Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes support Secure Boot

2017-12-02 Thread Leo Gaspard
On 12/02/2017 03:11 AM, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > On 11/23/2017 07:55 AM, Leo Gaspard wrote: > >> Can you please avoid ranting against secure boot once again? >> >> Secure boot is *not* useless. It *does* bring security benefits, >> although not as good as measured boot with a TPM: it requires an >

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes support Secure Boot

2017-12-01 Thread taii...@gmx.com
On 11/23/2017 07:55 AM, Leo Gaspard wrote: Can you please avoid ranting against secure boot once again? Secure boot is *not* useless. It *does* bring security benefits, although not as good as measured boot with a TPM: it requires an additional flaw somewhere in the {BIOS, bootloader} to bypass

AW: Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes support Secure Boot

2017-12-01 Thread '[799]' via qubes-users
Gesendet von ProtonMail mobile Original-Nachricht An 1. Dez. 2017, 17:15, Andrew Eason schrieb: > Couloutac mentioned Richard Stallman's comments. I was curious what he said, > so I looked it up. > > There is an addendum at the bottom to his original essay. > > from the bottom

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes support Secure Boot

2017-12-01 Thread Andrew Eason
Couloutac mentioned Richard Stallman's comments. I was curious what he said, so I looked it up. There is an addendum at the bottom to his original essay. from the bottom of the essay at https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/can-you-trust.html (I added a * to the most relevant line): As of 2015, treach

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes support Secure Boot

2017-11-30 Thread xephael
Thanks for the replies. I generally dislike secure boot, and even UEFI. I was mainly asking since I couldn't find a clear answer...and if it was possible, why not do it! Other distributions use a shim bootloader signed with a Microsoft key. It might be adventitious for QubesOS to do the same

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes support Secure Boot

2017-11-28 Thread cooloutac
On Thursday, November 23, 2017 at 7:55:21 AM UTC-5, Leo Gaspard wrote: > On 11/23/2017 03:35 AM, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > > On 11/22/2017 07:25 PM, xeph...@gmail.com wrote: > >> This is quite late, but now that UEFI is supported...is secure boot?  > >> Wasn't quite sure what key or signature to imp

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes support Secure Boot

2017-11-28 Thread cooloutac
> > > This is quite late, but now that UEFI is supported...is secure boot? > > Wasn't quite sure what key or signature to import. > Why are all the newbies here so obsessed with a microsoft technology? > > Just shut it off, it provides no benefit to you. If their code is so > great and benefic

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes support Secure Boot

2017-11-23 Thread Leo Gaspard
On 11/23/2017 03:35 AM, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > On 11/22/2017 07:25 PM, xeph...@gmail.com wrote: >> This is quite late, but now that UEFI is supported...is secure boot?  >> Wasn't quite sure what key or signature to import. > Why are all the newbies here so obsessed with a microsoft technology? >

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes support Secure Boot

2017-11-22 Thread taii...@gmx.com
On 11/22/2017 07:25 PM, xeph...@gmail.com wrote: This is quite late, but now that UEFI is supported...is secure boot? Wasn't quite sure what key or signature to import. Why are all the newbies here so obsessed with a microsoft technology? Just shut it off, it provides no benefit to you. If t

[qubes-users] Re: Qubes support Secure Boot

2017-11-22 Thread xephael
This is quite late, but now that UEFI is supported...is secure boot? Wasn't quite sure what key or signature to import. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an em