Re: [Qgis-developer] Remaining work to get rid of old labeling?

2012-11-18 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 03:22:59PM -0700, Larry Shaffer wrote: > >8 > About 5): Once the old engine's gui is gone, what about users who open > a project still using the old labeling? Should the app just prompt > them that there are affected layers and to re-label them using

Re: [Qgis-developer] Remaining work to get rid of old labeling?

2012-11-18 Thread Amit Kulkarni
>> Thank you for these interesting results. You are right, we first need to >> understand where the time is spent. >> Did you make sure the font settings are the same for new / old symbology in >> the comparison? I see that the buffer is enabled by default in the new >> labelling and disabled by de

Re: [Qgis-developer] Remaining work to get rid of old labeling?

2012-11-18 Thread Larry Shaffer
Hi Marco, On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 4:35 AM, Marco Hugentobler wrote: > Hi Larry > > Thank you for these interesting results. You are right, we first need to > understand where the time is spent. > Did you make sure the font settings are the same for new / old symbology in > the comparison? I see t

Re: [Qgis-developer] Remaining work to get rid of old labeling?

2012-11-18 Thread Marco Hugentobler
Hi Larry Thank you for these interesting results. You are right, we first need to understand where the time is spent. Did you make sure the font settings are the same for new / old symbology in the comparison? I see that the buffer is enabled by default in the new labelling and disabled by def

Re: [Qgis-developer] Remaining work to get rid of old labeling?

2012-11-17 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 18/11/2012 05:56, Larry Shaffer ha scritto: > Some conclusions to draw from these preliminary results: Hi Larry. Thanks for your thorough analysis. All the best. -- Paolo Cavallini - Faunalia www.faunalia.eu Full contact details at www.faunalia.eu/pc Nuovi corsi QGIS e PostGIS: http://www.fau

Re: [Qgis-developer] Remaining work to get rid of old labeling?

2012-11-17 Thread Larry Shaffer
Hi, On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Sandro Santilli wrote: > On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 12:13:18PM -0700, Larry Shaffer wrote: > >> The new engine offers complex collision >> management, while the old one does not, which will always take up more >> cpu cycles. While I don't think the new engine wil

Re: [Qgis-developer] Remaining work to get rid of old labeling?

2012-11-17 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 12:13:18PM -0700, Larry Shaffer wrote: > The new engine offers complex collision > management, while the old one does not, which will always take up more > cpu cycles. While I don't think the new engine will ever be as fast as > a simpler one, a reasonable effort should be

Re: [Qgis-developer] Remaining work to get rid of old labeling?

2012-11-17 Thread Anita Graser
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 1:51 PM, Paolo Cavallini wrote: > Il 17/11/2012 13:45, haubourg ha scritto: >> Last thing, Easy custom labeling as a 'generate arrows' function, that is >> not satisfying to me. Integrate them into labeling layer directly and have >> an option to show it would be better. (c

Re: [Qgis-developer] Remaining work to get rid of old labeling?

2012-11-17 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 17/11/2012 13:45, haubourg ha scritto: > Last thing, Easy custom labeling as a 'generate arrows' function, that is > not satisfying to me. Integrate them into labeling layer directly and have > an option to show it would be better. (change feature type from point to > line and update it if label

Re: [Qgis-developer] Remaining work to get rid of old labeling?

2012-11-17 Thread haubourg
hi Larry, labeling speed is not a blocker for 2.0... agreed. curve labeling miss options, it's true. But it also stops labeling too easily if line is not smooth enough, or is too short for label.. Sounds more like improvement than new features. I keep your idea of integrating easy custom label

Re: [Qgis-developer] Remaining work to get rid of old labeling?

2012-11-17 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 16/11/2012 20:13, Larry Shaffer ha scritto: > Obviously the new engine could be faster, but is its current > performance really a blocking issue for removing the old one? In my experience yes: there are many old PC around, and many of our users do not have the resources to upgrade. On a slow mac

Re: [Qgis-developer] Remaining work to get rid of old labeling?

2012-11-16 Thread Larry Shaffer
Hi RĂ©gis, On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 1:27 PM, haubourg wrote: > Hi Larry, > I share Andreas concerns, and am wondering how I can help funding some work > to help you. > I really think speed improvement should be explored in depth. Agreed. PAL is kinda complicated in some regards, but it would reall

Re: [Qgis-developer] Remaining work to get rid of old labeling?

2012-11-16 Thread haubourg
Hi Larry, I share Andreas concerns, and am wondering how I can help funding some work to help you. I really think speed improvement should be explored in depth. I'm also concerned in having curved label consolidated . Seeing actual roadmap, I guess it now is a feature request for 2.1. or do we

Re: [Qgis-developer] Remaining work to get rid of old labeling?

2012-11-16 Thread Larry Shaffer
Hi Andreas, On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 2:44 AM, Andreas Neumann wrote: > Hi Larry, > > Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions. I think that > http://hub.qgis.org/wiki/quantum-gis/New_Labeling_changes_and_roadmap is a > very good list to see the progress and what unimplemented ideas are

Re: [Qgis-developer] Remaining work to get rid of old labeling?

2012-11-16 Thread Andreas Neumann
Hi Larry, Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions. I think that http://hub.qgis.org/wiki/quantum-gis/New_Labeling_changes_and_roadmap is a very good list to see the progress and what unimplemented ideas are in the pipeline. I think the most important things are: * improve perfo

Re: [Qgis-developer] Remaining work to get rid of old labeling?

2012-11-14 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 14/11/2012 21:24, Larry Shaffer ha scritto: > I am not sure if any other QGIS functionality still uses the old > labeling engine. Even so, at least updating the new engine's features > to the point of removing the old engine's gui should be a priority; > while removing the old labeling engine co

Re: [Qgis-developer] Remaining work to get rid of old labeling?

2012-11-14 Thread Larry Shaffer
Hi Andreas, On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 2:28 AM, Andreas Neumann wrote: > Hi Larry, Hi all, > > At the Essen developer meeting we discussed that we want to get rid of > the double versions (labeling, symbology, diagrams - more?) > > The new diagram are now in good shape thanks to the work of Matthias

Re: [Qgis-developer] Remaining work to get rid of old labeling?

2012-11-14 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Hi Andreas. Il 14/11/2012 10:28, Andreas Neumann ha scritto: > Question to Larry and the PSC? What is the status of this work? Was > there any agreement so far between the PSC and Larry to fund his work? I'm not aware of any progress or decision on this. I think we should have an update on all the

[Qgis-developer] Remaining work to get rid of old labeling?

2012-11-14 Thread Andreas Neumann
Hi Larry, Hi all, At the Essen developer meeting we discussed that we want to get rid of the double versions (labeling, symbology, diagrams - more?) The new diagram are now in good shape thanks to the work of Matthias Kuhn and Marco Hugentobler. I now that Larry did a tremendous amount of work o