qmail Digest 22 Sep 2000 10:00:00 -0000 Issue 1131
Topics (messages 49104 through 49225):
Re: pop3 running as...
49104 by: Petr Novotny
Syslog
49105 by: Nick Davies
49110 by: Oliver Koch
Re: qmail-pw2u
49106 by: James Raftery
49136 by: dG
49137 by: James Raftery
49143 by: dG
49145 by: James Raftery
Maildir Mailbox Format!
49107 by: Mark Lo
49109 by: wolfgang zeikat
49120 by: Stano Paska
Oversize DNS packet patch
49108 by: Mark Lo
49123 by: Frank Tegtmeyer
q: vacation message.. qmail-vacation..
49111 by: Anton PIrnat
49114 by: Anton PIrnat
49134 by: Peter Samuel
Re: How I can send messages to my ISP - NEW PROBLEM
49112 by: Anton PIrnat
49115 by: Anton PIrnat
Re: Users all of a sudden have to download all email from server???
49113 by: Anton PIrnat
49151 by: Ben Beuchler
Send a Mail
49116 by: Allama Hicham
49119 by: James Raftery
qmail + MySQL site need.
49117 by: Mark Lo
49130 by: Russell Nelson
oops.. i am sorry...
49118 by: Anton Pirnat
Re: Humorous
49121 by: Peter van Dijk
qmail/perl and attachments
49122 by: Greg Kopp
49125 by: Peter Green
49126 by: Frank Tegtmeyer
49127 by: Vince Vielhaber
dns oversize packet patch
49124 by: Mark Lo
49129 by: Russell Nelson
Re: some qmail message not being delivered to a certain smtp server. header questions
49128 by: Russell Nelson
49132 by: John W. Lemons III
"Received:" based SPAM blocking
49131 by: Michael T. Babcock
49133 by: Peter van Dijk
[OT] Achieving Time-Synch at mailserver
49135 by: martin langhoff
49138 by: James Raftery
49139 by: Peter van Dijk
49140 by: Chris Garrigues
49141 by: James Raftery
49142 by: Peter van Dijk
49144 by: Ihnen, David
49174 by: Chris Johnson
49183 by: Daniel Augusto Fernandes
49193 by: Aaron L. Meehan
49197 by: Russ Allbery
49198 by: Russ Allbery
49209 by: Tim Goodwin
advantages of maildir
49146 by: Brice Ruth
49147 by: markd.bushwire.net
49149 by: Ihnen, David
49157 by: Brice Ruth
Pop3 Timeout problems
49148 by: Jose
Translating messages
49150 by: J.J.Gallardo
49155 by: Dave Sill
49161 by: J.J.Gallardo
49165 by: Dave Sill
can't send to addresses w/ & in them.
49152 by: Duane L.
49153 by: markd.bushwire.net
49154 by: cfm.maine.com
49156 by: Peter Samuel
49166 by: Duane L.
Re: spam processing
49158 by: Dave Sill
49163 by: Michael T. Babcock
49164 by: Michael T. Babcock
Re: qmail+maildir+imap
49159 by: Dave Sill
Documentation Need for qmail work with Mysql
49160 by: Mark Lo
qmail-popup
49162 by: Allama Hicham
49200 by: E. Greer
Re: Users don't recieve mail...
49167 by: jim
49188 by: Ronny Haryanto
Completely removing qmail and reinstalling again
49168 by: Wagner R. Landgraf
unable to handle kernel paging request - and lots of more errors
49169 by: Wagner R. Landgraf
49173 by: Jamie Heilman
49186 by: Wagner R. Landgraf
49190 by: Ihnen, David
49191 by: Charles Cazabon
Documentation on how to use qmail with mysql
49170 by: Mark Lo
49192 by: Olivier M.
Please help (Resend !)
49171 by: Mark Lo
49178 by: Charles Cazabon
49182 by: dG
49189 by: Mark Lo
49195 by: Gadoury
49214 by: Frank Tegtmeyer
ISP mail server.
49172 by: Mark Lo
49180 by: wolfgang zeikat
49181 by: Peter van Dijk
49217 by: Frank Tegtmeyer
qmail-send's logging?
49175 by: Russell Nelson
49184 by: Peter van Dijk
remote smtp access
49176 by: andy
49185 by: Charles Cazabon
Site down
49177 by: Mark Lo
Mail agent for Windows (totaly off topic)
49179 by: Goran Blazic
strange problem with SMTP connection to gmx.net
49187 by: Joel Gautschi
System start-up files...
49194 by: jim
Masking of Info
49196 by: Paul Tan
spooled messages take too long to send
49199 by: Doug Balmer
Re: dotqmail scripting
49201 by: Eric Cox
49202 by: Jeff Jones
User unknown
49203 by: Aaron Goldblatt
Changing the SMTP port in qmail.
49204 by: Mike
49205 by: Peter van Dijk
Two MX records. Migrating from IMail on NT to QMail
49206 by: Deon Bredenhann
49213 by: wolfgang zeikat
Webmail utility for Qmail
49207 by: ravivr.hughes-ecomm.com
49210 by: pgracia.amira.es
49212 by: Vincent Schonau
49215 by: J.J.Gallardo
49216 by: Adrian Turcu
49221 by: Olivier M.
mini-qmail
49208 by: Oliver Koch
49211 by: Peter van Dijk
49223 by: oliver.koch.jk.uni-linz.ac.at
qmail-pop3d
49218 by: Allama Hicham
49220 by: Petr Novotny
mqueueu
49219 by: Kimberly Vher
49222 by: Petr Novotny
49224 by: Frank Tegtmeyer
MAILING LIST
49225 by: Linux
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On 20 Sep 2000, at 17:14, andy wrote:
> Is qmail-popup\qmail-pop3d supposed to run as root?
qmail-popup, yes (unless you have some single-uid setup).
qmail-pop3d, not (root never gets any mail under qmail, anyway).
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[Tom Waits]
Hi,
I'm running qmail on two machines (one slack 7.0 and one rh 6). They
are both setup identically buy on the rh machine qmail's status doesn't
goto messages. How do i get it to?
Thanks.
Nick
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On Don, 21 Sep 2000, Nick Davies wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm running qmail on two machines (one slack 7.0 and one rh 6). They
> are both setup identically buy on the rh machine qmail's status doesn't
> goto messages. How do i get it to?
Have a look into /etc/syslog.conf. If there is a line with
mail.* -/some/logfile
look for the qmail-messages in that logfile. In the line similar to
*.*;mail.none;news.none -/var/log/messages
you have to remove mail.none to get the qmail-logs into
/var/log/messages.
hih,
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"What's a summons?"
"It means summon's in trouble."
-- Rocky and Bullwinkle
On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 10:16:10PM +0000, Allama Hicham wrote:
> I'm runnig the qmail-pw2u like
> % ./qmail-pw2u alm:x:65542:1::/d1/qmail/qmail/users/alm:/sbin/sh
Try;
cd /var/qmail/users
/var/qmail/bin/qmail-pw2u < /etc/passwd > assign
The qmail-pw2u man page is worth reading :)
james
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> cd /var/qmail/users
> /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pw2u < /etc/passwd > assign
>
> The qmail-pw2u man page is worth reading :)
And it can make your head spin. I spent quite along time last night reading
the man pages for qmail-(pw2u, getpw, newu) along with several searches on
list archives. Finally figured out what I was missing and got it going. Of
course I have to fight the temptation to ask such a lame question to the
list, instead choosing to burn my brain cells. ;)
As it turns out my problem was not in converting users from /etc/passwd to
users/assign, but in forgetting to echo ./Maildir/ > .qmail.
One thing I do not fully understand is what the purpose of having the
/user/assign (include, exclude) files is, unless one is hosting for virtual
domains or multiple email addresses per user. Then again maybe that is the
purpose.
Going back to my reading :)
David
On Thu, Sep 21, 2000 at 10:41:46AM -0500, dG wrote:
> course I have to fight the temptation to ask such a lame question to the
> list, instead choosing to burn my brain cells. ;)
Waahoo! Excellent! :)
> One thing I do not fully understand is what the purpose of having the
> /user/assign (include, exclude) files is, unless one is hosting for virtual
> domains or multiple email addresses per user. Then again maybe that is the
> purpose.
That's pretty much it. In those cases it's great. If don't need to
override /etc/passwd controlled delivery you don't have much need for
it.
That said, there is a tiny gain in using it, as qmail-local will always
see if users/assign is being used. If it's not, that check is wasted. If
you have a large userbase, it could be useful if even just to replicate
/etc/passwd delivery.
That's what we do now. I use the attached makefile to try to keep
things sane.
ATB,
james
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# Makefile to manage qmail's users/assign mechanism of local delivery
# control. See README.
# James, 22nd May 2000.
default: cdb
# Make users/assign if with the passwd file or list of additional
# instructions has changed.
# qmail-pw2u replicates /etc/passwd into users/assign
# users/append is a list of extra assignments
assign: /etc/passwd append exclude
/var/qmail/bin/qmail-pw2u < /etc/passwd > assign
chgrp qmail assign
# Build users/assign into the CDB database format.
cdb: assign
/usr/local/bin/assign-lint ./assign
/var/qmail/bin/qmail-newu
chgrp qmail cdb
> That's pretty much it.
Great, and it only took me 3 hours to figure that out :)
If users/assign exists, will qmail-local start to use it automagically?
Thanks for that Makefile, I did not realize that Makefiles don't have to be
used with complex programs. Another book to add to the library.
Thanks,
David
On Thu, Sep 21, 2000 at 11:46:24AM -0500, dG wrote:
> Great, and it only took me 3 hours to figure that out :)
*G*
> If users/assign exists, will qmail-local start to use it automagically?
Not quite. qmail-local actually uses users/cdb, which is the hashed
database that the qmail-newu program makes from users/assign. If you
don't use qmail-newu qmail-local won't see that you've either created
the cdb or modified it.
> Thanks for that Makefile, I did not realize that Makefiles don't have to be
> used with complex programs. Another book to add to the library.
If you have a situation where an output file is remade by some process
which needs to be done if a set of input files have been modified, you
most likely have a case for using make.
