Re: Naughty SCSI drives.

2002-08-15 Thread Allen Davis
I have to pipe in on this one! the pickle wrote: At 19:04 -0500 on 14/08/02, Allen Davis wrote: I used to be like him. I still have an entire 8-foot tall bookcase packed with nothing but Mac books. Alas, most of them now are quite dated. Macintosh Bible, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th Editions;

Naughty SCSI drives.

2002-08-14 Thread Kyle Kinsey
Well the playing with the c650s continue, today a few SCSI drive questions. 1. One drive I was trying to get to work doesn't seem to start when the computer is switched on. That is it doesn't initialise or make any noise. However when drive setup scans it it starts! Can I get it to start

Re: Naughty SCSI drives.

2002-08-14 Thread Art
on 8/14/02 09:00, Kyle Kinsey at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well the playing with the c650s continue, today a few SCSI drive questions. 1. One drive I was trying to get to work doesn't seem to start when the computer is switched on. That is it doesn't initialise or make any noise.

Re: Naughty SCSI drives.

2002-08-14 Thread the pickle
At 14:00 +0100 on 14/08/02, Kyle Kinsey wrote: 1. One drive I was trying to get to work doesn't seem to start when the computer is switched on. That is it doesn't initialise or make any noise. However when drive setup scans it it starts! Can I get it to start normally, if so how! Check the

Re: Naughty SCSI drives.

2002-08-14 Thread the pickle
At 10:38 -0400 on 14/08/02, Art wrote: I know this sounds strange but with the second drive that you mentioned ... Uh-huh... disconnect it and place it in the freezer for about 24 hours. Take it out and let it thaw ... then remove all the condensation ... plug it in and see what happens. If

Re: Naughty SCSI drives.

2002-08-14 Thread Kyle Kinsey
Check the jumpers on the drive against the manufacturer's listed settings and see if there's something weird enabled. and for reference what shoudl and what should not be set for use on macs? One of the drives (that i found the spec for ) has the following Terminator Power * 2 (to set either

Re: Naughty SCSI drives.

2002-08-14 Thread the pickle
At 17:44 +0100 on 14/08/02, Kyle Kinsey wrote: Check the jumpers on the drive against the manufacturer's listed settings and see if there's something weird enabled. and for reference what shoudl and what should not be set for use on macs? One of the drives (that i found the spec for ) has the

Re: Naughty SCSI drives.

2002-08-14 Thread David Pierce
I know this sounds strange but with the second drive that you mentioned ... disconnect it and place it in the freezer for about 24 hours. Take it out and let it thaw ... then remove all the condensation ... plug it in and see what happens. If this does not work likely it is dead. You're

Re: Naughty SCSI drives.

2002-08-14 Thread Clark Martin
At 12:48 PM -0400 8/14/02, the pickle wrote: At 17:44 +0100 on 14/08/02, Kyle Kinsey wrote: Check the jumpers on the drive against the manufacturer's listed settings and see if there's something weird enabled. and for reference what shoudl and what should not be set for use on macs? One of the

Re: Naughty SCSI drives.

2002-08-14 Thread Jim Pendarvis
I know this sounds strange but with the second drive that you mentioned ... disconnect it and place it in the freezer for about 24 hours. Take it out and let it thaw ... then remove all the condensation ... plug it in and see what happens. If this does not work likely it is dead. You're right,

Re: Naughty SCSI drives.

2002-08-14 Thread Art
on 8/14/02 2:57 PM, Jim Pendarvis at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know this sounds strange but with the second drive that you mentioned ... disconnect it and place it in the freezer for about 24 hours. Take it out and let it thaw ... then remove all the condensation ... plug it in and see

Re: Naughty SCSI drives.

2002-08-14 Thread Art
on 8/14/02 11:45 AM, the pickle at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:38 -0400 on 14/08/02, Art wrote: I know this sounds strange but with the second drive that you mentioned ... Uh-huh... disconnect it and place it in the freezer for about 24 hours. Take it out and let it thaw ... then

Re: Naughty SCSI drives.

2002-08-14 Thread william ahearn
Art wrote: ... I now have about a dozen drives that otherwise would have gone in the dump. I think someone -- maybe Kyle -- suggested that this was a last resort to save data. Believe him. William JMUG-Connect http://www.isp.jmug.org All Macs. All the time. -- Quadlist is sponsored by

Re: Naughty SCSI drives.

2002-08-14 Thread Allen Davis
Kyle Kinsey wrote: Well the playing with the c650s continue, today a few SCSI drive questions. 1. One drive I was trying to get to work doesn't seem to start when the computer is switched on. That is it doesn't initialise or make any noise. However when drive setup scans it it starts!

Re: Naughty SCSI drives.

2002-08-14 Thread Allen Davis
Art wrote: on 8/14/02 11:45 AM, the pickle at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:38 -0400 on 14/08/02, Art wrote: I know this sounds strange but with the second drive that you mentioned ... Uh-huh... disconnect it and place it in the freezer for about 24 hours. Take it out and

Re: Naughty SCSI drives.

2002-08-14 Thread william ahearn
Allen Davis wrote: I also have a giant box of seemingly dead hard drives I've never been able to toss out. I'm going to give the freezer trick a tryout. The logic seems sound. I have heard of stranger things that worked in a pinch! You can also try -- first -- taking the drive and giving

Re: Naughty SCSI drives.

2002-08-14 Thread the pickle
At 19:04 -0500 on 14/08/02, Allen Davis wrote: I used to be like him. I still have an entire 8-foot tall bookcase packed with nothing but Mac books. Alas, most of them now are quite dated. Macintosh Bible, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th Editions; Dr. Macintosh by Bob Levitus; The Complete Macintosh;

Re: Naughty SCSI drives.

2002-08-14 Thread Art
Well I am still using the first drive that I did it to about a eyar ago...however, always back up information you don't want to be without! Art wrote: ... I now have about a dozen drives that otherwise would have gone in the dump. I think someone -- maybe Kyle -- suggested that this was a

Re: Naughty SCSI drives.

2002-08-14 Thread william ahearn
Art wrote: Well I am still using the first drive that I did it to about a eyar ago...however, always back up information you don't want to be without! But we don't. All I'm saying is that if you have to slap or freeze a drive don't ever trust it for anything. Ever. William JMUG-Connect

Re: Naughty SCSI drives.

2002-08-14 Thread Allen Davis
william ahearn wrote: Allen Davis wrote: I also have a giant box of seemingly dead hard drives I've never been able to toss out. I'm going to give the freezer trick a tryout. The logic seems sound. I have heard of stranger things that worked in a pinch! You can also try -- first --