[Ql-Users] New QL Hardware

2011-03-15 Thread Tobias Fröschle
All, when listening to all this (admittedly interesting) talks about possible revival of "quasi-native" QL hardware, the following questions should be answered: "What is native QL hardware" "what did it make special 25 years ago" "what of this would we still want/need today" 1. Had a Motoro

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2011-03-15 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message , Lee Privett writes Hi, QLC2 ... wouldn't be a bad name, for a new QL based computer/device. That's a bit of a QLOAC & Dagger statement :-) Lee - Back to the QL- Dilwyn Said To clarify what I mean I'll call it "QL On A Chip or two".

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2011-03-15 Thread Dave Park
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Marcel Kilgus wrote: > Dave Park wrote: > > The catch is that the QL is much lower powered in terms of heat and > current > > demands, and these PC-type boards do not fit that power envelope - > therefore > > they can't be used embedded very easily. > > This board

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2011-03-15 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Dave Park wrote: > The catch is that the QL is much lower powered in terms of heat and current > demands, and these PC-type boards do not fit that power envelope - therefore > they can't be used embedded very easily. This board uses less than 20 Watts when idle (still less than 40 Watts in worst c

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2011-03-15 Thread Lee Privett
Wireless computer keyboards range from £9.99 to £99.9 some even with built in trackpads and rollerball (or dead mice as I like to call them. Its the form over function debate again, while nice to have a retro feel, its got to perform extremely well. For me the QL was the whole thing, the case t

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2011-03-15 Thread Dave Park
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Marcel Kilgus wrote: > Dave Park wrote: > > Indeed an FPGA implementation of an m68k chip, or emulation of an n68k on > > some other lightweight chip are the only two economically sensible > > solutions. > > Actually, the cheapest solution would be to buy something

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2011-03-15 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Dave Park wrote: > Indeed an FPGA implementation of an m68k chip, or emulation of an n68k on > some other lightweight chip are the only two economically sensible > solutions. Actually, the cheapest solution would be to buy something like this http://mini-box.de/fr/catalog/il/1261 and use a thin

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2011-03-15 Thread Mark Martin
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Dave Park wrote: > On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Dilwyn Jones > wrote: > >> Geoff Wicks wrote: >> >>> From then on the project faded from view. >>> >>> Can it be revived? I know very little about hardware, but I sense there is >>> a new interest in native hardwa

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2011-03-15 Thread Dave Park
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 12:24 PM, Geoff Wicks wrote: > Sometime between 1998 and 2004 Nasta gave a talk at a North American show > and I believe this is how Dave came into contact with him. > I never met him in person, but we became good online friends. I met him through ql-users... > I had a c

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2011-03-15 Thread Dave Park
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Dilwyn Jones wrote: > Geoff Wicks wrote: > >> From then on the project faded from view. >> >> Can it be revived? I know very little about hardware, but I sense there is >> a new interest in native hardware and some projects that people thought >> would never come n

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2011-03-15 Thread Lee Privett
That's a bit of a QLOAC & Dagger statement :-) Lee - Back to the QL- Dilwyn Said To clarify what I mean I'll call it "QL On A Chip or two". ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm

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2011-03-15 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Geoff Wicks wrote: From then on the project faded from view. Can it be revived? I know very little about hardware, but I sense there is a new interest in native hardware and some projects that people thought would never come now seem feasible. It is for you hardware specialists to determine w

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2011-03-15 Thread Geoff Wicks
-- From: "Lee Privett" Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 10:41 PM To: "Lee Privett" ; Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Yahoo Groups Also I don't know if I am giving anything away, but well whatever, there is a schematic of something called GoldFire whatever

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2011-03-15 Thread Dave Park
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 6:06 AM, Tony Firshman wrote: > gdgqler wrote, on 15/03/2011 10:30: > > >> On 15 Mar 2011, at 03:33, Dave Park wrote: >> >> >>> If the Goldfire were still possible today, it would be fantastic, but I >>> suspect the Coldfire SoC is no longer available. >>> >> >> I saw a ma

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2011-03-15 Thread Tony Firshman
gdgqler wrote, on 15/03/2011 10:30: On 15 Mar 2011, at 03:33, Dave Park wrote: If the Goldfire were still possible today, it would be fantastic, but I suspect the Coldfire SoC is no longer available. I saw a manual for the Coldfire instructions and these can be assembled by GWASS. It can

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2011-03-15 Thread gdgqler
On 15 Mar 2011, at 03:33, Dave Park wrote: > > If the Goldfire were still possible today, it would be fantastic, but I > suspect the Coldfire SoC is no longer available. I saw a manual for the Coldfire instructions and these can be assembled by GWASS. George __