ATB,
james
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Hi,
Can netscape messanger and outlook
express automatically recongize the maildir mailbox format.??
Thank you
Mark Lo
|
the email clients Netscape Messenger and Outlook Express dont need to
recognize the maildir format, cause they dont have anything to do with it.
to fetch mail, these clients contact a POP3 server program or an IMAP
server program on your incoming mail server, and those programs "present"
them the mail in a format they understand.
to send mail, these clients contact the SMTP server program on your
outgoing mail server, and that has nothing to do with Maildir / Mailbox.
both netscape and outlook express can cooperate with a qmail mail server
that uses Maildir format.
wolfgang
Also sprach Mark Lo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 21.09.2000:
Can netscape messanger and outlook express automatically recongize the
maildir mailbox format.??
|
Yes, IE and NM connects via pop3 and on the server
activates qmail-popup, which transparently acces to Maildir or
Mailbox
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 12:38
PM
Subject: Maildir Mailbox Format!
Hi,
Can netscape messanger and outlook
express automatically recongize the maildir mailbox format.??
Thank you
Mark Lo
|
|
HI,
I would like to know how to apply the
Oversize DNS packet patch to Qmail.
Thank you
Mark lo
|
> I would like to know how to apply the Oversize DNS packet patch to Qmail.
Use the following command inside the qmail source directory:
patch < qmail-103.patch
This assumes that the patch file was saved in the qmail source directory.
For a complete description of the patch command use `man patch´.
Regards, Frank
hi there,
anyone who tried out qmail-vacation script (Peter Samuel) together with vpopmail? As
far i can see it wont use virtual
domains as vpopmail is used to do...
i got the mail.. but no vacation message, nor any failure in my logs
(var/log/messages, var/log/mail).
I tried several changes and also several .qmail-user files..
current one contains a..
--".qmail-u_name"--
| /usr/local/bin/vacation -j username
/var/qmail/vpopmail/domains/domain/
----
and i´d also put a ".vacation.msg " into
/var/qmail/vpopmail/domains/domain/u_name
and .. (just to make sure its not my old brain)
/var/qmail/vpopmail/domains/d_name/u_name/Maildir/
At the vacation makefile i´d set up qmail mailbox file at .. $$home/Maildir (i
guess its one of the probs i have..).
I assume i only have to change less at the vacation perl script, but dunno
where to serach for and what to put in, i guess i am getting older.
Maybe there is a list with all valid qmail ENV variables that helps?
I can.. cook homemade noodles and jelly (not together), repair cars and build
computers, build up networks, support our customers and lots others.. but have
less scripting perl knowledge (yet, but i am hardly working on...)
What i forgot to ask for now? Isn´t it time to leave work now? it seems to be..
regards
Anton Pirnat
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hi there,
anyone who tried out qmail-vacation script (Peter Samuel) together with vpopmail? As
far i can see it wont use virtual
domains as vpopmail is used to do...
i got the mail.. but no vacation message, nor any failure in my logs
(var/log/messages, var/log/mail).
I tried several changes and also several .qmail-user files..
current one contains a..
--".qmail-u_name"--
| /usr/local/bin/vacation -j username
/var/qmail/vpopmail/domains/domain/
----
and i´d also put a ".vacation.msg " into
/var/qmail/vpopmail/domains/domain/u_name
and .. (just to make sure its not my old brain)
/var/qmail/vpopmail/domains/d_name/u_name/Maildir/
At the vacation makefile i´d set up qmail mailbox file at .. $$home/Maildir (i
guess its one of the probs i have..).
I assume i only have to change less at the vacation perl script, but dunno
where to serach for and what to put in, i guess i am getting older.
Maybe there is a list with all valid qmail ENV variables that helps?
I can.. cook homemade noodles and jelly (not together), repair cars and build
computers, build up networks, support our customers and lots others.. but have
less scripting perl knowledge (yet, but i am hardly working on...)
What i forgot to ask for now? Isn´t it time to leave work now? it seems to be..
regards
Anton Pirnat
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On Fri, 2 Jun 2000, Anton PIrnat wrote:
> hi there,
>
> anyone who tried out qmail-vacation script (Peter Samuel) together with vpopmail? As
>far i can see it wont use virtual
> domains as vpopmail is used to do...
qmail-vacation does not support virtual domains. Patches are welcome.
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"If you kill all your unhappy customers, you'll only have happy ones left"
dunno about serialmail.. but
> > " unable to connect to 194.247.192.52 on port 25: host unreachable"
this is a typical network related error message. Caused by a broken network or
service.
Anton Pirnat
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dunno about serialmail.. but
> > " unable to connect to 194.247.192.52 on port 25: host unreachable"
this is a typical network related error message. Caused by a broken network or
service.
Anton Pirnat
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had one customer with a smiliar thing.. no matter what mail servers were
using, it seems to be a Outlook related problem. As far we could see this
behaviour only causes if someone tries not to delete the mails after
reading them through Outlook. So sometimes Outlook gets only the new one..
or even all again in one bunch. This never happened with other mail
clients.
Anton
On Thu, 13 Jul 2000, Dave Sill wrote:
> Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 09:41:08 -0400 (EDT)
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> From: Dave Sill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Users all of a sudden have to download all email from
> server???
>
> Dan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >I have salesmen that connect to my server via dialup. They are using
> >MS Outlook 97. Yes, I know its not very good, but does what we need it
> >to do.
> >
> >I have their accounts setup to not delete their email from the
> >server.
>
> How?
>
> >Now all of a sudden, they are downloading all of their e-mail, as if
> >this was the first time they ever accessed their accounts from their
> >boxes. I can't find anything fishy in log files other than their
> >messages listed as New. Anyone have any ideas as to what might be
> >happening?
>
> Insufficient data. What server are they accessing to retrieve their
> mail? qmail-pop3d? Some other POP3 daemon? An IMAP daemon?
>
> -Dave
>
On Thu, Jul 13, 2000 at 03:47:30PM +0200, Anton Pirnat wrote:
> had one customer with a smiliar thing.. no matter what mail servers
> were using, it seems to be a Outlook related problem. As far we could
> see this behaviour only causes if someone tries not to delete the
> mails after reading them through Outlook. So sometimes Outlook gets
> only the new one.. or even all again in one bunch. This never
> happened with other mail clients.
I narrowed it down to using LAST (deprecated) vs. UIDL (preferred). I
belive Outlook tries to use LAST which qmail-pop3d does not support.
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Hi everyone,
I'm a user "alm", I'm sending a mail like
%echo to: alm |/var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject
But when I read the syslog file, I find that
Sep 21 11:21:02 saladin qmail: 969535262.065338 new msg 284546
Sep 21 11:21:02 saladin qmail: 969535262.072289 info msg 284546: bytes
226 from
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> qp 7121 uid 65542
Sep 21 11:21:02 saladin qmail: 969535262.378825 starting delivery 1: msg
284546
to local [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sep 21 11:21:02 saladin qmail: 969535262.380862 status: local 1/10
remote 0/20
Sep 21 11:21:03 saladin qmail: 969535263.283817 new msg 284547
Sep 21 11:21:03 saladin qmail: 969535263.285761 info msg 284547: bytes
333 from
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> qp 7129 uid 65535
Sep 21 11:21:03 saladin qmail: 969535263.589951 starting delivery 2: msg
284547
to local [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sep 21 11:21:03 saladin qmail: 969535263.591965 status: local 2/10
remote 0/20
Sep 21 11:21:03 saladin qmail: 969535263.592887 delivery 1: success:
did_0+1+0/q
p_7129/
Sep 21 11:21:03 saladin qmail: 969535263.643506 status: local 1/10
remote 0/20
Sep 21 11:21:03 saladin qmail: 969535263.666332 end msg 284546
Sep 21 11:21:03 saladin qmail: 969535263.733224 delivery 2: failure:
This_messag
e_is_looping:_it_already_has_my_Delivered-To_line._(#5.4.6)/
Sep 21 11:21:03 saladin qmail: 969535263.825974 status: local 0/10
remote 0/20
Sep 21 11:21:04 saladin qmail: 969535264.126290 bounce msg 284547 qp
7138
Sep 21 11:21:04 saladin qmail: 969535264.161001 end msg 284547
Sep 21 11:21:04 saladin qmail: 969535264.321734 new msg 284546
Sep 21 11:21:04 saladin qmail: 969535264.323660 info msg 284546: bytes
924 from
<> qp 7138 uid 65541
Sep 21 11:21:04 saladin qmail: 969535264.498601 starting delivery 3: msg
284546
to local [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sep 21 11:21:04 saladin qmail: 969535264.500616 status: local 1/10
remote 0/20
I don't know what that qmail send message two times and what that's mean
"This_message_is_looping:_it_already_has_my_Delivered-To_line._(#5.4.6)/"
and I don't find any mail in Maildir directory.
Thanks for you
Allama,
On Thu, Sep 21, 2000 at 12:01:06AM +0000, Allama Hicham wrote:
> I'm a user "alm", I'm sending a mail like
> %echo to: alm |/var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject
> But when I read the syslog file, I find that
> "This_message_is_looping:_it_already_has_my_Delivered-To_line._(#5.4.6)/"
It means that for some reason qmail is delivering the message to user
'alm' and then re-delivering to the user 'alm'.
Does ~alm/.qmail exist? Does it perhaps have an instruction to forward
messages to 'alm' ?
james
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Hi,
Is there any docmentations or web site
exists to teach people how to use Mysql + qmail??
Thank you
Mark
|
Mark Lo writes:
> Hi,
>
> Is there any docmentations or web site exists to teach people
> how to use Mysql + qmail??
See http://www.qmail.org:
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look up users in a mysql database. Iain Patterson has
improved on <a href="http://iain.cx/unix/qmail/mysql.php">MySQL +
QMAIL</a>.
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i am sorry..
my email client crashed and i had to set up a new one asap.
But did copy the "outgoing" folder into the "output" one by mistake..
i am sorry for this .. :((
Anton Pirnat
On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 07:58:38PM +0200, Felix von Leitner wrote:
[snip]
> Felix
>
> PS: Outlook users, please read
> http://www2.merton.ox.ac.uk/~rejs/outlook.html
In which you should read '75' as '72'. 72 is the globally accepted
standard.
