I have two boxes both with qmail 1.03 qmailqueue.patch.txt (for qmail-scanner.0.95) and the latest tls.patch. I was never able to get qmail-remote working on the primary box as it would crash when sending to yahoo.com. On the secondary box I have it working, except now it can't deliver to the primary box, but yahoo is fine. I want to use the secondary box as my mail gateway/virus scanner. I have tried running qmail-remote under truss (which I don't really understand), by replacing qmail-remote with: #! /bin/sh truss -o /tmp/qr.truss.$$ /var/qmail/bin/qmail-remote-original $* But this fails to run qmail-remote at all (I do get a bounce from qmail).If I don't add the tls patch it delivers just fine to the primary. I have increased the timeout in qmail-remote.c from 60 to 120, but that didn't help. I am using a self signed cert on the secondary box and a real commercial cert on the primary. Is this likely the Primary still messing up? Thanks all. All systems are: Solaris 7 gcc 2.95.3 openssl .0.9.6 ******************************** John McCoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systems Administrator Central Systems Mills College 510-430-3321 ********************************