Re: [qooxdoo-devel] Thoughts on ExtJS vs qooxdoo

2008-02-06 Thread sub
I can say that extjs seems to have more relevent/usable demo's. The dragable portal like interface, web desktop, image library, dialog boxes, progress indicators etc. First impressions go a long way and I have no doubt that many people who see these demo's are thinking that they can lift these ex

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] Thoughts on ExtJS vs qooxdoo

2008-01-29 Thread S, Mohamed Raffi (Mohamed)
] On Behalf Of Rahul Sharma Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 3:49 PM To: qooxdoo Development; qooxdoo Development Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [qooxdoo-devel] Thoughts on ExtJS vs qooxdoo Recently I evaluated Qooxdoo and extJS and chose Qooxdoo. While I see many snippets targeting Sebastian, let

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] Thoughts on ExtJS vs qooxdoo

2008-01-29 Thread Siarhei Barysiuk
Eclipse > RAP and for Borland Delphi. How can you beat that? You don't even know how > many people would be using Qooxdoo "indirectly". > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Sebastian Werner > Sent: Fri 1/25/2008 4:04 PM &g

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] Thoughts on ExtJS vs qooxdoo

2008-01-29 Thread Rahul Sharma
t Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [qooxdoo-devel] Thoughts on ExtJS vs qooxdoo thron7 schrieb: >> What I would value is more timely feedback from qooxdoo developers on >> bugs. When 0.7.3 was done it seemed that there was a flurry of bug fixing >> and then a release made as soon

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] Thoughts on ExtJS vs qooxdoo

2008-01-25 Thread Hugh Gibson
> I don't think that it is realistic, > that with the current (human) resource situation, there will be > beta versions before minor updates. Regarding major releases like > 0.7, we normally have some pre, alpha, beta versions out to give > the community the possibility to test them and give fe

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] Thoughts on ExtJS vs qooxdoo

2008-01-25 Thread Sebastian Werner
thron7 schrieb: >> What I would value is more timely feedback from qooxdoo developers on >> bugs. When 0.7.3 was done it seemed that there was a flurry of bug fixing >> and then a release made as soon as possible with little testing - not >> even a beta release. However, there are some important pr

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] Thoughts on ExtJS vs qooxdoo

2008-01-25 Thread thron7
> What I would value is more timely feedback from qooxdoo developers on > bugs. When 0.7.3 was done it seemed that there was a flurry of bug fixing > and then a release made as soon as possible with little testing - not > even a beta release. However, there are some important problems that > requi

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] Thoughts on ExtJS vs qooxdoo

2008-01-24 Thread Tobias Koller (GERMO GmbH)
: Re: [qooxdoo-devel] Thoughts on ExtJS vs qooxdoo I already startet such project, but such a huge project - so little free time (and I was never good in writing long on one program...) A bad coded alpha is still available at http://rubyweb.de/qxweida/ Also I startet to rewrite it some weeks ago

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] Thoughts on ExtJS vs qooxdoo

2008-01-24 Thread Hugh Gibson
> OK, this are many many people. Our list currently has about 400 > members. This is nothing compared to >2. That may be one > reason. qooxdoo is open source and I always try to have a look > into the questions, but I have also a lot of other stuff todo. We > really need to help each ot

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] Thoughts on ExtJS vs qooxdoo

2008-01-24 Thread Andreas Ecker
Hi Hugh, let me answer your questions. Hugh Gibson wrote: > I would be interested to know what will be the transition from 0.8 to > version 1.0. There is undoubtedly some resistance to using qooxdoo > because it has still not got its first release. It's only when you dig > deeper that you realise

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] Thoughts on ExtJS vs qooxdoo

2008-01-24 Thread Sebastian Werner
Ooops, yes I have overlook (Derrell ;)) that you have already started with a project. We should definitely combine the free resources here. There already other parts of code existing which may be helpful, too: The "inspector" project already has a sophisticated property inspector for qooxdoo wid

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] Thoughts on ExtJS vs qooxdoo

2008-01-24 Thread Leander Hanwald
I already startet such project, but such a huge project - so little free time (and I was never good in writing long on one program...) A bad coded alpha is still available at http://rubyweb.de/qxweida/ Also I startet to rewrite it some weeks ago (the coding stile of the alpha made any further codi

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] Thoughts on ExtJS vs qooxdoo

2008-01-24 Thread Sebastian Werner
Hugh Gibson schrieb: >> One of the stated goals of the new layout engine is that it should >> be possible for everyone with a decent knowledge of qooxdoo to >> write his own layout manager. > > Hmmm. I don't want to write a layout manager. I want to login to > http://qooxdoo.org/layoutcreate.htm

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] Thoughts on ExtJS vs qooxdoo

2008-01-24 Thread Hugh Gibson
> One of the stated goals of the new layout engine is that it should > be possible for everyone with a decent knowledge of qooxdoo to > write his own layout manager. Hmmm. I don't want to write a layout manager. I want to login to http://qooxdoo.org/layoutcreate.html and start dragging and dropp

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] Thoughts on ExtJS vs qooxdoo

2008-01-24 Thread Fabian Jakobs
Hugh Gibson schrieb: >> qooxdoo 0.8 will massively improve on many of the listed points. >> Detailed roadmaps and plans will be published online in the >> following weeks. Stay tuned :) >> > > I would be interested to know what will be the transition from 0.8 to > version 1.0. There is undou