Another outlook helper:
http://www.okinfoweb.com/moe/bugs/bugs_047.htm
> or
> http://learn.to/quote (German only, unfortunately)
http://leerquoten.nijntje.net/ is a Dutch version with probably just
about the same content :)
And ofcourse: http://rfc1855.x42.com/
Greetz, Peter.
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This may be a bit off-topic (only a little), so forgive the intrusion.
A co-worker is trying to write a perl script to send a mail message with an
attachment included. I have looked at varius perl modules available at
www.cpan.org, but the only one listed that has the ability to add
attachments doesn't work with qmail. Apparently qmail will send multi-line
responses, which would necessitate a complete re-write of the module.
Unfortunately, we don't have that kind of time.
Can someone point me in a direction to help him out? None of us are SMTP
gurus. Has anyone done this before and could possibly give me a few ideas to
pass along?
Greg
(Note: it's been mentioned here before, please do NOT reply to a post with
a totally different subject. It's rude.)
also sprach gkopp:
> This may be a bit off-topic (only a little), so forgive the intrusion.
>
> A co-worker is trying to write a perl script to send a mail message with an
> attachment included. I have looked at varius perl modules available at
> www.cpan.org, but the only one listed that has the ability to add
> attachments doesn't work with qmail. Apparently qmail will send multi-line
> responses, which would necessitate a complete re-write of the module.
> Unfortunately, we don't have that kind of time.
perl -MCPAN -e 'install MIME::Entity'
man MIME::Entity
Works for me (with qmail, even)!
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> Can someone point me in a direction to help him out? None of us are SMTP
> gurus. Has anyone done this before and could possibly give me a few ideas to
> pass along?
There are modules that can assemble a complete MIME message (I just cannot
look for them). For sending you may use ANY SMTP server if you use
Net::SMTP.
I find it rather annoying that most of the modules assume that the
envelope recipients are to be extracted from the various headers. That's
why I almost always use Net::SMTP.
Regards, Frank
On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, Greg Kopp wrote:
> This may be a bit off-topic (only a little), so forgive the intrusion.
>
> A co-worker is trying to write a perl script to send a mail message with an
> attachment included. I have looked at varius perl modules available at
> www.cpan.org, but the only one listed that has the ability to add
> attachments doesn't work with qmail. Apparently qmail will send multi-line
> responses, which would necessitate a complete re-write of the module.
> Unfortunately, we don't have that kind of time.
>
> Can someone point me in a direction to help him out? None of us are SMTP
> gurus. Has anyone done this before and could possibly give me a few ideas to
> pass along?
RFC1521 explains it quite well. I used it this morning to put together
some BASE64 attachments. Somewhere around page 29 is probably what you're
looking for.
Vince.
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Hi,
I don't know how to apply the
oversize dns packet patch to qmail.
I have used the following command but it doesn't
work
cd /usr/local/src/qmail-1.03
patch -p0 < /tmp/patchfile
can't find file to patch at input line
3
perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip
options?
The teext leading up to this was:
_________________________
|---qmail-1.03/dns.c.103
|+++qmail-1.03/dns.c
--------------------------------------------
File to patch: I have typed "dns.c"
patching file 'dns.c'
Hunk #1 FAILED at 21.
Hunk #2 FAILED at 47.
Hunk #3 FAILED at 83.
3 out of 3 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to
dns.c.rej
I would like to know how to apply the dns patch to
qmail. and What problem am i facing.
Thank you so much for your help
Mark
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Mark Lo writes:
> Hi,
>
> I don't know how to apply the oversize dns packet patch to qmail.
That's okay. It's generally not necessary. Anybody who accidentally
creates oversize dns records recognizes their mistake when nobody can
send them mail. Even AOL stopped generating oversize records.
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John W. Lemons III writes:
> I think I've figured out their problem... They are using FTGate to retrieve
> the mail from their ISP who places all their mail in a multi-drop mailbox.
> Then the "smartpop" stuff in FTGate pulls the info from the ISPs drop box
> and distributes it to the various local mail boxes, but can't distribute
> some of the messages because the ISP is not modifying the message headers to
> append the "expected" X-Recipient header derived from the RECV TO:
> information from the envelope. Is it just me, or does this sound
> non-standard? Any RFCs on this?
Tell them that they cannot reliably do what they want unless their ISP
cooperates. These things *are* completely non-standard, but can be
made to work if the ISP stuffing the mail into the mailbox writes the
same information expected by the software downloading from the pop3
box.
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Thats exactly what I've done. I fired off an email to my friend detailing
the problem and some potential resolutions. (X-Recipient or Delivered-To
headers derived from the RCPT To: envelope field) It will be interesting to
see if they can accomplish this. I told him he would be better of running
his own mail server, but that isn't an option since they don't have the
technical people and won't hire them. Heck, they have 60+ people working
there...
-----Original Message-----
From: Russell Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 8:47 AM
To: qmail list
Subject: RE: some qmail message not being delivered to a certain smtp
server. header questions
John W. Lemons III writes:
> I think I've figured out their problem... They are using FTGate to
retrieve
> the mail from their ISP who places all their mail in a multi-drop
mailbox.
> Then the "smartpop" stuff in FTGate pulls the info from the ISPs drop box
> and distributes it to the various local mail boxes, but can't distribute
> some of the messages because the ISP is not modifying the message headers
to
> append the "expected" X-Recipient header derived from the RECV TO:
> information from the envelope. Is it just me, or does this sound
> non-standard? Any RFCs on this?
Tell them that they cannot reliably do what they want unless their ISP
cooperates. These things *are* completely non-standard, but can be
made to work if the ISP stuffing the mail into the mailbox writes the
same information expected by the software downloading from the pop3
box.
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I want to run the IP addresses from the Received: lines in a message header
through something like rblsmtpd to block spam that was relayed to me. So I
got all ready to set up my system-wide filters when I realised that DJB
didn't split rblsmtpd up into smaller pieces (joke) ... so I wondered if
anyone else thought it would be beneficial to have one program that did the
lookups against the RBL, etc., and have rblsmtpd run it to do those lookups,
as well as other programs that wanted to.
Instead of: Connection -> rblsmtpd (do lookup) -> send back brief SMTP
message.
Have: Connection -> rblsmtpd -> send back brief SMTP message.
|
rblcheck(?) (do lookup)
This way, other filters could call rblcheck (better name?) as well. Just
wondering if I've missed the boat on why this would be a bad idea, or if it
just hasn't been done yet.
Sample headers ...
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Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: (qmail 25872 invoked from network); 21 Sep 2000 11:39:27 -0000
Received: from gw2.fibrespeed.net ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
by web.fibrespeed.net with QMQP; 21 Sep 2000 11:39:27 -0000
Received: from growl.pobox.com (208.210.124.27)
by gw.fibrespeed.net with SMTP; 21 Sep 2000 11:39:27 -0000
Received: from growl.pobox.com (localhost [127.0.0.1])
by growl.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53F6014F46
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 07:38:27 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from web.yn-tobacco.com (unknown [202.98.189.88])
by growl.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9CA914D34
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 07:38:16 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from mickey (tnt6-szb.szptt.net.cn [202.104.105.8]) by
web.yn-tobacco.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange
On Thu, Sep 21, 2000 at 10:05:12AM -0400, Michael T. Babcock wrote:
[snip]
> Instead of: Connection -> rblsmtpd (do lookup) -> send back brief SMTP
> message.
> Have: Connection -> rblsmtpd -> send back brief SMTP message.
> |
> rblcheck(?) (do lookup)
>
> This way, other filters could call rblcheck (better name?) as well. Just
> wondering if I've missed the boat on why this would be a bad idea, or if it
> just hasn't been done yet.
http://freshmeat.net/projects/rblcheck/ seems to do just that :)
Greetz, Peter.
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hi,
sorry for the OT-ness. I just hope other mail-admins in here may have
had the same problem, and may be willing to share some hints with me.
I have 2 mails servers that I want to synch (and keep with the world's
clock). As one is in co-location, there's no problem at all: I'm
installing NTPd (although I have some security concerns).
The other machine has a intermittent connection, so I'm looking for a
way to synchronize on a command (instead of a daemon). I checked CPAN
for NTP and found nothing. The Net::Time module doesn't seem to help as
it's looking for a time server, and not a NTP server.
Am I too misguided? How are you guys keeping machines in synch?
martin
On Thu, Sep 21, 2000 at 11:39:32AM -0300, martin langhoff wrote:
> The other machine has a intermittent connection, so I'm looking for a
> way to synchronize on a command (instead of a daemon).
The xntp package includes ntpdate. It does just this.
> Am I too misguided? How are you guys keeping machines in synch?
xntpd, even on dial-up machines.
Regards,
james
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On Thu, Sep 21, 2000 at 03:58:45PM +0100, James Raftery wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 21, 2000 at 11:39:32AM -0300, martin langhoff wrote:
> > The other machine has a intermittent connection, so I'm looking for a
> > way to synchronize on a command (instead of a daemon).
>
> The xntp package includes ntpdate. It does just this.
>
> > Am I too misguided? How are you guys keeping machines in synch?
>
> xntpd, even on dial-up machines.
But when does xntpd send out requests then? It seems to only do so every
once in a while, and if I'm not dialed in at that time, it fails.
Greetz, Peter.
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> From: Peter van Dijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 17:12:32 +0200
>
> On Thu, Sep 21, 2000 at 03:58:45PM +0100, James Raftery wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 21, 2000 at 11:39:32AM -0300, martin langhoff wrote:
> > > The other machine has a intermittent connection, so I'm looking for a
> > > way to synchronize on a command (instead of a daemon).
> >
> > The xntp package includes ntpdate. It does just this.
> >
> > > Am I too misguided? How are you guys keeping machines in synch?
> >
> > xntpd, even on dial-up machines.
>
> But when does xntpd send out requests then? It seems to only do so every
> once in a while, and if I'm not dialed in at that time, it fails.
You can set the period in the configuration file. I believe the default is
every 64 seconds (needs to be a power of 2).
Chris
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On Thu, Sep 21, 2000 at 05:12:32PM +0200, Peter van Dijk wrote:
> But when does xntpd send out requests then? It seems to only do so every
> once in a while, and if I'm not dialed in at that time, it fails.
