Re: [qooxdoo-devel] [geeky a break] Star Wars

2010-06-15 Thread hkalyoncu
thanks for the address jean, it was a smiling start for a long day... btw i really appreciate the makers. -- View this message in context: http://qooxdoo.678.n2.nabble.com/geeky-a-break-Star-Wars-tp5183254p5185202.html Sent from the qooxdoo mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] How to create TreeFile (instead of TreeFolder) in the leaf nodes using Tree Controller?

2010-06-15 Thread MartinWittemann
Hey, It really depends on what you want to have as icon. If you want to have just file icons for all leaves, something like that could be a good idea. If you want to change the icon depending on the object in your model, you can use a binding to a property in the model. That way you could change t

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] speed of development

2010-06-15 Thread Jean-Baptiste BRIAUD -- Novlog
On 15 juin 2010, at 23:12, thron7 wrote: > >> The one thing that ExtJS and Dojo have over qooxdoo is actual printed >> material. If you stumble across E or D online, a quick search at amazon >> gives you numerous options of books on the subject. A search for qooxdoo >> results in books that me

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] speed of development

2010-06-15 Thread Jean-Baptiste BRIAUD -- Novlog
On 15 juin 2010, at 18:44, panyasan wrote: > > > Jean-Baptiste BRIAUD -- Novlog wrote: >> >> On 15 juin 2010, at 17:32, schlomer wrote: >>> I certainly can't be the only one interested in an actual book on the >>> topic... >> >> You're not ! >> As the co-writer of a french book on Java Swing

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] what's wrong with the generator?

2010-06-15 Thread Jean-Baptiste BRIAUD -- Novlog
On 16 juin 2010, at 01:11, Burak Arslan wrote: > hi, > > I suggest to group the "speed of development" thread into > what's-wrong-with threads. The discussion will be easier to follow; > especially for people who may want to help out with a particular aspect > of qooxdoo. > > So, what's wrong

[qooxdoo-devel] what's wrong with the generator?

2010-06-15 Thread Burak Arslan
hi, I suggest to group the "speed of development" thread into what's-wrong-with threads. The discussion will be easier to follow; especially for people who may want to help out with a particular aspect of qooxdoo. So, what's wrong with the generator? I have three points: 1) The .json configurat

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] sourceforge changed webpage -> qooxdoo contrib inclusion breaks

2010-06-15 Thread Tobias Oetiker
Today Thomas Herchenroeder wrote: > > It seems that sourceforge did some viewvc modifications today which > > broke the generators parsing ... > > Tobi, good catch! Gee, you even ventured into Python ;-). yep I can ... I just do not enjoy it as much :-) > Unfortunately, this will affect all vers

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] sourceforge changed webpage -> qooxdoo contrib inclusion breaks

2010-06-15 Thread Thomas Herchenroeder
> Tonight as I tried to rebuild my project, the generator said: > > argument 1 must be string or read-only character buffer, not None > > so I dug into the generator code and found that it was parsing the content > of the sourceforge > viewvc page to figure if the local copy of the contribution wa

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] speed of development

2010-06-15 Thread thron7
> they expect > qooxdoo to be a web application platform, which, in a round about way it > is, > but I would rather view it as an application framework for applications > that > run inside a browser. Very nicely put :). > That said, there is only one thing I would improve, (although I'm not > cer

[qooxdoo-devel] sourceforge changed webpage -> qooxdoo contrib inclusion breaks

2010-06-15 Thread Tobias Oetiker
Tonight as I tried to rebuild my project, the generator said: argument 1 must be string or read-only character buffer, not None so I dug into the generator code and found that it was parsing the content of the sourceforge viewvc page to figure if the local copy of the contribution was still cur

[qooxdoo-devel] [geeky a break] Star Wars

2010-06-15 Thread Jean-Baptiste BRIAUD -- Novlog
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Re: [qooxdoo-devel] Broken images when using unmanaged images in IE and Qx 1.1

2010-06-15 Thread John Spackman
Sure thing - http://bugzilla.qooxdoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3767 -Original Message- From: Alexander Steitz [mailto:alexander.ste...@1und1.de] Sent: 15 June 2010 17:14 To: qooxdoo Development Subject: Re: [qooxdoo-devel] Broken images when using unmanaged images in IE and Qx 1.1 Hi John, Am

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] Re-implemented Drag & Drop for TreeVirtual

