Re: future directions

2012-05-01 Thread Jose Borges Ferreira
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 12:53 AM, David Nicol wrote: > > On 04/28/2012 03:41 PM, Robert Spier wrote: > >> I'm working on a "Qpsmtpd Big Picture" document that contains a flowchart > >> of a sample connection, a catalog of all the plugins, what each plugin > >> does/sets/changes, and what informati

Re: future directions

2012-05-01 Thread Matt Simerson
On Apr 30, 2012, at 11:38 PM, Robert Spier wrote: > On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Matt Simerson wrote: > > On Apr 29, 2012, at 11:45 PM, Michael Papet wrote: > > >> As it stands, there's often no way to answer questions like, 'how much of > >> my ham will fail this test?' or 'will I lose va

Re: future directions

2012-04-30 Thread Robert Spier
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Matt Simerson wrote: > > On Apr 29, 2012, at 11:45 PM, Michael Papet wrote: > > >> As it stands, > >> there's often no way to answer questions like, 'how much of > >> my ham will fail this test?' or 'will I lose valid mail > >> using plugin X?' It's completely ne

Re: future directions

2012-04-30 Thread David Nicol
On 04/28/2012 03:41 PM, Robert Spier wrote: > log a reasonable amount, especially for LOGINFO. I know, I know, > reasonable is hard to pin down, but a little bit of guidance could go a > long ways here: > >DEBUG -> fire hose, spray away logging anything and everything. >INFO

Re: future directions

2012-04-30 Thread Matt Simerson
On Apr 29, 2012, at 11:45 PM, Michael Papet wrote: >> As it stands, >> there's often no way to answer questions like, 'how much of >> my ham will fail this test?' or 'will I lose valid mail >> using plugin X?' It's completely nebulous. > > When I need this, I use logging. I flip qpsmtpd into

Re: future directions

2012-04-30 Thread Kjetil Kjernsmo
On Saturday 28. April 2012 13.41.20 Robert Spier wrote: > > > Maybe the time has come to "do a release" (0.9?) and then open > > > things up for major cleanups/changes. > > This might actually be 0.85, but that's irrelevant. As someone who prefers to run his production systems with as few deviati

Re: future directions

2012-04-29 Thread Michael Papet
> As it stands, > there's often no way to answer questions like, 'how much of > my ham will fail this test?' or 'will I lose valid mail > using plugin X?'  It's completely nebulous. When I need this, I use logging. I flip qpsmtpd into info mode with a few extra logging stanzas. While I see th

Re: future directions

2012-04-28 Thread Robert Spier
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 7:54 PM, Ask Bjørn Hansen wrote: > On Apr 28, 2012, at 13:41, Robert Spier wrote: > > > One thing that would help is if you could split your changes into > multiple > > pull requests -- if we're going to try using github as our mechanism, > every > > pull request should be

Re: future directions

2012-04-28 Thread Ask Bjørn Hansen
On Apr 28, 2012, at 13:41, Robert Spier wrote: > One thing that would help is if you could split your changes into multiple > pull requests -- if we're going to try using github as our mechanism, every > pull request should be for one "feature". There's a lot of your changes > pending right now

Re: future directions

2012-04-28 Thread Matt Simerson
> I'm all in favor. > > I'm doing more work on plugins right now and have a bunch more changes in the > pipes. Most of the changes revolve around several practices which I think all > plugins should adhere to: > > One thing that would help is if you could split your changes into multiple > pu

future directions

2012-04-28 Thread Robert Spier
> > > > Maybe the time has come to "do a release" (0.9?) and then open things up > > for major cleanups/changes. > This might actually be 0.85, but that's irrelevant. > > > > -R > > I'm all in favor. > > I'm doing more work on plugins right now and have a bunch more changes in > the pipes. Most