I don't know any more accurately than 'periodically'. My system
clock doesn't run away with itself into oblivion, so I can live without
a time sync on every dial-up. I imagine it can be made poll more often,
either with a configuration option or some magic with the xntpdc
program.
ATB,
james
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On Thu, Sep 21, 2000 at 04:38:02PM +0100, James Raftery wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 21, 2000 at 05:12:32PM +0200, Peter van Dijk wrote:
> > But when does xntpd send out requests then? It seems to only do so every
> > once in a while, and if I'm not dialed in at that time, it fails.
>
> I don't know any more accurately than 'periodically'. My system
> clock doesn't run away with itself into oblivion, so I can live without
> a time sync on every dial-up. I imagine it can be made poll more often,
> either with a configuration option or some magic with the xntpdc
> program.
minpoll minpoll
maxpoll maxpoll
These options specify the minimum and maximum polling in-
tervals for NTP messages, in seconds to the power of two.
The default range is 6 (64 s) to 10 (1,024 s). The al-
lowable range is 4 (16 s) to 17 (36.4 h) inclusive.
>From man ntp.conf on my FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE box. 1024s should do for me.
Greetz, Peter.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter van Dijk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > xntpd, even on dial-up machines.
>
> But when does xntpd send out requests then? It seems to only
> do so every
> once in a while, and if I'm not dialed in at that time, it fails.
So what? It doesn't matter if it fails. It doesn't set the clock to zero,
after all. It just doesn't set it.
If it really makes a difference to you, have the appropriate stop and start
daemon commands in the scripts that execute upon bringup/bringdown of the
dialup interface... then it runs when you're connected and doesn't when you
aren't.
David
On Thu, Sep 21, 2000 at 11:39:32AM -0300, martin langhoff wrote:
> I have 2 mails servers that I want to synch (and keep with the world's
> clock). As one is in co-location, there's no problem at all: I'm
> installing NTPd (although I have some security concerns).
>
> The other machine has a intermittent connection, so I'm looking for a
> way to synchronize on a command (instead of a daemon). I checked CPAN
> for NTP and found nothing. The Net::Time module doesn't seem to help as
> it's looking for a time server, and not a NTP server.
Try Dan's clockspeed package: http://cr.yp.to/clockspeed.html
Like everything Dan writes, it's small, simple, safe, and works well. It's
particularly well suited to keeping time on a computer with an intermittent
network connection. I use it on all my boxes (even the well connected ones).
Chris
Chris Johnson wrote:
>
> On Thu, Sep 21, 2000 at 11:39:32AM -0300, martin langhoff wrote:
> > I have 2 mails servers that I want to synch (and keep with the world's
> > clock). As one is in co-location, there's no problem at all: I'm
> > installing NTPd (although I have some security concerns).
> >
> > The other machine has a intermittent connection, so I'm looking for a
> > way to synchronize on a command (instead of a daemon). I checked CPAN
> > for NTP and found nothing. The Net::Time module doesn't seem to help as
> > it's looking for a time server, and not a NTP server.
>
> Try Dan's clockspeed package: http://cr.yp.to/clockspeed.html
>
> Like everything Dan writes, it's small, simple, safe, and works well. It's
> particularly well suited to keeping time on a computer with an intermittent
> network connection. I use it on all my boxes (even the well connected ones).
>
I've been using NTP for a long time with success! How does clockspeed
compare to NTP? Is there any tai time server?
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Quoting martin langhoff ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> The other machine has a intermittent connection, so I'm looking for a
> way to synchronize on a command (instead of a daemon). I checked CPAN
> for NTP and found nothing. The Net::Time module doesn't seem to help as
> it's looking for a time server, and not a NTP server.
You might check for the commands "rdate" or "netdate" -- both will get
the time from another machine. On our PC's with linux, we further
need to use the "clock" or "hwclock" commands to set the hardware
clock to match the system clock. We run these out of a cron job every
so often, and only run ntpd on one computer in the network.
Aaron
Peter van Dijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> But when does xntpd send out requests then? It seems to only do so every
> once in a while, and if I'm not dialed in at that time, it fails.
Most of what clock synchronization software does, though, is to figure out
how much your clock drifts naturally and then just keep adjusting for that
drift. It only needs occasional external data to correct it's idea of the
internal drift, not constant data.
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Daniel Augusto Fernandes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I've been using NTP for a long time with success! How does clockspeed
> compare to NTP? Is there any tai time server?
xntpd does two things (well, three, actually). It contacts remote time
servers periodically to correct its notion of time, and it determines the
"natural drift" of your system clock and constantly corrects for it. It
can also provide the time to remote machines that are querying it.
clockspeed separates these different functions. You first take a few
measurements to establish your clock drift, and then you run a daemon that
just adjusts for that known drift and doesn't continue to poll other time
servers and adjust. You can periodically take another measurement and see
if the drift has changed.
Personally, I've looked at the TAI library with interest but I've never
seen a good reason to move away from xntpd for time synchronization. It
works fairly well, I find it convenient to have xntpd take care of
handling changing system clock drift for me (and I have a few machines
that don't have consistent clock drift), and I like being able to use any
convenient server as a server for ntpdate in a pinch. I understand the
xntpd stratum setup and we have a fairly nice setup of multiple stratums
here.
The clockspeed approach has the advantage of working fine for a system
that's only rarely connected to the network, but to me a computer without
network connectivity is almost worthless except for playing games (for
which clock synchronization doesn't really matter).
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> Personally, I've looked at the TAI library with interest but I've never
> seen a good reason to move away from xntpd for time synchronization.
If you want your system to tick TAI, clockspeed is the only game in
town.
> I find it convenient to have xntpd take care of
> handling changing system clock drift for me (and I have a few machines
> that don't have consistent clock drift),
I have some prototype code to handle this. It's a bit kludgy, but it
seems to work well enough on 50+ machines here.
But in general you're right: xntpd is time synchronization for the
masses; clockspeed (as yet) is only for those who like playing with
their toys, or have serious religious objections to UTC.
Tim (who scores on both counts :-).
Greets!
Preface: with the mbox format, a message is appended at the end of a
LONG text file ... reading a message means finding the message at the
end of this LONG text file, right? So, with maildir, 2 important
directories exist: cur and new ... so if a new message arrives in a
maildir, it is in the "new" directory - once it is read, it is
transferred to the "cur" directory where it is stored as a separate file
...
Body: with these understandings, it would make sense to me that for a
person using IMAP, maildir would be an ideal format to use ... a message
comes into the Inbox, Messenger filters the message based on the header
into a folder on the IMAP server (also a maildir) and there it lands in
the "new" directory (right?) ... so the user hits "Next" to go to the
next unread message that Messenger knows of, Messenger takes you to the
folder it filtered the mail into and opens the new message ... ideally,
this take very, very little time ... because neither Messenger nor the
IMAP server need to read through an mbox-style text file to find the
message, its simply the first message in the "new" directory ... or not?
The Point: I'm not noticing a considerable speed increase ... moreover,
I'm not noticing there being no corrolation between the number of
messages in a folder and the time it takes to access a new message (this
ought to be constant, right ... if you have 50 message or 2500 messages
in that folder shouldn't matter, right?) ...
What's going on here that I'm missing and was I crazy to transfer my
mail systems from mbox to maildir??
Regards,
Brice Ruth
> The Point: I'm not noticing a considerable speed increase ... moreover,
How about relative load on the server?
There's a lot of factors to consider in this regard. Possibly the code
that handled v7 mailboxes scans the whole mailbox at startup and retains
pointers directly into an open file. A Maildir scanner most likely retains
the filenames which must be opened each time.
> I'm not noticing there being no corrolation between the number of
> messages in a folder and the time it takes to access a new message (this
> ought to be constant, right ... if you have 50 message or 2500 messages
> in that folder shouldn't matter, right?) ...
>
> What's going on here that I'm missing and was I crazy to transfer my
> mail systems from mbox to maildir??
What you need to do is measure the complete picture. System load, response times,
network traffic, maintenance (such as purging aged messages) etc. Also if the
profile of the mail changes, that can affect a lot of things too, for example,
what if the mailbox has a small number of very large messages, does your performance
profile change? Typically Maildir gains as the average message size grows.
But, it's very much an "it depends" situation. I'd be very surprised if you've
lost by changing over, so don't sweat it too much.
Regards.
I am perenially amused by performance complaints where there is probably no
performance problem.
You ask if there is an improvement?
How can you really know. Maybe the bottleneck is the IP transfer between
the server and you, and when it came down to it, the spooled Imap was
running faster than your data bandwidth. So, you don't see any difference.
When something goes so fast that you blink and its done, is there any
performance increase that will make it seem faster?
Me to coworker: "Why do you have all this code here? You can do it more
simply this other way."
coworker: "Its faster this way."
Me: "It runs at the most, once every hour, for less than five seconds the
slow way. How will its speed affect anything?"
coworker: "ummm... I dunno."
David
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brice Ruth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 9:11 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: advantages of maildir
>
>
> Greets!
>
> Preface: with the mbox format, a message is appended at the end of a
> LONG text file ... reading a message means finding the message at the
> end of this LONG text file, right? So, with maildir, 2 important
> directories exist: cur and new ... so if a new message arrives in a
> maildir, it is in the "new" directory - once it is read, it is
> transferred to the "cur" directory where it is stored as a
> separate file
> ...
>
> Body: with these understandings, it would make sense to me that for a
> person using IMAP, maildir would be an ideal format to use
> ... a message
> comes into the Inbox, Messenger filters the message based on
> the header
> into a folder on the IMAP server (also a maildir) and there
> it lands in
> the "new" directory (right?) ... so the user hits "Next" to go to the
> next unread message that Messenger knows of, Messenger takes
> you to the
> folder it filtered the mail into and opens the new message
> ... ideally,
> this take very, very little time ... because neither Messenger nor the
> IMAP server need to read through an mbox-style text file to find the
> message, its simply the first message in the "new" directory
> ... or not?
>
> The Point: I'm not noticing a considerable speed increase ...