2010-06-15 Thread Derrell Lipman
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 11:13, panyasan wrote: > Derrell Lipman wrote: > > > > Yuck. The patches required of TreeVirtual and Table are *fugly*! Some of > > the patches appear unnecessary, like patching Scroller, where there are > > already nice provided means to do that sort of thing. In this c

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] speed of development

2010-06-15 Thread panyasan
Jean-Baptiste BRIAUD -- Novlog wrote: > > On 15 juin 2010, at 17:32, schlomer wrote: >> I certainly can't be the only one interested in an actual book on the >> topic... > > You're not ! > As the co-writer of a french book on Java Swing ("Swing, la synthese", > DUNOD) I would love to see a book

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] TabPage - drag and reorder

2010-06-15 Thread Alexander Steitz
Hi Petr, Am 15.06.2010 01:48, schrieb Petr Kobalíček: > I'd like to add tab-page reordering to my application (similar that > you can find in firefox for example). I must warn you that I never did > Drag&drop with qooxdoo, so my question is, is it hard and where I > should start? The best starting

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] Broken images when using unmanaged images in IE and Qx 1.1

2010-06-15 Thread Alexander Steitz
Hi John, Am 14.06.2010 15:59, schrieb John Spackman: > Our app shows a list of images uploaded on the server, i.e. unmanaged > images and while the image displays OK in IE it also has the “broken > image” X overlaid. The img tag has it’s src attribute set to the string > “undefined”, but removing

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] speed of development

2010-06-15 Thread Jean-Baptiste BRIAUD -- Novlog
On 15 juin 2010, at 17:32, schlomer wrote: > > I certainly can't be the only one interested in an actual book on the topic... You're not ! As the co-writer of a french book on Java Swing ("Swing, la synthese", DUNOD) I would love to see a book for Qooxdoo. I could even try to convince DUNOD ed

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] speed of development

2010-06-15 Thread Fritz Zaucker
On Tue, 15 Jun 2010, thron7 wrote: >> P.S.: BTW, all the "just hire some XYZ guy ... to improve (whatever the >> requestor has in mind)" sounds great. The downside is, that even if >> money wasn't an issue (and I don't know anything about 1&1's funding >> of Qooxdoo), the real pr

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] speed of development

2010-06-15 Thread schlomer
I discovered qooxdoo about a year ago, and since then, the company I work for has fully embraced it as a staple of our development platform. I have a background in Qt, and I am amazed that there is a web toolkit that essentially replicates all of the design concepts (custom composite widgets, slo

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] speed of development

2010-06-15 Thread thron7
> So that's why I compared to Jquery and suggested to create BOM contribs (and > even the bom build version as download too directly on the qooxdoo > website)... Because people don't want to wait today. Interesting point, Benoit. --

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] speed of development

2010-06-15 Thread thron7
> P.S.: BTW, all the "just hire some XYZ guy ... to improve (whatever the > requestor has in mind)" sounds great. The downside is, that even if > money wasn't an issue (and I don't know anything about 1&1's funding > of Qooxdoo), the real problem is finding the right person (fitti

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] speed of development

2010-06-15 Thread benco
Hi Stefan, Stefan Volbers wrote: > > ... One thing I noticed that many of us seem to have in common is that > there > are only few HTML authors here, and many of us prefer to not use that > markup language for hypertexts in web applications. > > Beniot's words on javascript newbie devs made i

[qooxdoo-devel] Manual 1.2-pre online

2010-06-15 Thread thron7
The 1.2 manual preview is online. See blog post: http://news.qooxdoo.org/manual-1-2-preview T. -- ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the lucky pare

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] Re-implemented Drag & Drop for TreeVirtual

2010-06-15 Thread panyasan
Derrell Lipman wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 11:21, panyasan wrote: > >> Pressed by my users who missed the D&D they got used to in the 0.7 >> version >> of my app, I finally decided to revisit the issue and reworked saaj's >> code >> for my needs. > > Nice! This has been a much-request

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] suppressing OPTIONS request

2010-06-15 Thread b a
also, I am not doing any cross-site requests. I am actually using 127.0.0.1 and running the server locally. I do not think that this is cross-site in any imaginable way. On 6/15/10, Schwichtenberg, Frank wrote: > Hi, > I did not really following the entire discussion. But the OPTION request > app

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] suppressing OPTIONS request

