----- Original Message ---- From: John S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, August 2, 2008 2:58:57 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Re: Check out our new website
I believe it should be socialized so when someone needs a miracle, we can dump them in Canada, like Canada does with their socialized system. If you do not do volunteer time at a hospital or nursing home, you have no idea what not caring really is. They just cut what doctors can get paid by Medicare by 10%. The only doctors that care are the ones that do boob jobs Best wishes john > I didn't need a miracle, I just needed attendant care & housing. And here > they don't just give it to you, you have to go through a rigorous screening > process. In Fl I did all the research; either you're on medicaid waiver(the > waiting list for 2 years! and then they'd help me with 6hrs a > week(non-medical), IF I had a family member living with me and doing most of > the work. The other option was a nursing home, which gives me no life. When I > say 'don't care' I'm not talking about nurses, doctors, etc, I meant > healthcare policy makers, politicians responsible for healthcare. And housing > in Fl.. I'd be either in a home, with familly, or in a ghetto > neighborhood(necesarilly with a familly member) where I wouldn't be safe. I > don't know what you mean by 'socialized medicine', to me thats a US political > slogan to avoid a real functioning healthcare system. Here I'm going through > months of thorough evaluations and getting good housing, full medical > coverage, ac.. so if thats bad, well I'll take it over a nursing home. One thing I will say is that my injury was in PA in '86 and I lived there for 6yrs afterward and that state was very helpful to me and there were similar measures in place to here. I tried to make Fl work because my daughter lives there(I tried vr too and it was good until Geb became governor and cut vr big time, so I'm thinking that his policies will move to other states, alas. And if you think the medical system here somehow weakens this economy, its just not the case. Canada's economy is at least as functional as the US(I'm not sure whether there are differences in other provinces). But believe me I wouldn't have left Florida if I could have just gotten some functional care with a quality of life. A big difference I think is that in Florida it became(after my first vr counselor was suddenly replaced by a bearucratic ogre in '03) - everything I needed, supplies/housing/ac - it was as if being disabled made you a leach and the administrators weren't trying to help, but to hinder you so you'd get the least they could do; thats the main difference, here they're actually able to assist me to live functionally and possibly be productive. The medicaid waiver nurse evaluater who assessed me in FL was really understanding and nice, and she told me after finding out about my Canadian birth, that 'I think you should move back to Canada. If I were you I would.' I'm not sure how I even made it through 4 months of hotel beds and friends/families' living rooms but my Dad who left his life to help me move, and I, were desperate and willing to do whatever it took, even if it killed me. I'm a c5/6 complete quad and I think the US is prosperous enough to give us like 4hrs per day and a decent wheelchair-friendly apt in its housing policies. I'm not saying every state is like Fl, because PA was very helpful to me 20yrs ago. Truly, Dylan ps. I never first intended to write anything about this but when I saw that post about 'US healthcare in crisis' I felt impulsively compeled to say something due to my recent experience. I know there are many caring healthcare professionals all over the US and my life has been saved by a number of them. ----- Original Message ---- From: Dylan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, August 1, 2008 9:37:11 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] Re: Check out our new website Yeah, they're absolutely right about US healthcare being in crisis. I recently came back to Canada(lucky for me I have dual citizenship) and its night and day compared to the US. The problem with petitioning down there in my opinion is that they REALLY DON'T CARE. If there were some caring people in power things would be done right, and judging from the evidence, caring is furthest from their mind. Not that we shouldn't petition, just try to get these people to have a heart. Excuse my rambling but I am shocked by the difference between the people in healthcare here, and those in florida where I came from. Dylan c5/6 23yrs 08/10/08 ----- Original Message ---- From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, August 1, 2008 11:30:37 AM Subject: [QUAD-L] Re: Check out our new website Dear Dana Wray, Our brand new Stand Up for Health Care website is already making a big splash. Thousands of people have visited the site to learn about the health care crisis and take action in support of guaranteed quality, affordable health care for all. Together, we're going to make a major impact on the national health care debate. But that will only happen if activists like you continue to come together to make a strong, united call for real health care reform. You can do your part by signing our petition to John McCain and Barack Obama. The petition sends a clear message that the American people will hold the candidates accountable for improving our nation's health care system so that no one is left out. 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