> moreover,
> I'm not noticing there being no corrolation between the number of
> messages in a folder and the time it takes to access a new
> message (this
> ought to be constant, right ... if you have 50 message or
> 2500 messages
> in that folder shouldn't matter, right?) ...
>
> What's going on here that I'm missing and was I crazy to transfer my
> mail systems from mbox to maildir??
>
> Regards,
> Brice Ruth
>
Thank you for the responses!
I recognize that my measuring is limited, I guess my only questions was the one about
the new mail in a folder ... I was expecting constant access times (i.e. not based on
number of messages in the folder) but I wasn't seeing that ... as time progresses & I
transfer more users over to maildirs, I'm sure I'll notice some of the other factors
mentioned here.
Regards,
Brice Ruth
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > The Point: I'm not noticing a considerable speed increase ... moreover,
>
> How about relative load on the server?
>
> There's a lot of factors to consider in this regard. Possibly the code
> that handled v7 mailboxes scans the whole mailbox at startup and retains
> pointers directly into an open file. A Maildir scanner most likely retains
> the filenames which must be opened each time.
>
> > I'm not noticing there being no corrolation between the number of
> > messages in a folder and the time it takes to access a new message (this
> > ought to be constant, right ... if you have 50 message or 2500 messages
> > in that folder shouldn't matter, right?) ...
> >
> > What's going on here that I'm missing and was I crazy to transfer my
> > mail systems from mbox to maildir??
>
> What you need to do is measure the complete picture. System load, response times,
> network traffic, maintenance (such as purging aged messages) etc. Also if the
> profile of the mail changes, that can affect a lot of things too, for example,
> what if the mailbox has a small number of very large messages, does your performance
> profile change? Typically Maildir gains as the average message size grows.
>
> But, it's very much an "it depends" situation. I'd be very surprised if you've
> lost by changing over, so don't sweat it too much.
>
> Regards.
Lately, my server has been having problems with POP3 timeouts.
Using Qmail 1.03 and the pop3 daemon that comes with QMail.
I'm getting many calls from clients claiming that their email programs
say: POP3 Server not responding, etc.
This occurs during an email download. Some will be halfway through, or
1/4 or 90%.
What is causing these pop3 timeouts?
Thanks,
Jose de Leon
I'm traing to translate messages from my old pop-server (Netscape Mail
Server v2.02) to the new (QMail 1.03 + VPopmail 4.8.7 + QMailAdmin 0.33)
perfectly configured and running (what a big server !!). I put the old
messages of [EMAIL PROTECTED] from old-server in his box and now i
configure my netscape to read messages from the new server (user =
user1%server.dom1.com), receive the messages but all the parts (headers,
envelope and body) appears in the body, that is, there isn't Subject,
Date, From,To. Only a Subjetc (blank) and "headers, envelope and body"
all as the body. Any ideas?
"J.J.Gallardo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm traing to translate messages from my old pop-server (Netscape Mail
>Server v2.02) to the new (QMail 1.03 + VPopmail 4.8.7 + QMailAdmin 0.33)
>perfectly configured and running (what a big server !!). I put the old
>messages of [EMAIL PROTECTED] from old-server in his box
What does that mean? What command(s) did you use?
If the old mailbox was in mbox format (multiple messages in one file)
and his new mailbox is a maildir, I'd expect problems if you just used
"mv".
-Dave
Dave Sill escribió:
> "J.J.Gallardo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >I'm traing to translate messages from my old pop-server (Netscape Mail
> Server v2.02) to the new (QMail 1.03 + VPopmail 4.8.7 + QMailAdmin 0.33)
> perfectly configured and running (what a big server !!). I put the old
> messages of [EMAIL PROTECTED] from old-server in his box
>
> What does that mean? What command(s) did you use?
>
> If the old mailbox was in mbox format (multiple messages in one file) and
> his new mailbox is a maildir, I'd expect problems if you just used "mv".
No, because the NetscapeMailServer use one file per message, not mbox format.
I put the messages in:
/home/vpopmail/domains/dom1.com/user1/Maildir/new and connected via pop3 "I
can read the messages", but in wrong type like I explain it at top. Read it
carefully please.
"J.J.Gallardo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>No, because the NetscapeMailServer use one file per message, not mbox format.
>I put the messages in:
>/home/vpopmail/domains/dom1.com/user1/Maildir/new and connected via pop3 "I
>can read the messages", but in wrong type like I explain it at top.
OK, then the message files aren't in the standard format.
>Read it carefully please.
Hey, you want to figure this out without my help? Just let me know.
-Dave
One of our customers is upset because he can't email his brother at
his bigfoot address. The address has an ampersand in the username portion
eg; DNB&[EMAIL PROTECTED]
which qmail (1.03) apparently translates to "dnb^[EMAIL PROTECTED]" and
the message is returned as undeliverable. Of course this customer has to
point out that the sister with the MSN account can send to it, with no
problems. DOH!
I'm not necessarily trying to correct or work around the problem, but I
wish I had an RFC I could quote that explains why this isn't working, and
why MSN shouldn't deliver it either, except it is their nature to
ignore/bend/break established protocols and procedures.
Any insight would be greatly apreciated.
TIA
Duane L - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -
On Thu, Sep 21, 2000 at 09:43:57AM -0700, Duane L. wrote:
>
> One of our customers is upset because he can't email his brother at
> his bigfoot address. The address has an ampersand in the username portion
> eg; DNB&[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> which qmail (1.03) apparently translates to "dnb^[EMAIL PROTECTED]" and
I see no evidence of that. Can you show us the log entries?
Try:
qmail-inject 'DNB&[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
and show us your logs as a consequence.
Regards.
> the message is returned as undeliverable. Of course this customer has to
> point out that the sister with the MSN account can send to it, with no
> problems. DOH!
>
> I'm not necessarily trying to correct or work around the problem, but I
> wish I had an RFC I could quote that explains why this isn't working, and
> why MSN shouldn't deliver it either, except it is their nature to
> ignore/bend/break established protocols and procedures.
>
>
> Any insight would be greatly apreciated.
>
> TIA
> Duane L - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -
>
>
>
On Thu, Sep 21, 2000 at 09:43:57AM -0700, Duane L. wrote:
>
> One of our customers is upset because he can't email his brother at
> his bigfoot address. The address has an ampersand in the username portion
> eg; DNB&[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> which qmail (1.03) apparently translates to "dnb^[EMAIL PROTECTED]" and
> the message is returned as undeliverable. Of course this customer has to
> point out that the sister with the MSN account can send to it, with no
> problems. DOH!
I know for a fact that qmail can send to addresses with a & in them because
I once had a mailing list that sent them unquoted, backgrounded itself,
resent them because it did not complete, ad infinitem until I caught it
and fixed the quoting. In a nutshell the **shell** was the issue,
not qmail.
cfm
>
> I'm not necessarily trying to correct or work around the problem, but I
> wish I had an RFC I could quote that explains why this isn't working, and
> why MSN shouldn't deliver it either, except it is their nature to
> ignore/bend/break established protocols and procedures.
>
>
> Any insight would be greatly apreciated.
>
> TIA
> Duane L - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -
>
>
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1.207.657.5078 http://www.maine.com/
Database publishing, e-commerce, office/internet integration, Debian linux.
On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, Duane L. wrote:
>
> One of our customers is upset because he can't email his brother at
> his bigfoot address. The address has an ampersand in the username portion
> eg; DNB&[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> which qmail (1.03) apparently translates to "dnb^[EMAIL PROTECTED]" and
This looks like it is passing through the Obtuse smtpd program. That
will escape strange characters (it's own definition of strange) with
the hex code. As to where the obtuse smtpd is in the chain of mail
from your customer to his brother remains to be seen.
--
Regards
Peter
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Peter Samuel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.e-smith.org (development) http://www.e-smith.com (corporate)
Phone: +1 613 368 4398 Fax: +1 613 564 7739
e-smith, inc. 1500-150 Metcalfe St, Ottawa, ON K2P 1P1 Canada
"If you kill all your unhappy customers, you'll only have happy ones left"
Well apparently the problem is with Outlook Express (surprise surprise)
Using Elm or Pine delivers the message just fine. My apoligies for not
trying a different mail client before posting my question.
Thanks though,
Duane
On Thu, 21 Sep 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 21, 2000 at 09:43:57AM -0700, Duane L. wrote:
> >
> > One of our customers is upset because he can't email his brother at
> > his bigfoot address. The address has an ampersand in the username portion
> > eg; DNB&[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > which qmail (1.03) apparently translates to "dnb^[EMAIL PROTECTED]" and
>
> I see no evidence of that. Can you show us the log entries?
>
> Try:
>
> qmail-inject 'DNB&[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>
> and show us your logs as a consequence.
>
>
> Regards.
>
> > the message is returned as undeliverable. Of course this customer has to
> > point out that the sister with the MSN account can send to it, with no
> > problems. DOH!
> >
> > I'm not necessarily trying to correct or work around the problem, but I
> > wish I had an RFC I could quote that explains why this isn't working, and
> > why MSN shouldn't deliver it either, except it is their nature to
> > ignore/bend/break established protocols and procedures.
> >
> >
> > Any insight would be greatly apreciated.
> >
> > TIA
> > Duane L - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -
> >
> >
> >
>
Duane L - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -
wolfgang zeikat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>so we keep receiving mails from all over this lovely planet for the non
>existent users
>michellep tonyak jenniferd barbik melindaa gabriellej barbis doloresz
>melindab junem
>(exciting isn't it)
>
>i would like to process them automatically via a .qmail* file, and one
>thing i would like to extract automatically is the IP of the SMTP relay
>that sent the mail to our server.
For each user, create a ~alias/.qmail-username file containing:
|extract_relay
where "extract_relay" is a shell/awk/perl/whatever script that finds
the relay IP address and logs it.
Writing this script is beyond the scope of this list.
>i am rather new at parsing ... and PERL? is that something you wear around
>your neck?
>
>sorry if you consider this off topic, it certainly is part of my life with
>qmail *g*
It's not that I "consider" it off topic, it's that it *is* off topic.
If it was a one-liner or something I could spout off the top of my
head, I'd be happy to answer you, but it's not. You really should pick
a scripting language, learn about it, and if you still need more help,
contact a support forum for that language.