2010-06-15 Thread b a
Frank are you sure about that ? because I've used jQuery for example and it did not generate any OPTION requests. Actually the only time I ever saw OPTIONS requests are now with qooxdoo. On 6/15/10, Schwichtenberg, Frank wrote: > Hi, > I did not really following the entire discussion. But the OP

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] speed of development

2010-06-15 Thread Fritz Zaucker
Stefan, my/our situation is similiar to your's, doing applications with Qooxdoo "as is". Not only for the intranet, but also for (paying) customers. So far, our customers were mostly concerned about functionality and didn't care much about theming (as long as their logo is somewhere on the applic

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] suppressing OPTIONS request

2010-06-15 Thread Schwichtenberg, Frank
Hi, I did not really following the entire discussion. But the OPTION request appears when some browsers (I tried with firefox) trying to make a cross-site request. So, you should focus on the cross-site request and ignore the OPTIONS request appearing. Regards, Frank > -Ursprüngliche Nach

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] suppressing OPTIONS request

2010-06-15 Thread Derrell Lipman
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 10:38, b a wrote: > is there any way to just make the OPTIONS request go away ? > it is really annoying. > qooxdoo never explicitly sends an OPTIONS request. If there's a way to make it go away, it would be some browser configuration. Because of that, though, if you want

[qooxdoo-devel] suppressing OPTIONS request

2010-06-15 Thread b a
is there any way to just make the OPTIONS request go away ? it is really annoying. -- ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the lucky parental unit. S

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] POST and GET ... not really

2010-06-15 Thread b a
Jean, I am using firefox 3.6.3 On 6/15/10, Jean-Baptiste BRIAUD -- Novlog wrote: > Hi, > > What browser are you using ? > I've seen (with surprise) HTTP OPTIONS with Opera. > > What is your backend ? > In Java servlet, you can redefine service method so you don't have to bother > with outdated HT

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] POST and GET ... not really

2010-06-15 Thread b a
Got OPTIONS in firebug too. yes I am not the only one, actually I can say that I've seen this issue on stackoverflow and there it was suggested that the person use JSONP instead of JSON. I do not understand how this could solve such a problem. From what I have read the OPTIONS request method is ne

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] POST and GET ... not really

2010-06-15 Thread b a
Dear Jean, my backend is Node.js On 6/15/10, Jean-Baptiste BRIAUD -- Novlog wrote: > Hi, > > What browser are you using ? > I've seen (with surprise) HTTP OPTIONS with Opera. > > What is your backend ? > In Java servlet, you can redefine service method so you don't have to bother > with outdated

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] POST and GET ... not really

2010-06-15 Thread b a
Hi Ilkka, On 6/15/10, Ilkka Oksanen wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 3:21 PM, b a wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I started writing something with qooxdoo and I also wrote a server >> so that the qooxdoo app communicates with that. >> >> In qooxdoo I made a POST request like this >> >>

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] speed of development

2010-06-15 Thread Stefan Volbers
Time for me to spend a couple o'cents too... Unlike many participants in this discussion, I don't use my own framework on top of qooxdoo, but simply create web applications, 100% of which are business intranet apps with no demand for sophisticated appearance and alike. This job gets done extrem

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] How to disable changing of mouse cursors

2010-06-15 Thread Petr Kobalíček
Hi Jonathan, it's definitelly #2892 (http://bugzilla.qooxdoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2892). It's half year old bug, any chance getting it fixed? Thank you! - Petr Kobalicek On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Jonathan Weiß wrote: > > Hello Petr, > > > the bug you are referring

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] How to disable changing of mouse cursors

2010-06-15 Thread Jonathan Weiß
Hello Petr, the bug you are referring to must be #2892 (or #487, #1300, #938). Setting the cursor globally is no trivial task since there are several places inside the framework which will change it depending on the situation (e.g. drag and drop). However, you can use widget.getApplicationRoot

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] POST and GET ... not really

2010-06-15 Thread Ilkka Oksanen
Hi, On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 3:21 PM, b a wrote: > Hi, > > I started writing something with qooxdoo and I also wrote a server > so that the qooxdoo app communicates with that. > > In qooxdoo I made a POST request like this > >var req = new qx.io.remote.Request( >

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] POST and GET ... not really

2010-06-15 Thread Petr Kobalíček
This is interesting, because if I remember correctly then you are not first with the issue. What firebug says? On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 2:21 PM, b a wrote: > Hi, > > I started writing something with qooxdoo and I also wrote a server > so that the qooxdoo app communicates with that. > > In qooxdoo

