Alex -

I haven't answered because I don't know the answers to your question
without some research and investigation.  Unfortunately routing protocols
are complicated and It's sometimes a non-trivial amount of work to answer
someone's question.

donald

On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 3:13 AM, <g...@switch.ch> wrote:

>
> I'm starting to feel stupid talking to myself here.  What are the
> magic words I need to say to get any kind of response to this issue?
>
> It's a rather fundamental difference in behaviuor and it breaks my use
> case.  Help, please.
>
> --
> Alex
>
> On Wed, 30 Mar 2016 12:36:20 +0200, g...@switch.ch said:
>
> > Can someone please comment at least on the differing behaviour of
> > zebrad with respect to routes of type "ra" and "kernel"?
>
> > Should "ra" be trated like "kernel"?  If not, why?
>
> > --
> > Alex
>
> > On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 14:57:17 +0100, g...@switch.ch said:
>
> >> I've been using quagga for a long time to implement router-style
> >> "loopback" addresses on multi-homed hosts, i.e. I configure a /128 on
> >> the lo device and announce it via BGP.  The host receives a default
> >> route ::/0 and I use BGP policies to select which interface to prefer
> >> for outbound traffic.  At the same time, the host uses SLAAC to
> >> set up a default route on each interface as a fallback.
>
> >> Here is an example using Quagga 0.99.22.4 on Linux 3.2.0 which works
> >> as desired:
>
> >> $ ip -6 r l | grep default
> >> default via fe80::2a94:fff:fefd:5bc0 dev eth2  proto zebra  metric 10
> >> default via fe80::2a94:fff:fefd:5bc0 dev eth0  proto kernel  metric
> 1024  expires 1794sec hoplimit 64
> >> default via fe80::2a94:fff:fefd:5bc0 dev eth2  proto kernel  metric
> 1024  expires 1783sec hoplimit 64
> >> default via fe80::2a94:fff:fefd:4940 dev eth3  proto kernel  metric
> 1024  expires 1676sec hoplimit 64
> >> default via fe80::2a94:fff:fefd:4940 dev eth1  proto kernel  metric
> 1024  expires 1794sec hoplimit 64
>
> zebrad> sh ipv6 ro
> >> Codes: K - kernel route, C - connected, S - static, R - RIPng,
> >> O - OSPFv6, I - IS-IS, B - BGP, A - Babel,
> >>> - selected route, * - FIB route
>
> B> * ::/0 [20/10] via fe80::2a94:fff:fefd:5bc0, eth2, 03w3d01h
> C> * ::1/128 is directly connected, lo
> C> * 2001:620::1a/128 is directly connected, lo
> C> * 2001:620:0:ff::3/128 is directly connected, lo
> C> * 2001:620:0:800c::/64 is directly connected, eth0
> C> * 2001:620:0:800d::/64 is directly connected, eth2
> C> * 2001:620:0:800e::/64 is directly connected, eth1
> C> * 2001:620:0:800f::/64 is directly connected, eth3
> >> C * fe80::/64 is directly connected, eth3
> >> C * fe80::/64 is directly connected, eth1
> >> C * fe80::/64 is directly connected, eth2
> C> * fe80::/64 is directly connected, eth0
> zebrad> sh ipv6 ro ::/0
> >> Routing entry for ::/0
> >> Known via "bgp", distance 20, metric 10, best
> >> Last update 03w3d01h ago
> >> * fe80::2a94:fff:fefd:5bc0, via eth2
>
> >> The BGP route is installed in the kernel with metric 10 as expected.
> >> If the host looses its BGP peers, it still has the default routes via
> >> SLAAC.
>
> >> On another system running Quagga 0.99.23.1 and Linux 3.16.0, the BGP
> >> route doesn't get installed:
>
> >> $ ip -6 r l | grep default
> >> default via fe80::207:7dff:fe76:5980 dev eth0  proto ra  metric 1024
> expires 1631sec hoplimit 64
> >> default via fe80::207:7dff:fe76:5940 dev eth4  proto ra  metric 1024
> expires 1709sec hoplimit 64
>
> zebrad> sh ipv6 ro
> >> Codes: K - kernel route, C - connected, S - static, R - RIPng,
> >> O - OSPFv6, I - IS-IS, B - BGP, A - Babel,
> >>> - selected route, * - FIB route
>
> >> B   ::/0 [20/1] via fe80::207:7dff:fe76:5940, eth4, 04w3d23h
> K> * ::/0 via fe80::207:7dff:fe76:5940, eth4
> C> * ::1/128 is directly connected, lo
> C> * 2001:620::10/128 is directly connected, lo
> C> * 2001:620:0:8018::/64 is directly connected, eth0
> C> * 2001:620:0:8019::/64 is directly connected, eth4
> >> C * fe80::/64 is directly connected, eth4
> C> * fe80::/64 is directly connected, eth0
> zebrad> sh ipv6 ro ::/0
> >> Routing entry for ::/0
> >> Known via "bgp", distance 20, metric 1
> >> Last update 04w3d23h ago
> >> fe80::207:7dff:fe76:5940, via eth4
>
> >> Routing entry for ::/0
> >> Known via "kernel", distance 0, metric 1024, best
> >> * fe80::207:7dff:fe76:5940, via eth4
>
> >> The difference is that zebrad now picks up one of the default routes
> >> from SLAAC with an administrative distance of 0, which makes it
> >> impossible to override with BGP.
>
> >> The obvious difference is that the 3.16 kernel uses proto "ra" instead
> >> of proto "kernel" for the routes learned via SLAAC (i don't know in
> >> which kernel version this started to happen).  I'm totally unfamiliar
> >> with the Quagga code, but a glance at
> >> zebra/rt_netlink.c:netlink_routing_table() seems to suggest that
> >> routes of type "kernel" are always ignored due to
>
> >> if (rtm->rtm_protocol == RTPROT_KERNEL)
> >> return 0;
>
> >> Since the routes in question are now using proto "ra", they are no
> >> longer ignored, hence the different behaviour of zebrad.
>
> >> So, my question is whether this is really how it's supposed to be.  If
> >> so, how can I override it?  I do believe that I should be able to do
> >> that.  If it's a bug, maybe routes of type RTPROT_RA should be ignored
> >> as well?
>
> >> --
> >> Alex
>
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