-Dave
This program will only grab the most recent (last) Received: line's IP
address.
It can be modified to do more if you like, or you could just have it dump
its output to a file listing IPs and every night run it through sort & uniq.
-x-CUT-x
#!/usr/bin/perl
$names="name1|name2|name3";
while (<>)
{
if (/Received: from/) { $received = $_; }
if (/To:.*$names/i)
{
$received =~ s/(([0-9]{1,3}\.){3}[0-9]{1,3})/$1/;
$SpamIP = $1;
# If you want to print them out ...
print "$SpamIP\n";
}
}
-x-CUT-x
> i would like to process them automatically via a .qmail* file, and one
> thing i would like to extract automatically is the IP of the SMTP relay
> that sent the mail to our server. example:
> [...]
> so i would like to extract 194.206.111.65 from the line
> Received: from unknown (HELO srvweb.IMPI-GIPSI.FR) (194.206.111.65)
This program will only grab the most recent (last) Received: line's IP
address.
It can be modified to do more if you like, or you could just have it dump
its output to a file listing IPs and every night run it through sort & uniq.
-x-CUT-x
#!/usr/bin/perl
$names="name1|name2|name3";
while (<>)
{
if (/Received: from/) { $received = $_; }
if (/To:.*$names/i)
{
$received =~ s/(([0-9]{1,3}\.){3}[0-9]{1,3})/$1/;
$SpamIP = $1;
# If you want to print them out ...
print "$SpamIP\n";
}
}
-x-CUT-x
> i would like to process them automatically via a .qmail* file, and one
> thing i would like to extract automatically is the IP of the SMTP relay
> that sent the mail to our server. example:
> [...]
> so i would like to extract 194.206.111.65 from the line
> Received: from unknown (HELO srvweb.IMPI-GIPSI.FR) (194.206.111.65)
Brice Ruth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Here's the question: I have a large hierarchy of folders stored in my
>old imap (mbox format) - what can I use to easily convert this into
>maildir format?
mbox2maildir. See www.qmail.org.
-Dave
|
Hi,
I would like to know is there any
other documnetation about how to use qmail with MySQL. I know there is a
HOWTO from qmail site, but that document is not detailed enough to get me pass
through all the stuff. Does anybody have any other good documentations on
"How to use qmail with MySQL". I am greatly appreciated.
Thank you
Mark
|
Hi everyone,
I'm using qmail and Maildir
I'm installing The checkpassword and I'm reading The Install file
When I want to simulate a succeful POP login, I have the message :
"-ERR unable to write pipe"
Thank's for response :)
Allama.
Is the pop3d daemon running, if so what user is it running as?
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of LOTFI Youssef
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 11:27 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: qmail-popup
Hi everyone,
I'm using qmail and Maildir
I'm installing The checkpassword and I'm reading The Install file
When I want to simulate a succeful POP login, I have the message :
"-ERR unable to write pipe"
Thank's for response :)
Allama.
Just a follow-up:
Hey guys, Thanks alot for the quick and effective responses!
I changed my user home dir mod to 755, it worked like a charm. Having it
world-writable was some "short-cut" idea I had so I could write/read from my
main user. I must have over looked that condition in the documentation.
I commented out that gnu-pop3d line in my inetd.conf and used qmail-pop3d
and the checkpassword instead.
One thing though, I tried to exec the /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pw2u command to
make the file users/assign. But again, it just hung up and I had to hit
Control-C to halt it. I've read the man pages on it and I know that you can
use the -u option if you want to include users with upper cases. Anyways,
it should have worked with the other lower case users. So, thanks to Cyril
Bitterich I was able to manualy edit assign to include my upper case user.
I almost forgot about the last line being a period! But it worked, I was
able to send/receive email with that upper case user.
Yes, I've been telneting into my box, but I've been using MS Outlook for
testing. I was using LWQ as one of my reference documents.
My next step is to install daemontools and ucspi-tcp as you suggested Dave.
Thank you for your help Dave, Wolfgang, and Cyril.
Jim T.
On 21-Sep-2000, jim wrote:
> I changed my user home dir mod to 755, it worked like a charm.
Not a good idea unless you don't care that other users can enter your
home directory and list the contents (and possibly read the files/dirs
in it if you set them to be world readable).
Mode 0711 (or 0710 if your system uses/needs some group setup) is
usually better.
Ronny
|
I'm getting a lot of errors in Linux system, and I
think it's due qmail.
I've installed it using supervise and tcpserver,
but I just followed a HOWTO, and I had almost no idea of what I was
doing.
So, I'm thinking about removing qmail and
reinstalling again, using a simplest howto installing guide.
Anybody can tell me how to completely qmail from
Linux system, so I can be sure that it's not there anymore?
Thank you
|
|
Hi all,
I'm getting the message "unable to handle kernel
paging request at virtual address xxxxxxxxxx......". It says the process is
qmail-remote. After this, the system hangs. Anybody knows what is going
on?
I also receive a lot of more erros in my Linux
Debian system, and I think all of them are related to qmail.
Do you have any ideas?
Thanks
|
Wagner R. Landgraf wrote:
> I'm getting the message "unable to handle kernel paging request at
> virtual address xxxxxxxxxx......". It says the process is qmail-remote.
> After this, the system hangs. Anybody knows what is going on?
Its probably your hardware, I suggest you try and check for bad RAM.
Qmail itself isn't responsible for any kernel oopses or panics.
--
Jamie Heilman http://audible.transient.net/~jamie/
"It's almost impossible to overestimate the unimportance of most things."
-John Logue
How do I try and check for bad RAM?
How do I check diskspace? Command "diskspace" doesn't work.
I have huge log files in qmail, and it is still not working, and I have
installed it one week ago. Can I delete those files? Why are they that huge?
(about 20 Mb)
Thank you
Wagner R. Landgraf
Automa Consultoria & Informática Ltda.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jamie Heilman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Wagner R. Landgraf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: unable to handle kernel paging request - and lots of more
errors
> Wagner R. Landgraf wrote:
>
> > I'm getting the message "unable to handle kernel paging request at
> > virtual address xxxxxxxxxx......". It says the process is qmail-remote.
> > After this, the system hangs. Anybody knows what is going on?
>
> Its probably your hardware, I suggest you try and check for bad RAM.
> Qmail itself isn't responsible for any kernel oopses or panics.
>
> --
> Jamie Heilman http://audible.transient.net/~jamie/
> "It's almost impossible to overestimate the unimportance of most things."
> -John Logue
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wagner R. Landgraf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 1:58 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: unable to handle kernel paging request - and lots of more
> errors
>
>
> How do I try and check for bad RAM?
Scuff your feet on the rug thoroughly, then reach directly into the computer
without touching the case and remove the memory chips. It helps if the
computer is on. If you follow this procedure, I'm pretty sure you'll have
bad ram chips in your hand that you will then need to replace.
> How do I check diskspace? Command "diskspace" doesn't work.
Depends. Do you want to know how much you have used in a particular
directory, or how much you have free overall?
> I have huge log files in qmail, and it is still not working,
It must be doing something, or it wouldn't write huge log files.
> and I have installed it one week ago.
I hate it when I install things and they keep not working when I leave them
there.
> Can I delete those files? Why are they that huge? (about 20 Mb)
I suspect that as root you have the ability to delete the files.
They are large because qmail likes to log every action, and has been doing
alot of actions. It helps alot when trying to track down what has gone
wrond. Maybe these logs contain a clue as to why it is not working.
David
PS - ROFL
Wagner R. Landgraf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How do I try and check for bad RAM?
If you're on a PC, try 'memtest86'. Other Unix system? 'memtester'. Find
them at freshmeat.net.
> How do I check diskspace? Command "diskspace" doesn't work.
df -h ; df -i
These really are basic things for a Unix sysadmin or mail admin to know.
You should perhaps get a good book on system administration and read it.
> I have huge log files in qmail, and it is still not working, and I have
> installed it one week ago. Can I delete those files? Why are they that huge?
> (about 20 Mb)
They're huge because qmail logs everything; it's handy if you need that
information later on. If you want to have an audit trail, compress the older
logs and keep them around for a while, then back them off to tape and delete
them. If you don't care, just delete them now.
Charles
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GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/
Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions.
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HI,
I would like to know is there
any other site exists that teach how to use mysql with qmail.
Thank you
mark lO
|
On Fri, Sep 22, 2000 at 03:43:12AM +0800, Mark Lo wrote:
> HI,
> I would like to know is there any other site exists that teach how to use mysql
>with qmail.
hey, once a day is enough, ok ? :) if you don't get an answer, it means
probably that nobody know, or that nobody use mysql with qmail...
Regards,
Olivier
--
_________________________________________________________________
Olivier Mueller - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - PGPkeyID: 0E84D2EA - Switzerland
Hi,
I would like to know is there any
other documnetation about how to use qmail with MySQL. I know there is a
HOWTO from qmail site, but that document is not detailed enough to get me pass
through all the stuff. Does anybody have any other good documentations on
"How to use qmail with MySQL". I am greatly appreciated.
Thank you
Mark
|
Mark Lo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I would like to know is there any other documnetation about how to use qmail
> with MySQL.
You've now posted this question four or six times. No one is going to answer
it in its present form; try presenting specific questions, showing evidence
you've already done your research.
Charles
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Charles Cazabon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/
Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
|
What is this? Something like 6 emails today asking the
same questions about qmail and MySQL? Time to start creating more mail
filters.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 2:44
PM
Subject: Please help (Resend !)
Hi,
I would like to know is there any
other documnetation about how to use qmail with MySQL. I know there is a
HOWTO from qmail site, but that document is not detailed enough to get me pass
through all the stuff. Does anybody have any other good documentations
on "How to use qmail with MySQL". I am greatly appreciated.
Thank you
Mark
|
have a look at qmail.org...one site is down...the other one doesn't contain
detail infomations.....so I need a detailed documentations.
----- Original Message -----
From: Charles Cazabon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 4:17 AM
Subject: Re: Please help (Resend !)
> Mark Lo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I would like to know is there any other documnetation about how to use
qmail
> > with MySQL.
>
> You've now posted this question four or six times. No one is going to
answer
> it in its present form; try presenting specific questions, showing
evidence
> you've already done your research.
