[Ql-Users] R: Toolkit II v2.31

2017-03-31 Thread d . santachiara
Hi Marcel, Also from the other Italian side - the ones living in Italy, sorry Fabrizio :-) - we would have supported the idea to keep the network code on the ROM version leaving extra code not needing the ROM timing on RAM. Still there uare sers using QL with standard interfaces who night be inter

Re: [Ql-Users] Toolkit II v2.31

2017-03-31 Thread Fabrizio Diversi
Marcel, please don't do it, your name is always a clear sign of quality software ! Making the Server (Fserve) external to the rom is a suitable solution, if possible. Fabrizio On 31/03/2017 17:13, Marcel Kilgus wrote: Peter Graf wrote: It's fairly easy to built new versions, so nobody is

Re: [Ql-Users] Toolkit II v2.31

2017-03-31 Thread Dave Park
Marcel, Please, carry on! There are always people who lack appreciation for what you're trying to do. As the changes are more than cosmetic, I do think you should change the name to TK3 or something. People have a long history and set of expectations from TK2. Your changes are very worthwhile. O

Re: [Ql-Users] Toolkit II v2.31

2017-03-31 Thread Peter Graf
Am 31.03.2017 um 17:13 schrieb Marcel Kilgus: > Peter Graf wrote: >>> It's fairly easy to built new versions, so nobody is stopping anybody >>> to make different releases. I do this for my own amusement, mostly. >> If mostly for your amusement, one more reason to give your stuff a >> different name

Re: [Ql-Users] Toolkit II v2.31

2017-03-31 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Peter Graf wrote: >> It's fairly easy to built new versions, so nobody is stopping anybody >> to make different releases. I do this for my own amusement, mostly. > If mostly for your amusement, one more reason to give your stuff a > different name. Not the traditional TK2 ROM, where major QL featur

Re: [Ql-Users] Toolkit II v2.31

2017-03-31 Thread p...@zx81.de
Yes networking is QLs every day work. > Am 31.03.2017 um 16:55 schrieb Peter Graf : > > Marcel Kilgus wrote: >> pg...@q40.de wrote: >>> The network code is an essential of the ROM version. If removed, I >>> would not call the result TK2 ROM anymore. >> >> Well, I do ;-) >> [Snip] >> >> It's fa

Re: [Ql-Users] Toolkit II v2.31

2017-03-31 Thread Peter Graf
Marcel Kilgus wrote: > pg...@q40.de wrote: >> The network code is an essential of the ROM version. If removed, I >> would not call the result TK2 ROM anymore. > > Well, I do ;-) > [Snip] > > It's fairly easy to built new versions, so nobody is stopping anybody > to make different releases. I do th

Re: [Ql-Users] Toolkit II v2.31

2017-03-31 Thread Jiri Dolezal
Thanks for the feedback. Are there people badly missing the network code in the new TK2, i.e. is this still a thing? Very. That's why I didn't try the new TK2. I use networking often. On the other hand, I have Minerva ROM, and trying to avoid using of mdv_'s at all, so I don't need the extend

Re: [Ql-Users] Toolkit II v2.31

2017-03-31 Thread Tobias Fröschle
I would rather chain-load some other, non-critical commands from disk than refraining from the network server and client in ROM. But just my 2 cents. No worries. Tobias > Am 31.03.2017 um 14:03 schrieb Marcel Kilgus : > > pg...@q40.de wrote: >>> Thanks for the feedback. Are there people badly

Re: [Ql-Users] Toolkit II v2.31

2017-03-31 Thread Marcel Kilgus
pg...@q40.de wrote: >> Thanks for the feedback. Are there people badly missing the network >> code in the new TK2, i.e. is this still a thing? > > Depends on ROM or RAM. > > The network code is an essential of the ROM version. If removed, I > would not call the result TK2 ROM anymore. Well, I do ;

Re: [Ql-Users] Toolkit II v2.31

2017-03-31 Thread Rich Mellor
On 31/03/2017 12:22, pg...@q40.de wrote: On 31 Mar 2017 at 12:12, Marcel Kilgus wrote: Fabrizio Diversi wrote: if someone is wondering, Tk2 2.31 is perfectly working also in Mist (at least as far as I can see:-)) Thanks for the feedback. Are there people badly missing the network code in the

Re: [Ql-Users] Toolkit II v2.31

2017-03-31 Thread pgraf
On 31 Mar 2017 at 12:12, Marcel Kilgus wrote: > Fabrizio Diversi wrote: > > if someone is wondering, Tk2 2.31 is perfectly working also in Mist (at > > least as far as I can see:-)) > > Thanks for the feedback. Are there people badly missing the network > code in the new TK2, i.e. is this still a

Re: [Ql-Users] Toolkit II v2.31

2017-03-31 Thread Tobias Fröschle
Here. The one single reason why I would not use your new TK2 over the traditional one. My QLs and QXLs are all networked, one of them is diskless and thus depends on the network. Otherwise: very good job bringing TK2 and SMSQ/E to the same code base! Tobias > Am 31.03.2017 um 12:12 schrieb M

Re: [Ql-Users] Toolkit II v2.31

2017-03-31 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Fabrizio Diversi wrote: > if someone is wondering, Tk2 2.31 is perfectly working also in Mist (at > least as far as I can see:-)) Thanks for the feedback. Are there people badly missing the network code in the new TK2, i.e. is this still a thing? Cheers, Marcel __