If anyone with experience in those environments is interested in chipping > in, I'd be happy to help guide the effort. yes, I am interested :) I worked for years in LiDAR data survey and processing, and I writed a program, named LaserDrink :) that displays in realtime TerraSolid

Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-29 Thread isenburg
Hello, > Lidar data in LAS format are increasingly widespread. Leaving aside all 3D > frenzy, we > would be interested in simply displaying them in QGIS, with their useful > attributes > (classification and intensity), either with a native driver or through an > available > library. I am *very* i

Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-29 Thread Howard Butler
On Jan 29, 2014, at 1:19 PM, Stefan Keller wrote: > Hi, > > Since LIDAR data 1. has a special data structure 2. is huge and 3. > needs index, using a database with QGIS as client seems to me a > natural architectural decision. > As you may know, PostgreSQL has a pointcloud extension made by the

Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-29 Thread Stefan Keller
Hi, Since LIDAR data 1. has a special data structure 2. is huge and 3. needs index, using a database with QGIS as client seems to me a natural architectural decision. As you may know, PostgreSQL has a pointcloud extension made by the "father" of PostGIS, Paul. See e.g. my wiki notes and presentati

Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-29 Thread Paolo Cavallini
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Il 29/01/2014 19:04, Larry Shaffer ha scritto: > I contacted Howard Butler, one of the developers of PDAL, about possibly > providing > some input on questions we have in this thread, and believe he is now > subscribed to > the list. > > Howard, an

Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-29 Thread Larry Shaffer
qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org > *Enviado:* Miércoles 29 de enero de 2014 14:49 > *Asunto:* Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS > > Would LASTools add anything to the conversation? I do believe they > re-order the file (but I've not used it). > > > -

Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-29 Thread A Huarte
But then we must preprocess the data before load it in QGIS > > De: Randal Hale >Para: qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org >Enviado: Miércoles 29 de enero de 2014 14:49 >Asunto: Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS > > >Would LAST

Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-29 Thread A Huarte
A Huarte >CC: qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org >Enviado: Miércoles 29 de enero de 2014 14:25 >Asunto: Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS > > >Most lidar files are not spatially ordered so with a sequential read you >will end up reading the whole file, it's like access

Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-29 Thread Randal Hale
e quite fast. Alvaro - DE: Jean-Roc Morreale PARA: qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org ENVIADO: Miércoles 29 de enero de 2014 13:32 ASUNTO: Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS Can it performs fast enough to display hundred millions points or billions at once ? Does it leverag

Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-29 Thread Jean-Roc Morreale
rg ENVIADO: Miércoles 29 de enero de 2014 13:32 ASUNTO: Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS Can it performs fast enough to display hundred millions points or billions at once ? Does it leverage a quadtree approach ? Le 2014-01-29 12:55, A Huarte a écrit : yes, it can be implemented on renderer lev

Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-29 Thread A Huarte
I agree,  http://www.fugroviewer.com/ can be our target ? Alvaro > > De: Martin Dobias >Para: A Huarte >CC: "cavall...@faunalia.it" ; Etienne Tourigny >; qgis-developer >Enviado: Miércoles 29 de enero de 2014 14:04 >Asunto:

Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-29 Thread Martin Dobias
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 6:55 PM, A Huarte wrote: > yes, it can be implemented on renderer level (Martin Dobias propose it) or > on featureiterator level similar to current simplification classes for line > and polygons Personally I do not think we can treat lidar data like with ordinary vector la

Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-29 Thread A Huarte
lvaro > > De: Jean-Roc Morreale >Para: qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org >Enviado: Miércoles 29 de enero de 2014 13:32 >Asunto: Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS > > >Can it performs fast enough to display hundred millions points or >billi

Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-29 Thread Jean-Roc Morreale
Can it performs fast enough to display hundred millions points or billions at once ? Does it leverage a quadtree approach ? Le 2014-01-29 12:55, A Huarte a écrit : yes, it can be implemented on renderer level (Martin Dobias propose it) or on featureiterator level similar to current simplificati

Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-29 Thread A Huarte
allini >Para: A Huarte ; Etienne Tourigny > >CC: qgis-developer >Enviado: Miércoles 29 de enero de 2014 12:46 >Asunto: Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS > > >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >Hash: SHA1 > >Il 29/01/2014 12:27, A Huarte ha scritto:

Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-29 Thread Paolo Cavallini
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Il 29/01/2014 12:27, A Huarte ha scritto: > Hi Paolo, about "performance reasons" recently we spoken about this item in > other thread: > > [Qgis-developer] On the fly simplication of point layer > > In order to render so big layers as LAS files are

Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-29 Thread A Huarte
or side by distance proximity. I think interesting to continue this item. Alvaro > > De: Paolo Cavallini >Para: Etienne Tourigny >CC: qgis-developer >Enviado: Miércoles 29 de enero de 2014 11:44 >Asunto: Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-29 Thread Paolo Cavallini
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Il 29/01/2014 11:37, Etienne Tourigny ha scritto: > There was some discussion about LAS format and PDAL on the GDAL mailing list > a few > weeks ago, there is probably some interesting info there. I suppose you mean: http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/

Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-29 Thread Etienne Tourigny
There was some discussion about LAS format and PDAL on the GDAL mailing list a few weeks ago, there is probably some interesting info there. cheers Etienne On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 5:13 PM, Paolo Cavallini wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi all. > Lidar data in LAS f

Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-29 Thread Jean-Roc Morreale
Le 2014-01-29 09:07, Paolo Cavallini a écrit : Hi all, thanks for following up. Of course we need some smart way to deal with such huge amounts of points (that's why I think we need a brand new provider). libLAS and PDAL seem to overlap, and at least one developer is involved in both: does anyb

Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-29 Thread Paolo Cavallini
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Il 29/01/2014 09:01, Denis Rouzaud ha scritto: > This would probably be quite a different way of dealing with the data source. > I > suppose the idea would be to fetch all the points at once and store them in a > kd-tree. Otherwise, refreshing the ca

[Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-29 Thread Denis Rouzaud
Hi Paolo, This would probably be quite a different way of dealing with the data source. I suppose the idea would be to fetch all the points at once and store them in a kd-tree. Otherwise, refreshing the canvas would take ages to refresh. The laslib [0,1] (from lastools) is LGPL. But there i

Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-28 Thread Alexander Bruy
Hi, if I'm not wrong last year we have proposal for GSoC project with goal to add native support for LAS data to QGIS [0]. Unfortunately this project was not accepted. Maybe we can found contacts of the author of this proposal and look if he available for help? [0] https://www.google-melange.co

Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-28 Thread Paolo Cavallini
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Il 29/01/2014 02:41, Larry Shaffer ha scritto: >> Have you looked into PDAL [0][1]? It is already in OSGeo4W 32-bit, though >> apparently >> not in 64-bit yet [2][3]. On the Mac side, it is already available in the >> Homebrew >> package manager [4]

Re: [Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-28 Thread Larry Shaffer
Hi Paolo, On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Paolo Cavallini wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi all. > Lidar data in LAS format are increasingly widespread. Leaving aside all 3D > frenzy, we > would be interested in simply displaying them in QGIS, with their useful >

[Qgis-developer] Lidar data into QGIS

2014-01-28 Thread Paolo Cavallini
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all. Lidar data in LAS format are increasingly widespread. Leaving aside all 3D frenzy, we would be interested in simply displaying them in QGIS, with their useful attributes (classification and intensity), either with a native driver or through a