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] Thoughts on ExtJS vs qooxdoo

2008-01-24 Thread Hugh Gibson
> qooxdoo 0.8 will massively improve on many of the listed points. > Detailed roadmaps and plans will be published online in the > following weeks. Stay tuned :) I would be interested to know what will be the transition from 0.8 to version 1.0. There is undoubtedly some resistance to using qooxd

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] Thoughts on ExtJS vs qooxdoo

2008-01-24 Thread Sebastian Werner
Hi all, I does not know if it's interesting for you to hear my opinion as one of the lead developers of qooxdoo. It always a bit hard to try to be objective in my position. I will try my best ;) I should also note that I have no strong knowledge using ExtJs so I may be wrong with some facts. T

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] Thoughts on ExtJS vs qooxdoo

2008-01-24 Thread Jim Hunter
Consider it done. Jim On Jan 23, 2008 11:53 PM, Sebastian Werner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's great Jim. You can directly start. ;) If you have the feeling > that the developer of a specific component oversees a question or report > please feel free to help out and inform the developer.

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] Thoughts on ExtJS vs qooxdoo

2008-01-23 Thread Sebastian Werner
a how many members this mailing list has, but the Ext forums >> have 23,500 members - just over 19,000 of which are currently active. >> >> Cheers >> Aaron >> >> - Original Message - >> *From:* Jim Hunter <mailto:[EMAIL PROT

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] Thoughts on ExtJS vs qooxdoo

2008-01-23 Thread thron7
Hi all, just wanna throw in a few thoughts on this topic. Generally, all frameworks have their merits and drawbacks, and it's a good idea to evaluate them from the perspective of what you want to achieve and what your preferences are. The focus for qooxdoo was always what you might call "enter

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] Thoughts on ExtJS vs qooxdoo

2008-01-22 Thread Jim Hunter
embers - just over 19,000 of which are currently active. > > Cheers > Aaron > > - Original Message - > *From:* Jim Hunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > *To:* qooxdoo Development > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:30 AM > *Subject:* Re: [qooxdoo-devel] Thoughts on ExtJS v

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] Thoughts on ExtJS vs qooxdoo

2008-01-22 Thread Sebastian Werner
Cheers Aaron - Original Message - From: Jim Hunter To: qooxdoo Development Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:30 AM Subject: Re: [qooxdoo-devel] Thoughts on ExtJS vs qooxdoo Aaron, I just did a quick search and you have made or contributed to 14 threads in this list and except for your post

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] Thoughts on ExtJS vs qooxdoo

2008-01-22 Thread Aaron Cooper
pment Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:30 AM Subject: Re: [qooxdoo-devel] Thoughts on ExtJS vs qooxdoo Aaron, I just did a quick search and you have made or contributed to 14 threads in this list and except for your post from 2 days ago (which now has an answer), all your posts were resp

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] Thoughts on ExtJS vs qooxdoo

2008-01-22 Thread Jim Hunter
sing these frameworks to build > large database apps. > > Aaron > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris > Haynes > Sent: Wednesday, 23 January 2008 5:47 a.m. > To: qooxdoo Development > Subject: Re

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] Thoughts on ExtJS vs qooxdoo

2008-01-22 Thread Aaron Cooper
on -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Haynes Sent: Wednesday, 23 January 2008 5:47 a.m. To: qooxdoo Development Subject: Re: [qooxdoo-devel] Thoughts on ExtJS vs qooxdoo I've not looked at ExtJS, but you might be interested in m

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] Thoughts on ExtJS vs qooxdoo

2008-01-22 Thread Chris Haynes
I've not looked at ExtJS, but you might be interested in my experience of qooxdoo, having adopted it about 6 weeks ago. My starting point is programming in Java (and, in the past 45 years, Pascal, Smalltalk, Prolog, Algol, Fortran and various assembly languages). I had been holding back on con

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] Thoughts on ExtJS vs qooxdoo

2008-01-21 Thread sub
Thanks for the detailed responses all. I agree that I hope 0.8 brings UI capabilities closer. The samples on the extjs homepage do look nice such as the web desktop and IM like client. It also feels more responsive but I'm not too sure about that. I think it's great that there's now strong compe

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] Thoughts on ExtJS vs qooxdoo

2008-01-21 Thread Aaron Cooper
I've used both for two rather large database developments, and I have to say that ExtJs has stolen the show for me. I still kick around this mailing list as I still need to maintain the Qooxdoo system we developed but I'm now investing more learning time into ExtJs. The reasons for this are not s

Re: [qooxdoo-devel] Thoughts on ExtJS vs qooxdoo

2008-01-21 Thread frederic
Hi John, I'm using qooxdoo since v0.6 and ExtJS since v2.0 and these 2 UI frameworks have both advantages and inconvenients in my point of view. My main work is to build quickly AJAX apps with php backend using JSON and build rich UI (panel, accordion, tree, form, RTE,...). Firstly, ExtJS is more

[qooxdoo-devel] Thoughts on ExtJS vs qooxdoo

2008-01-21 Thread sub
Hey guys, I've been following qooxdoo for almost 2 years and I think it's a fantastic framework, not only for a UI but from a OO and overall framework perspective - fantastic stuff. It's great to see such an active forum as well - it give a good sense of the health of the project. I'd like to he