>
> Charles
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Charles Cazabon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/
> Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions.
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
The last time I checked there were several good search engines on the
Internet; www.google.com, www.altavista.com, www.excite.com.
:)
David
> From: "Mark Lo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 05:35:58 +0800
> To: "Charles Cazabon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Please help (Resend !)
>
> have a look at qmail.org...one site is down...the other one doesn't contain
> detail infomations.....so I need a detailed documentations.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Charles Cazabon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 4:17 AM
> Subject: Re: Please help (Resend !)
>
>
>> Mark Lo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I would like to know is there any other documnetation about how to use
> qmail
>>> with MySQL.
>>
>> You've now posted this question four or six times. No one is going to
> answer
>> it in its present form; try presenting specific questions, showing
> evidence
>> you've already done your research.
>>
>> Charles
>> --
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Charles Cazabon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/
>> Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions.
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> I would like to know is there any other documnetation about how to use qmail
> with MySQL.
Hi Mark,
it will not give you more audience if you always post your question
multiple times. If nobody answers that means that nobody has an answer or
that nobody cares.
> I know there is a HOWTO from qmail
> site, but that document is not detailed enough to get me pass through
Maybe that's the key point - such a setup is a complex thing and may be
screwed up easily. If you don't have enough background to puzzle it
together yourself fast (with that HOWTO) you probably should
invest learning time to get it all done. If you do that it would be fine
to improve the HOWTO with your experience.
If you don't have enough time to experiment and develop the solution, you
should eventually look for a consultant who does (and documents!) it for
you. www.qmail.org should give enough pointers for that.
Even if you would get some recpies from the list now and get it working
without really understanding it, you would have a hard time when something
starts to fail later.
Regards, Frank
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Hi,
Does ISP mail server need to install
mail virus scanner ?? I personally don't think so, it is the job left to
home or corporate users, am I right ?? Suggestion is welcome.
Thank you
mark
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Also sprach Mark Lo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 22.09.2000:
> Does ISP mail server need to install mail virus scanner ?? I
>personally don't think so, it is the job left to home or corporate users,
>am I right ?? Suggestion is welcome.
>
i would think an ISP mail server doesn't have to run a run a virus scanner,
it sure would be a nice additional service tho,
and it might keep the mail server out of problems that may occur when
certain self-mailing virii cause heavy mail traffic by sending themselves
repeatedly ...
just my 2 cents
wolfgang
On Fri, Sep 22, 2000 at 03:46:21AM +0800, Mark Lo wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Does ISP mail server need to install mail virus scanner ?? I personally don't
>think so, it is the job left to home or corporate users, am I right ?? Suggestion is
>welcome.
The ISP should not ever tamper with your mail. Scanning and *warning*
the user is allowed.
Ofcourse, if the ISP makes it an opt-in feature, that is completely
acceptable.
Greetz, Peter
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> Does ISP mail server need to install mail virus scanner ??
You have to weight the arguments:
yes: centralized scanning allows easy update of virus signatures and
instant reaction to new problems
no: - centralized scanning uses server resources that are expensive/rare
and that are massive available at the workstations
- it makes DoS more likely to succeed (think of zip-bombs)
- it creates delays in mail transfer that may be massive (I know
of companies that had delays of up to 4 days)
I personally would not apply centralized scanning.
A compromise would be looking for several conditions in messages that
could be done fast without unpacking and scanning attachments.
Regards, Frank
Has anyone tried to speed up qmail-send by changing log[123] so that
they don't flush after every call? In theory at least, syscalls are
expensive because they have to go through a change in security level.
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On Thu, Sep 21, 2000 at 03:58:25PM -0400, Russell Nelson wrote:
> Has anyone tried to speed up qmail-send by changing log[123] so that
> they don't flush after every call? In theory at least, syscalls are
> expensive because they have to go through a change in security level.
At a cost in reliability, ofcourse.
I haven't tried. I do have my queues and logging on separate physical
disks tho :)
Greetz, Peter
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Hey All,
I am trying to set up remote mail
server for company users.
I got the pop3 stuff working fine, I can download
mail from an outside line, but I can't send any remote mail when connected
remotely, only local mail.
I've tested the server as an open relay and I
thought that anyone should be able to login to their mail account from anywhere
and get and send any mail.
Any Ideas?
I didn't include any config info because I didn't
know what would be relevant.
Thanks,
-=Andy
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andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I got the pop3 stuff working fine, I can download mail from an outside line,
> but I can't send any remote mail when connected remotely, only local mail.
You need to set up qmail for selective relaying, using tcpserver and an
appropriate rules.cdb file. Read Dave Sill's "Life with qmail" for details.
If you need to allow roaming/DHCP'd clients to relay, you'll need an
SMTP-after-POP solution, just as Bruce Guenter's relay-ctrl package. See
www.em.ca/~bruceg/ for that.
Charles
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Hi,
This site is down, it
contains informations about qmail + MySQL. The address is http://iain.cx/unix/qmail/mysql.php
. Is this site will be gone forever, or moved to somewhere
esle. ???
Thank you
mark
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Hi you all...
I must say I'm having trouble each day, because I have to think twice about
replying to the list... And usually I don't, but reply off-list... The
reason for this is that I'm using Outlook... I have to, I get paid to use
it... :-)
Now my question... Is there a "friendly" mail agent that runs under Windows?
If it's small... hey, just the better...
Thanks and sorry for disturbing you all with this... Goran
egrave - Slovenskih fantov elektronski grob
I had a strange problem with mails to gmx.net today. Every message to
gmx.net got this error:
deferral: Sorry,_I_wasn't_able_to_establish_an_SMTP_connection._(#4.4.1)/
I tried
to do kill -ALRM [pid of qmail-send here]
but I always got the same error...
but I was able to telnet the (very slow) gmx mail server (mx0.gmx.net).
I didn't knew any solutions... so I restarted my system ;(
after that I did the
kill -ALRM [pid of qmail-send here]
again... and it worked!
but 20% of the mails to gmx.net still had this deferral:
Sorry,_I_wasn't_able_to_establish_an_SMTP_connection._(#4.4.1)/
error...
I restarted again...
kill -ALRM [pid of qmail-send here]
again.. now it worked!
anybody already had the same problem? or know what the problem was?
thanks for answers!
cya
Joel
This is in regards to Dave Sill's LWQ[2.8.2]
I followed the directions, up to this point:
......Taken from your LWQ.....
Create the script using your editor or by downloading it with your web
browser, then install it into your system's init.d directory, which should
be in one of the following locations:
/etc/init.d
/sbin/init.d
/etc/rc.d/init.d
...............................
I don't have these directories in my version of linux, I'm using slackware
7.1.
I have:
qmail rc.M rc.gpm rc.inet2 rc.news
rc.0 rc.S rc.httpd rc.local rc.pcmcia
rc.4 rc.atalk rc.ibcs2 rc.local~ rc.samba
rc.6 rc.cdrom rc.inet1 rc.modules rc.serial
rc.K rc.font.sample rc.inet1~ rc.netdevice rc.sysvinit
alita:/etc/rc.d#
So I guess I just put the qmail script here: /etc/rc.d/. Maybe include it
in my rc.local file so it loads on booting-up?
And the part where you said:
.........................
Allow the local host to inject mail via SMTP:
echo '127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""' >>/etc/tcp.smtp
/usr/local/sbin/qmail cdb
.........................
If I type the last line I get:
alita:/# /usr/local/sbin/qmail cdb
bash: /usr/local/sbin/qmail: No such file or directory
I made your qmail script executable and a symbolic ln to /usr/local/sbin/,
but it doesn't seem to find it. This is probably some os error on my
part...
Any ideas?
Jim T.
Hi guys,
Is there a way to NOT show my internal email IPs and stuff, which
module must i add to filter those stuff out ??
Thks so much for your time,
Paul
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Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 15:02:58 +0800
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Hi,
I'm just setting up some scripts to do some bulk mail
I tested by sending to dougb-$[EMAIL PROTECTED] where $i goes from 1 to 2500
from host2.domain which is on the same subnet (ie very close)
Thats 2,500 emails, however, only 50 or so are delivered at a time in 40
or so minute intervals.
I really need these mails out quickly (breaking news emails etc). Can
anyone help?
I've looked at using ezmlm but I really need oracle connectivity and ProC
programming is really not something I want to learn.
Thanks
Doug
Gary Richardson wrote:
>
> Hey,
>
> I'm still having troubles with the dotqmail scripting. I can not go
>
> |scriptname
>
> as someone suggested since my script simple prints the email address the
> message is supposed to go to. Is there some way to use variables in the .qmail
> files?
>
> I want to do something like:
>
> &`scriptname`
>
> to have it forward to a specific address. Can I do this with a simple script or
> am I going to have to reinject the message instead of redirecting it?
Hmmm. this scenario brings up an interesting question. Perhaps some
of the gurus on the list can shed some light. Would something like
this work?
Mail is delivered to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
~alias/.qmail-user1 contains:
|script that writes a username into ~alias/.qmail-user2
&user2
Eric
I don't know if this will help but if you are using Perl, there
is a perl module Mail::Audit that might help you out. I was
just reading about it in the Perl Journal. The author of the
module even mentions how to reference your script in a .qmail
file. From what I read it is a powerful mail filter toolkit
that is meant to be a replacement for procmail
I haven't tried it, only read about it.
Hope that could help in some way.
Jeff
On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, Eric Cox wrote:
> Gary Richardson wrote:
> >
> > Hey,
> >
> > I'm still having troubles with the dotqmail scripting. I can not go
> >
> > |scriptname
> >
> > as someone suggested since my script simple prints the email address the
> > message is supposed to go to. Is there some way to use variables in the .qmail
> > files?
> >
> > I want to do something like:
> >
> > &`scriptname`
> >
> > to have it forward to a specific address. Can I do this with a simple script or
> > am I going to have to reinject the message instead of redirecting it?
>
> Hmmm. this scenario brings up an interesting question. Perhaps some
> of the gurus on the list can shed some light. Would something like
> this work?
>
> Mail is delivered to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> ~alias/.qmail-user1 contains:
>
> |script that writes a username into ~alias/.qmail-user2
> &user2
>
>
> Eric
>
wndrgrl.goldblatt.net greeted my arrival home after a hard day at work a
couple days ago with the sound of a clicking hard drive.
