RE: Solaris / DoS / Broken bare LF mailers / thousands of qmail-smtpdqmail-queue procs

2000-07-25 Thread Andrew Richards
Hi All, Just to say thank you to everyone who replied to this: The replies have been very helpful and I feel have clarified the issues - it seems that 'Fixing' bare LF issues is likely to be more productive (i.e. use fixcr or fixcrio) than messing around with Solaris patches. And that's the

RE: Solaris / DoS / Broken bare LF mailers / thousands of qmail-smtpdqmail-queue procs

2000-07-25 Thread Petr Novotny
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 25 Jul 00, at 9:49, Andrew Richards wrote: For what it's worth, a reminder of using fixcr - aimed primarily at archive users who come across this message a month/year etc. ahead and want to see if this might fix similar issues for them... -

RE: Solaris / DoS / Broken bare LF mailers / thousands of qmail-smtpdqmail-queue procs

2000-07-24 Thread James Blondin
- 3. The sending IP is using a broken mailer that's generating bare LFs, and this mailer regards the resulting temporary error code generated by qmail as 'Please try again straightaway'. I'd be particularly interested to know if anyone has come across the

RE: Solaris / DoS / Broken bare LF mailers / thousands of qmail-smtpdqmail-queue procs

2000-07-24 Thread Dave Sill
"James Blondin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The question I have is, and excuse my ignorance if it's something silly: why not just accept the bare linefeeds? From what I can understand in RFC822, there's nothing wrong with bare linefeeds in the body of the messages as long as the headers have all

Re: Solaris / DoS / Broken bare LF mailers / thousands of qmail-smtpdqmail-queue procs

2000-07-24 Thread Michael T. Babcock
The 'problem' as it relates to RFCs, not to Qmail's implementation, is probably the original question. Dave Sill wrote: "James Blondin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The question I have is, and excuse my ignorance if it's something silly: why not just accept the bare linefeeds? From what I can

Re: Solaris / DoS / Broken bare LF mailers / thousands of qmail-smtpdqmail-queue procs

2000-07-24 Thread Dave Sill
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 'problem' as it relates to RFCs, not to Qmail's implementation, is probably the original question. Probably? If you don't know, why bother guessing? I answered the question I thought was asked. If the person who asked the question isn't satisfied with that answer,

RE: Solaris / DoS / Broken bare LF mailers / thousands of qmail-smtpdqmail-queue procs

2000-07-24 Thread James Blondin
Dave Sill wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 'problem' as it relates to RFCs, not to Qmail's implementation, is probably the original question. Probably? If you don't know, why bother guessing? I answered the question I thought was asked. If the person who asked the question isn't

RE: Solaris / DoS / Broken bare LF mailers / thousands of qmail-smtpdqmail-queue procs

2000-07-24 Thread Dave Sill
"James Blondin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The answer you gave was useful, Dave, but although I didn't realize it at first, my question is really relating to the RFCs more than to qmail's implementation. It's just that qmail's implementation of it led me to asking the question. In that case,

RE: Solaris / DoS / Broken bare LF mailers / thousands of qmail-smtpdqmail-queue procs

2000-07-24 Thread James Blondin
Dave Sill wrote: In that case, qmail is not strictly RFC822 compliant in rejecting messages with bare linefeeds. Apparently Dan felt that the effort necessary to allow messages to contain LF's was more trouble than it was worth--especially considered that 822bis prohibits bare LF's. This

RE: Solaris / DoS / Broken bare LF mailers / thousands of qmail-smtpdqmail-queue procs

2000-07-24 Thread Dave Sill
"James Blondin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave Sill wrote: In that case, qmail is not strictly RFC822 compliant in rejecting messages with bare linefeeds. Apparently Dan felt that the effort necessary to allow messages to contain LF's was more trouble than it was worth--especially considered

RE: Solaris / DoS / Broken bare LF mailers / thousands of qmail-smtpdqmail-queue procs

2000-07-24 Thread James Blondin
Dave Sill wrote: "James Blondin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave Sill wrote: In that case, qmail is not strictly RFC822 compliant in rejecting messages with bare linefeeds. Apparently Dan felt that the effort necessary to allow messages to contain LF's was more trouble than it was

Solaris / DoS / Broken bare LF mailers / thousands of qmail-smtpdqmail-queue procs

2000-07-23 Thread Andrew
Hi All, Going through the archives to research a problem I've "seen with my own eyes", I'd appreciate any feedback, war stories, comments from readers of this list: I'm working with a company that sometimes sees it's qmail servers take a huge hit, with very many qmail-smtpd and qmail-queue

Re: Solaris / DoS / Broken bare LF mailers / thousands of qmail-smtpdqmail-queue procs

2000-07-23 Thread Jamie Heilman
- 3. The sending IP is using a broken mailer that's generating bare LFs, and this mailer regards the resulting temporary error code generated by qmail as 'Please try again straightaway'. I'd be particularly interested to know if anyone has come across the 3rd