Re: [Ql-Users] Reverse Engineering a QDisk floppy disk interface

2013-11-27 Thread Ralf Reköndt
No Problem. I'll take a 512k one. - Original Message - From: "Dave Park" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 8:46 PM Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Reverse Engineering a QDisk floppy disk interface Be patient :) I am just gradually gathering the components together ov

Re: [Ql-Users] Reverse Engineering a QDisk floppy disk interface

2013-11-27 Thread Rod H
No timetable, no worries. All appreciated. > Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 13:46:49 -0600 > From: d...@sinclairql.com > To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com > Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Reverse Engineering a QDisk floppy disk interface > > Be patient :) I am just gradually gathering the components to

Re: [Ql-Users] Reverse Engineering a QDisk floppy disk interface

2013-11-27 Thread Dave Park
7;t before. Dave On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Rod H wrote: > I take one also. > > > Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 12:08:39 -0600 > > From: d...@sinclairql.com > > To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com > > Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Reverse Engineering a QDisk floppy disk interface &

Re: [Ql-Users] Reverse Engineering a QDisk floppy disk interface

2013-11-27 Thread Rod H
I take one also. > Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 12:08:39 -0600 > From: d...@sinclairql.com > To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com > Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Reverse Engineering a QDisk floppy disk interface > > A small run of Sandy SuperQBoards (Issue 4) will be made available in > several m

Re: [Ql-Users] Reverse Engineering a QDisk floppy disk interface

2013-11-27 Thread Ralf Reköndt
OK, I take one. - Original Message - From: "Dave Park" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 7:08 PM Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Reverse Engineering a QDisk floppy disk interface A small run of Sandy SuperQBoards (Issue 4) will be made available in several months. They

Re: [Ql-Users] Reverse Engineering a QDisk floppy disk interface

2013-11-27 Thread Dave Park
Lenerz" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 10:41 AM > Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Reverse Engineering a QDisk floppy disk interface > > > > Hi, >> >> Is it polite to ask on this list for help on RE the QDisk Floppy &

Re: [Ql-Users] Reverse Engineering a QDisk floppy disk interface

2013-11-27 Thread Alexandre Souza
er 27, 2013 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Reverse Engineering a QDisk floppy disk interface Hi, Is it polite to ask on this list for help on RE the QDisk Floppy interface? Yes! However, whether anyone will be able to help you is another sto

Re: [Ql-Users] Reverse Engineering a QDisk floppy disk interface

2013-11-27 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
Hi, >Is it polite to ask on this list for help on RE the QDisk Floppy > interface? Yes! However, whether anyone will be able to help you is another story. Wolfgang ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm

[Ql-Users] Reverse Engineering a QDisk floppy disk interface

2013-11-27 Thread Alexandre Souza
Greetings from Brazil! Is it polite to ask on this list for help on RE the QDisk Floppy interface? http://tabalabs.com.br/ql/qdisk/ Thanks Alexandre --- Enviado do meu Motorola PT550 Meu site: http://www.tabalabs.com.br ___ QL-Users

[Ql-Users] Reverse-Engineering the Q-Disk floppy interface

2013-11-23 Thread Alexandre Souza
I disassembled the interface and scanned the board. Photos in http://tabalabs.com.br/ql/qdisk/ Maybe someone would help to reverse engineer its PAL? Or help with the schematic? Thanks :) Alexandre ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://w

Re: [ql-users] Reverse engineering

2006-01-17 Thread Norman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Well, I own every single book of the discworld series. Except the last > one which is still hardcover only. > I too have them all, plus the others (the Diggers series and Johnny ...) and I got Thud! for Christmas. > And it did remind me of it, but > these paper gav

Re: [ql-users] Reverse engineering

2006-01-16 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, James Hunkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >One caution about reverse engineering; while it may be legal to do, >it is illegal to use 'borrowed' code in other code that you might >release or resell without permission. In some cases this might also >include a method

Re: [ql-users] Reverse engineering

2006-01-16 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, James Hunkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >On Jan 16, 2006, at 4:18 AM, Tony Firshman wrote: >> ... and at what level does code become unique. >> As Marcel said, there is only _one_ way to set serial port baud >> rates on >> the QL. > >Luckily, one of the key points