Recover some stuff as can, replace drive reinstall. first priorities: bind
qmail. bind works okay.
I re-downloaded and recompiled qmail. I was able to recover /var/qmail
from my old system, so in theory the configuration is still okay. I picked
up tcpserver and fixed that up, and I got checkpasswd running, so now I can
check my email via pop3. Except I can't receive any mail.
qmail is apparently rejecting mail incoming to the local domain, responding
with user unknown. A friend attempted to send a message to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (an account I was careful to make sure existed before
running this test). His Sendmail produced the following output:
Sep 21 21:21:11 got sendmail[4972]: VAA04970: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
ctladdr=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (0/0), delay=00:00:00,
xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=esmtp, relay=wndrgrl.goldblatt.net.
[208.190.130.82], stat=User unknown
I'm not getting anything in /var/log/messages or /var/log/syslog.
I'm unable to find a useful pointer in the logs, the FAQ, or the
archives. Pointers to any or all of these welcome, if applicable.
Linux kernel 2.2.17, Slackware 7.1. qmail-showctl produces the following
output:
qmail home directory: /var/qmail.
user-ext delimiter: -.
paternalism (in decimal): 2.
silent concurrency limit: 120.
subdirectory split: 23.
user ids: 1003, 1004, 1005, 0, 1006, 1007, 1008, 1009.
group ids: 2108, 2107.
badmailfrom: (Default.) Any MAIL FROM is allowed.
bouncefrom: (Default.) Bounce user name is MAILER-DAEMON.
bouncehost: (Default.) Bounce host name is wndrgrl.goldblatt.net.
concurrencylocal: (Default.) Local concurrency is 10.
concurrencyremote: (Default.) Remote concurrency is 20.
databytes: (Default.) SMTP DATA limit is 0 bytes.
defaultdomain: Default domain name is goldblatt.net.
defaulthost: Default host name is goldblatt.net.
doublebouncehost: (Default.) 2B recipient host: wndrgrl.goldblatt.net.
doublebounceto: (Default.) 2B recipient user: postmaster.
envnoathost: (Default.) Presumed domain name is wndrgrl.goldblatt.net.
helohost: (Default.) SMTP client HELO host name is wndrgrl.goldblatt.net
idhost: (Default.) Message-ID host name is wndrgrl.goldblatt.net.
localiphost: (Default.) Local IP address becomes wndrgrl.goldblatt.net.
locals:
Messages for localhost are delivered locally.
Messages for wndrgrl.goldblatt.net are delivered locally.
Messages for virtualhost.goldblatt.net are delivered locally.
Messages for shikky.com are delivered locally.
Messages for viquilitman.com are delivered locally.
Messages for goldblatt.net are delivered locally.
me: My name is wndrgrl.goldblatt.net.
percenthack: (Default.) The percent hack is not allowed.
plusdomain: Plus domain name is goldblatt.net.
qmqpservers: (Default.) No QMQP servers.
queuelifetime: (Default.) Message lifetime in the queue is 604800 seconds.
rcpthosts:
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at localhost.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at wndrgrl.goldblatt.net.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at virtualhost.goldblatt.net.
morercpthosts: (Default.) No effect.
morercpthosts.cdb: (Default.) No effect.
smtpgreeting: (Default.) SMTP greeting: 220 wndrgrl.goldblatt.net.
smtproutes: (Default.) No artificial SMTP routes.
timeoutconnect: (Default.) SMTP client connection timeout is 60 seconds.
timeoutremote: (Default.) SMTP client data timeout is 1200 seconds.
timeoutsmtpd: (Default.) SMTP server data timeout is 1200 seconds.
virtualdomains: (Default.) No virtual domains.
virtualdomains.hold: I have no idea what this file does.
Thanks.
ag
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Hi, I am trying to change the smtp port in qmail to
port 26. I know it sounds a little bit retarded, but I'd like to know how its
done. I am using SuSE 6.4 and qmail 1.03 ...
Thanks
NuWave
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On Fri, Sep 22, 2000 at 02:59:30AM -0300, Mike wrote:
> Hi, I am trying to change the smtp port in qmail to port 26. I know it sounds a
>little bit retarded, but I'd like to know how its done. I am using SuSE 6.4 and qmail
>1.03 ...
If you're running qmail-smtpd from inetd, your line should look
something like:
smtp stream tcp nowait .....
Replace the 'smtp' at the start of the line with '26'
If you're running qmail from tcpserver, that startup line should look
something like
/path/to/tcpserver -options 0 smtp /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd ....
Replace the 'smtp' after the '0' with '26'.
Greetz, Peter
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Hi there all
Firstly our current setup.
NT Server with Imail (I Think Ver4) running with 8 'Virtual Domains' (Yeah
right) Each one still wants an IP. MX 100 pointing to this one.
The new QMail server. MX 200 pointing to this one.
Now if I send mail to on account that only exists on QMail it is first sent
to IMail and it bounces back with not a valid user. How do I get to try the
other mail server?
OR
Should I give QMail the higher priority and tell it to forward the accounts
that does not exist to the other mail server.
The reasons is that we have about 600 mail accounts and the two must run
while we are moving the accounts and flushing the unused accounts.
Any ideas for me please.
Thanx a lot
Deon Bredenhann
Network Manager
CompuScan Information Technologies
http://www.compuscan.co.za
Also sprach Deon Bredenhann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 22.09.2000:
>OR
>
>Should I give QMail the higher priority and tell it to forward the
>accounts
>that does not exist to the other mail server.
>
to me, that sounds like the solution.
wolfgang
Dear all,
Will any one of u pls tell me the simple webmail utility available
designed specially for qmail(& not uses any database ).
Pls mention few of them.
Rgds,
RAVI.V.R
I use sqwebmail:
http://webmail.omnis.ch/omail.pl?action=about
http://www.inter7.com/sqwebmail/
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Paco Gracia
Director Técnico
Amira Sistemas
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Dear all,
>
> Will any one of u pls tell me the simple webmail utility available
> designed specially for qmail(& not uses any database ).
> Pls mention few of them.
Sqwebmail:
<URL:http://www.inter7.com/sqwebmail/>
Designed specifically for systems using _maildir_, including qmail.
Vince.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
> Dear all,
>
> Will any one of u pls tell me the simple webmail utility available
> designed specially for qmail(& not uses any database ). Pls mention
> few of them.
Test this url --> http://www.inter7.com/sqwebmail/
Totaly integrated with QMail + VPopmail
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> Will any one of u pls tell me the simple webmail utility available
> designed specially for qmail(& not uses any database ).
> Pls mention few of them.
>
> Rgds,
> RAVI.V.R
I am using oMail from:
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=3658
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On Fri, Sep 22, 2000 at 12:04:51PM +0300, Adrian Turcu wrote:
> I am using oMail from:
> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=3658
Nice to see oMail getting popular :)
If you have feature requests, fixes to submit, etc, please act
now! The work on omail-webmail will continue in the following
weeks.
I would also be interested to know if there are people
using omail-webmail with a vpopmail system, and if it is
working ok. I'm using vmailmgr (www.vmailmgr.org) on our
company servers, and don't have time to try vpopmail for
the moment.
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Hello
I tried to setup mini-qmail as described in
http://cr.yp.to/qmail/mini.html.
When testing it with the well known
echo to: me | /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject
(yes, replacing me with my local name) all I get is
qmail-inject: fatal: qq unable to read configuration (#4.3.0)
I don't know which configuration qmail-inject is unable to read,
all files in /var/qmail/control are readable and qmail-showctl does
not issue any error message.
Any hints to further reading are welcome.
tia,
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you're up to.
On Fri, Sep 22, 2000 at 10:42:24AM +0200, Oliver Koch wrote:
> I tried to setup mini-qmail as described in
> http://cr.yp.to/qmail/mini.html.
> When testing it with the well known
> echo to: me | /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject
> (yes, replacing me with my local name) all I get is
> qmail-inject: fatal: qq unable to read configuration (#4.3.0)
>
> I don't know which configuration qmail-inject is unable to read,
> all files in /var/qmail/control are readable and qmail-showctl does
> not issue any error message.
>
> Any hints to further reading are welcome.
Do you have a /var/qmail/control/qmqpservers?
Greetz, Peter
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On Fre, 22 Sep 2000, Peter van Dijk wrote:
> Do you have a /var/qmail/control/qmqpservers?
Yes. And I tried the mailservers short name as well as its FQDN.
The qmqpd runs on the mailserver.
root@mail:/var/qmail/control > ps ax
PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND
22775 pts/1 S 0:00 /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -x /etc/qmqp.cdb -u 702 -g 701 0
628 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-qmqpd
(sorry for the long line)
The /etc/qmqp.tpc allows connections from the whole subnet.
I'm not sure if I understood RFC1893 right. Does the error code
#4.3.0 mean that the problem is with the queuing server or with the
emails recipient?
Should I post the output of qmail-showctl? I don't want to waste
bandwidth and to me it seems OK.
tia,
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Hi everyone,
I' dont know hwo I can run the qmail-pop3d daemon!
Thanks.
Allama.
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On 22 Sep 2000, at 9:10, Allama Hicham wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> I' dont know hwo I can run the qmail-pop3d daemon!
less /var/qmail/doc/FAQ; it's covered in section #5.3.
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hi,
please help me on how can i transfer from /var/spool/mqueue file from
sendmail to qmail.
thanks
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On 22 Sep 2000, at 17:32, Kimberly Vher wrote:
> please help me on how can i transfer from /var/spool/mqueue file from
> sendmail to qmail.
The only way is to have sendmail send the mails to qmail via
SMTP. (Bring up qmail to listen, specify it as smart host for
sendmail. Make sure relaying is allowed, otherwise you'll end up
bouncing sendmail's queue.)
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[Tom Waits]
> please help me on how can i transfer from /var/spool/mqueue file from
> sendmail to qmail.
There is a complete description in REMOVE.sendmail I think.
Regards, Frank
Hi all.
I'm searching a very good mailing-list manager for qmail.
Can you tell me the name and home site?
Thanks.