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] Globally enable/disable tooltips

2010-06-15 Thread Jonathan Weiß
Hello Fritz, no this is not possible at the moment. Feel free to open a bug report for this feature. Cheers, Jonathan - Jonathan Weiß Framework Engineer http://mysterycity.de/blog Blog - http://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanrass LinkedIn - http://www.xing.com/profile/Jonathan_Weiss5

[qooxdoo-devel] Globally enable/disable tooltips

2010-06-15 Thread Fritz Zaucker
Hi, I am wondering if it is possible to globally enable/disable tooltips in an application. Use case: - Have tooltips all over the place for training the users - Allow the user to disable the tooltips once (s)he knows all about the application I couldn't figure it out with the API. Thanks,

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] POST and GET ... not really

2010-06-15 Thread Jean-Baptiste BRIAUD -- Novlog
Hi, What browser are you using ? I've seen (with surprise) HTTP OPTIONS with Opera. What is your backend ? In Java servlet, you can redefine service method so you don't have to bother with outdated HTTP actions like GET, POST, OPTIONS and some other amazing one. On 15 juin 2010, at 14:21, b a w

[qooxdoo-devel] POST and GET ... not really

2010-06-15 Thread b a
Hi, I started writing something with qooxdoo and I also wrote a server so that the qooxdoo app communicates with that. In qooxdoo I made a POST request like this var req = new qx.io.remote.Request( "http://127.0.0.1:8124";, "POST",

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] Data binding and model to fire events on change

2010-06-15 Thread Guilherme Aiolfi
Since the server has no way (well, there is one way, see [1]) to tell the client the data has changed you won't be able to update that list without creating a new request to the server. If your are using the Json Store, you just need to call: myStore.reload(). [1] Alternatively you can use comet,

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] speed of development

2010-06-15 Thread thron7
> I'm extremely pleased with Qooxdoo and I believe it's the most mature and > robust RIA Javascript framework. The structure of the framework is excellent > and the code is extremely clean. I also think the documentation is super! > The developers are doing a tremendous work. Thanks :). > I'm mai

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] speed of development

2010-06-15 Thread benco
Hi everybody, Very interesting post indeed. I Think nearly everything has been covered so I only will make some comments and suggestions. 1) Indeed, Qooxdoo isn't so famous - I didn't say 'powerful' ;-). Every javascript newbie developer will use Jquery instead because they don't need the stro

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] Single-file qooxdoo sympathizers

2010-06-15 Thread Heiko Stübner
Hi, Am Dienstag 15 Juni 2010 schrieb thron7: > Grabbing just the qooxdoo .js file this way would not work. You would > have to copy all the images along. And not only for this one > application, but also for the next, and the next, and the next. This is > a waste of disk space you'd say, so you wo

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] speed of development

2010-06-15 Thread Jean-Baptiste BRIAUD -- Novlog
On 15 juin 2010, at 13:03, thron7 wrote: > This was not the point. The point was that we have a direction, and that > things have to fit into that direction in order to be adopted. What is that direction, could we know ? Who give that direction ? Is it done in the spirit of open source community

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] a jqPlot qooxdoo integration widget contrib

2010-06-15 Thread Tobias Oetiker
Hi Benco, Today benco wrote: > > Hi, > > Congrats for your work, I think I'll use your contrib in a new > project :). > > I noticed your contrib is mainly a wrapper to the full jqPlot > package and I wonder if you plan to make a full port/fork of the > library ? > > I mean... For the moment, Jquer

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] speed of development

2010-06-15 Thread thron7
> We are contributing to build a true market outside 1&1 for Qooxdoo > techno, so we try to partner with Qooxdoo as much as we can, but this is > not simple being outside 1&1. > Every time I talk to software architect, they just purely never heard > about Qooxdoo and 1&1. > I'm facing it everyday a

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] Single-file qooxdoo sympathizers

2010-06-15 Thread Petr Kobalíček
Hi Thomas, maybe the biggest problem is the monolithic architecture used by qooxdoo. You never though about using qooxdoo as dynamic packages so qooxdoo contains tons of images that will be never used, but thanks to generator they are excluded in the final build. This problem can be solved by int