Re: [ql-users] Reverse engineering

2006-01-16 Thread Ralf Reköndt
- Original Message - From: "George Gwilt" Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 6:20 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Reverse engineering > Hmmm!! Apart from spending quite a lot of time disassembling > programs I also copy quite a lot of music. Perhaps I should be behind > bars

Re: [ql-users] Reverse engineering

2006-01-16 Thread George Gwilt
On 15 Jan 2006, at 17:20, Tony Firshman wrote: >>> >>> Is this true even though the altered program is merely used >>> privately? >>> >> >> Yes (unless of course, the licence allows it). If you make any >> change to the >> program you're normally breaking the licence. >> >> Generally speaking

Re: [ql-users] Reverse engineering

2006-01-16 Thread Marcel Kilgus
James Hunkins wrote: > Luckily, one of the key points in patents is that patents can not be > done on something that is obvious. Muahahaha, that was a good one! It might be nice in theory, but in real life I'm amazed nobody has patented "intake and output of oxygen containing gas in order to produ

Re: [ql-users] Reverse engineering

2006-01-16 Thread James Hunkins
On Jan 16, 2006, at 4:18 AM, Tony Firshman wrote: > ... and at what level does code become unique. > As Marcel said, there is only _one_ way to set serial port baud > rates on > the QL. Luckily, one of the key points in patents is that patents can not be done on something that is obvious. In

Re: [ql-users] Reverse engineering

2006-01-16 Thread James Hunkins
On Jan 16, 2006, at 7:11 AM, Marcel Kilgus wrote: > >> In some cases this might also include a method of doing something >> (IE: software patents). > > Fortunately enough software patents are still an US problem only > (mostly, the EU patent office regularly tries to grant sort-of > software pate

Re: [ql-users] Reverse engineering

2006-01-16 Thread Marcel Kilgus
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Morning Marcel, > > I take it you don't read Terry Pratchett novels then ? Well, I own every single book of the discworld series. Except the last one which is still hardcover only. And it did remind me of it, but these paper gave the word "footnote" a truly new meaning.

Re: [ql-users] Reverse engineering

2006-01-16 Thread Marcel Kilgus
James Hunkins wrote: > One caution about reverse engineering; while it may be legal to do, > it is illegal to use 'borrowed' code in other code that you might > release or resell without permission. Of course, this is simple copyright stuff. This is also the reason why companies usually do "clea

Re: [ql-users] Reverse engineering

2006-01-16 Thread Tony Firshman
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 at 08:06:02, wrote: (ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) >I take it you don't read Terry Pratchett novels then ? >Lots of footnotes there too - most of them, highly amusing. Does anyone remember Martin Gardner? He came to the fore writing a mathematic puzzle column in Scientific Amer

Re: [ql-users] Reverse engineering

2006-01-16 Thread Tony Firshman
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 at 01:06:16, James Hunkins wrote: (ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) >One caution about reverse engineering; while it may be legal to do, >it is illegal to use 'borrowed' code in other code that you might >release or resell without permission. In some cases this might also >include a

Re: [ql-users] Reverse engineering

2006-01-16 Thread Norman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Marcel Kilgus wrote: > > I think I've never ever seen as many footnotes in a paper as in this > one. 398 footnotes on 79 pages, that's an average of 5 per page! > Truly amazing. > Morning Marcel, I take it you don't read Terry Pratchett novels then ? Lots of footnotes

Re: [ql-users] Reverse engineering

2006-01-15 Thread James Hunkins
One caution about reverse engineering; while it may be legal to do, it is illegal to use 'borrowed' code in other code that you might release or resell without permission. In some cases this might also include a method of doing something (IE: software patents). There have been many cases re

Re: [ql-users] Reverse engineering

2006-01-15 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Marcel Kilgus wrote: > [...] P.S.: For anybody who's interested, I found the (mainly) US view on reverse engineering expressed in the paper "The law & economics of reverse engineering", written by two professors of the University of Berkley (dated from 2001): http://socrates.berkeley.edu/~scotch/r

Re: [ql-users] Reverse engineering

2006-01-15 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Duncan Neithercut wrote: > In English law much depends on intent : In Germany most licenses are usually not worth the electrons they're stored with. There are several issues, but the main one is that the sales contract is agreed upon the time of sale, all licenses you get to see after you have bou

