Re: [Ql-Users] Newbie question follows: How to joinMinerva ROMand ToolKit II?

2013-11-21 Thread Alexandre Souza
Cool - I really had no chance to expect that you're a professional electronics manufacturer :) Well, I'm not that kind of "professional" you're thinking of. I work at home and make small runs of electronic devices for small companies which doesn't fulfill the numbers needed for a run on "pr

Re: [Ql-Users] Newbie question follows: How to join Minerva ROM and ToolKit II?

2013-11-21 Thread Peter
On 21 Nov 2013 at 12:44, Alexandre Souza wrote: > Soldering fine pitch SMD devices isn't that hard, if you have the right > equipment, or tons of patience. Tons of patience, when I did it :( > If you want I can do a video showing an easy way of soldering SMD ICs, > but I believe there are

Re: [Ql-Users] Newbie question follows: How to joinMinerva ROMand ToolKit II?

2013-11-21 Thread Alexandre Souza
Building QL-SD at home would be very hard, because of 0.5 mm pitch SMD components and a thin two layer PCB with 0.15 mm tracks. It took more than a year until someone came up, who has the skills and equipment to do it. I don't think so. I have resources to build a board like that here at hom

Re: [Ql-Users] Newbie question follows: How to join Minerva ROM and ToolKit II?

2013-11-21 Thread Peter
On 21 Nov 2013 at 15:10, Peter wrote: > Nobody else wanted to do it himself yet - for good reasons. In the German forums, I meant. How many others like you will turn up, I have no idea. Peter ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/sms

Re: [Ql-Users] Newbie question follows: How to join Minerva ROMand ToolKit II?

2013-11-21 Thread Alexandre Souza
It took a quite an amount of email and phone support, even providing complete working samples, until someone (very skilled at building hardware) successfully reproduced the QL-SD. QL-SD has a much higher difficulty level than the other projects you find at the forums. Nobody else wanted to do it h

Re: [Ql-Users] Newbie question follows: How to join Minerva ROM andToolKit II?

2013-11-21 Thread Alexandre Souza
In the German forums, I meant. How many others like you will turn up, I have no idea. Soldering fine pitch SMD devices isn't that hard, if you have the right equipment, or tons of patience. I've done lots of these jobs without the right tools, and it worked. Took longer than reasonable, but

Re: [Ql-Users] Newbie question follows: How to join Minerva ROM and ToolKit II?

2013-11-21 Thread Peter
On 21 Nov 2013 at 11:07, Alexandre Souza wrote: > > Building QL-SD at home would be very hard, because of 0.5 mm pitch SMD > > components and a thin two layer PCB with 0.15 mm tracks. It took more than > > a year until someone came up, who has the skills and equipment to do it. > > I don't th

Re: [Ql-Users] Newbie question follows: How to join Minerva ROMand ToolKit II?

2013-11-21 Thread Peter
On 21 Nov 2013 at 12:34, Alexandre Souza wrote: > Peter, I don't want to be disrespectful, but I can't see problems in > soldering fine-pitch SMD devices. Of course the board will have to be made > in a professional setup (ever tried OSS and other chinese low-volume > suppliers? They make q

Re: [Ql-Users] Newbie question follows: How to join Minerva ROMand ToolKit II?

2013-11-21 Thread Peter
Hi Alexandre, > > It might be of relevance for you that the first QL-SD devices are being > > built here in Germany while we write. QL-SD provides an SDHC card > > interface for the QL, combined with the Minerva OS in EPROM. The QL-SD > > design was given to the QL community for free, so it's not

Re: [Ql-Users] Newbie question follows: How to join Minerva ROMand ToolKit II?

2013-11-21 Thread Alexandre Souza
Morning Peter, All! Basically, you can have Minerva in the first 48 KB and TK2 in the following 16 KB. Resulting in a 64 KB binary stored in EPROM. However, the Minerva binary has to be "padded" up to exact 48 KB length, so TK2 is properly aligned. Please note that you need a ROM version for

Re: [Ql-Users] Newbie question follows: How to join Minerva ROM and ToolKit II?

2013-11-21 Thread Peter
Hi Alexandre, > I've seen around the net photos of internal ROMs of Minerva AND > ToolKitII. How do I join both codes? Is that a matter of just concatenating > files or there is something I should learn? Basically, you can have Minerva in the first 48 KB and TK2 in the following 16 KB. Res