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] speed of development

2010-06-15 Thread joakim_
Hi! Very interesting discussion. I'm extremely pleased with Qooxdoo and I believe it's the most mature and robust RIA Javascript framework. The structure of the framework is excellent and the code is extremely clean. I also think the documentation is super! The developers are doing a tremendous w

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] a jqPlot qooxdoo integration widget contrib

2010-06-15 Thread benco
Hi, Congrats for your work, I think I'll use your contrib in a new project :). I noticed your contrib is mainly a wrapper to the full jqPlot package and I wonder if you plan to make a full port/fork of the library ? I mean... For the moment, Jquery is included in the resources folder for instan

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] speed of development

2010-06-15 Thread panyasan
Jean-Baptiste BRIAUD -- Novlog wrote: > > >> qooxdoo contrib >> contrib has always be seen as an incubator, just read the main page [2]. > > Too much a self organizing incubator. Aligning tons of plugins is the > Eclipse's mistake. > I would not like this becoming Qooxdo's mistake to align ton

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] speed of development

2010-06-15 Thread Jean-Baptiste BRIAUD -- Novlog
I'll add my voice to that very positive point : mailling list is very reactive. I found the mindset very interesting, open, clear, helpful. On 15 juin 2010, at 11:06, Jason P Sage wrote: > Nice to hear positive stuff man! :) Them folks are pretty good! :) > > Greg Beaver wrote: >> Hi, >> >> ...

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] Single-file qooxdoo sympathizers

2010-06-15 Thread thron7
> I am sure you have already explained that somewhere, but could you quickly > summarize again why it is not possible or desirable from your point of view > to include the needed images in a ZIP that contains the build folder > (containing the resources). Other js frameworks do that, so I haven't

[qooxdoo-devel] How to create TreeFile (instead of TreeFolder) in the leaf nodes using Tree Controller?

2010-06-15 Thread uccio83
I am trying to replicate the searchAsYouType textfield and Tree view of the demobrowser, removing all the complicated parts about tree generation, tags, version... I just created a JsonStore and bound it to a Tree Controller that is controlling my Tree view. It is working quite well, but I notice

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] speed of development

2010-06-15 Thread Jason P Sage
Nice to hear positive stuff man! :) Them folks are pretty good! :) Greg Beaver wrote: > Hi, > > ...I want to say that I have found nothing but blitz speed of > development as a direct result of the attention that 1&1 devs pay to the > mailing list. Quite literally every question I have asked has

[qooxdoo-devel] Data binding and model to fire events on change

2010-06-15 Thread Simone Pandolfo
hi, I am trying to configure a data binding that allows me to view live data. Reading the documentation I understood that this is done by the "model" but I haven't found examples about. My application use JSON-RPC for the requests to the backend, but the backend works with events and I wish I cou

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] speed of development

2010-06-15 Thread Andreas Ecker
Hi, this thread has gathered quite some input. Always important for a project and a good chance to clear things up. Thanks to everyone so far who put in his/her 2 cents - or more ;-) Didn't want to (and couldn't) interrupt all the input early on and address every single aspect individually. With

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] Single-file qooxdoo sympathizers

2010-06-15 Thread panyasan
Hello Thomas, I am sure you have already explained that somewhere, but could you quickly summarize again why it is not possible or desirable from your point of view to include the needed images in a ZIP that contains the build folder (containing the resources). Other js frameworks do that, so I

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] Form validation question

2010-06-15 Thread alexander.volik
Thank you, Martin! -- View this message in context: http://qooxdoo.678.n2.nabble.com/Form-validation-question-tp5161999p5180911.html Sent from the qooxdoo mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- ThinkGeek and WIRED's Gee

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] speed of development

2010-06-15 Thread Jean-Baptiste BRIAUD -- Novlog
I want 4 cents too ;-) As it was done by others, I'd like to add that I'm a Java developer. I discovered js with OpenLaszlo but I really used it with Qooxdoo. I'm don't have web background (HTML, CSS, ...) On 14 juin 2010, at 21:04, thron7 wrote: > I take the opportunity to throw in another 2 ce

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] Removing the cursor on a drag and drop - other cursor questions

2010-06-15 Thread Jean-Noël Rivasseau
Thanks for the advices. I have not gotten around to trying it but I will probably do it this week, I am sure it'll work :) Cheers Jean-Noel On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 12:01 AM, Alexander Steitz wrote: > Hi Jean-Noël, > > Am 10.06.2010 03:30, schrieb Jean-Noël Rivasseau: >> I am coding a basic drag