On Tue, 2017-01-31 at 19:13 -0800, Andrew David Wong wrote:
> (Replying on qubes-users, which is the appropriate list for threads
> like this one. Please see: https://www.qubes-os.org/mailing-lists/)
> 
Yeah, well, it did looked like a bug to me, that's why I posted on
devel. Anyway...

> On 2017-01-31 06:39, Dario Faggioli wrote:
> > The specific cause seems a bit random too. One time, it was
> > qubes-db which was not starting inside it (neither automatically,
> > nor if I tried manually). Another time I got a libvirt error saying
> > that the PCI ids of the network card was already assigned to
> > sys-net! :-O
> 
> That's strange. When you said "the NetVM" above, I thought you were
> referring to sys-net (the default NetVM). Are we talking about more
> than one VM here?
> 
Yes, it's sys-net.

> > Note that I've already tried re-installing and starting from
> > scratch a couple of times. At every attempt, all is ok until I
> > touch something withing the default fedora-23 template. :-(
> 
> This suggests that you might be doing something wrong when you
> manipulate the template. Perhaps you could provide a precise list of
> the steps you perform that affect the template?
> 
It turned out to be something similar/related to this:
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/1449

I.e., too few (contiguous?) memory to start a VM with PCI devices
passed through to it.

This is a not so new laptop, with 8GB RAM. As I said, some of the time,
even without modifying anything, sys-net and sys-usb just can't get
started. Others, they do.

If I balloon down dom0 before trying to starting them, like this:

xl mem-set 0 1500

everything works. So far, instead of touching swiotlb, I've worked it
around by passing "dom0_mem=1536,max:4096".

With this, system VMs start at boot, and this is enough for me right
now.

Thanks and Regards,
Dario
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