Re: [ql-users] Reverse engineering

2006-01-15 Thread Duncan Neithercut
reverse engineer to learn general principals of programming is not illegal as the intent is not illegal. --Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Wolfgang Lenerz Sent: 15 January 2006 15:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Reverse engineering

Re: [ql-users] Reverse engineering

2006-01-15 Thread Tony Firshman
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 at 16:50:01, Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: (ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) >On 15 Jan 2006 at 13:56, George Gwilt wrote: > >> >> On 13 Jan 2006, at 18:06, Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: >> >> > >> > (...) >> > es assembley programming a joy to do. >> >> >> >> One question that I often ponder if I

Re: [ql-users] Reverse engineering

2006-01-15 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 15 Jan 2006 at 13:56, George Gwilt wrote: > > On 13 Jan 2006, at 18:06, Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: > > > > > (...) > > es assembley programming a joy to do. > >> > >> One question that I often ponder if I disassemble a program like > >> Perfection > >> then correct all the errors or program fea

Re: [ql-users] Reverse engineering

2006-01-15 Thread George Gwilt
On 13 Jan 2006, at 18:06, Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: > > (...) > es assembley programming a joy to do. >> >> One question that I often ponder if I disassemble a program like >> Perfection >> then correct all the errors or program features, am I breaking a >> software >> licence. > Yes. > Is this

Re: [ql-users] Reverse engineering

2006-01-15 Thread George Gwilt
On 13 Jan 2006, at 13:07, Fabrizio Diversi wrote: > >> >> Ah well, I thought some people might wonder how >> these things are done, >> hope nobody got bored to death. >> > absolutely NOT !!! > I will be delighted to read, maybe in QLT an article > about how to perform "reverse engineering" in old

Re: [ql-users] Reverse engineering

2006-01-13 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Fabrizio Diversi wrote: > I will be delighted to read, maybe in QLT an article about how to > perform "reverse engineering" in old program, especially how you do > such thinks, what I mean is what program you use to monitor or > trace, or how to add more code to a program without having sources > e

Re: [ql-users] Reverse engineering

2006-01-13 Thread P Witte
Ralf Reköndt writes: > I think, you may wish to do with Perfection, whatever you want, as long as > you do not pass it to others. Unfortunately (if I have understand it > correctly), Freddy "DP" Vachha does not wish anybody to enhance the > program > (see Dylwyn's mail elsewhere here), just to bu

Re: [ql-users] Reverse engineering

2006-01-13 Thread Phoebus R. Dokos
Την Fri, 13 Jan 2006 13:06:13 -0500,ο(η) Wolfgang Lenerz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> έγραψε: > On 13 Jan 2006 at 17:51, Derek Stewart wrote: > > (...) > es assembley programming a joy to do. >> >> One question that I often ponder if I disassemble a program like >> Perfection >> then correct all the er

Re: [ql-users] Reverse engineering

2006-01-13 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 13 Jan 2006 at 17:51, Derek Stewart wrote: (...) es assembley programming a joy to do. > > One question that I often ponder if I disassemble a program like Perfection > then correct all the errors or program features, am I breaking a software > licence. Yes. Wolfgang ---

Re: [ql-users] Reverse engineering

2006-01-13 Thread Ralf Reköndt
x it. Seriously, I do not understand this behaviour, as all users (who buyed the program) would benefit from enhancements, nevertheless which kind they are. Cheers...Ralf R. - Original Message - From: "Derek Stewart" Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 6:51 PM Subject: Re: [ql-u

Re: [ql-users] Reverse engineering

2006-01-13 Thread Derek Stewart
licence. I see many Visual Basic Decompiler, which maybe could be breaking copyrights. Derek - Original Message - From: "Marcel Kilgus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Reverse engineerin

[ql-users] Reverse engineering

2006-01-13 Thread Fabrizio Diversi
> > Ah well, I thought some people might wonder how > these things are done, > hope nobody got bored to death. > absolutely NOT !!! I will be delighted to read, maybe in QLT an article about how to perform "reverse engineering" in old program, especially how you do such thinks, what I mean is wh