[qubes-users] Re: SystemD sucks - qubes shouldn't use it

2017-03-14 Thread cooloutac
On Sunday, March 12, 2017 at 9:16:16 PM UTC-4, Drew White wrote: > On Saturday, 11 March 2017 05:09:26 UTC+11, cooloutac wrote: > > On Friday, March 10, 2017 at 1:14:47 AM UTC-5, Drew White wrote: > > > On Friday, 10 March 2017 15:36:49 UTC+11, cooloutac wrote: > > > > My problem with Qubes is

[qubes-users] Re: SystemD sucks - qubes shouldn't use it

2017-03-12 Thread Drew White
On Saturday, 11 March 2017 05:09:26 UTC+11, cooloutac wrote: > On Friday, March 10, 2017 at 1:14:47 AM UTC-5, Drew White wrote: > > On Friday, 10 March 2017 15:36:49 UTC+11, cooloutac wrote: > > > My problem with Qubes is that i'm still noob. I don't even know what > > > alot of system

Re: [qubes-users] Re: SystemD sucks - qubes shouldn't use it

2017-03-12 Thread Drew White
On Saturday, 11 March 2017 07:35:42 UTC+11, Jean-Philippe Ouellet wrote: > On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 1:14 AM, Drew White wrote: > > I wrote my own applications for qubes because the developers wouldn't fix > > things and didn't change things to use less RAM. > > I wrote my

Re: [qubes-users] Re: SystemD sucks - qubes shouldn't use it

2017-03-10 Thread Jean-Philippe Ouellet
On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 1:14 AM, Drew White wrote: > I wrote my own applications for qubes because the developers wouldn't fix > things and didn't change things to use less RAM. > I wrote my own manager that uses only 200 MB VRAM, instead of the current one > that uses

[qubes-users] Re: SystemD sucks - qubes shouldn't use it

2017-03-10 Thread cooloutac
On Friday, March 10, 2017 at 1:14:47 AM UTC-5, Drew White wrote: > On Friday, 10 March 2017 15:36:49 UTC+11, cooloutac wrote: > > My problem with Qubes is that i'm still noob. I don't even know what alot > > of system processes are or what they do. Qubes is more complicated then a > > normal

Re: [qubes-users] Re: SystemD sucks - qubes shouldn't use it

2017-03-10 Thread Holger Levsen
On Thu, Mar 09, 2017 at 10:06:24PM -0800, Drew White wrote: > systemd is bad, things were simpler and easier without it. you think having a 1000 ways to start deamons (written and maintained by a 1000 people) is more secure and simpler? That's a curious POV… -- cheers, Holger -- You

[qubes-users] Re: SystemD sucks - qubes shouldn't use it

2017-03-09 Thread Drew White
On Friday, 10 March 2017 15:36:49 UTC+11, cooloutac wrote: > My problem with Qubes is that i'm still noob. I don't even know what alot of > system processes are or what they do. Qubes is more complicated then a normal > os even just to monitor network traffic. I'm mostly in the dark compared

[qubes-users] Re: SystemD sucks - qubes shouldn't use it

2017-03-09 Thread Drew White
On Friday, 10 March 2017 15:25:26 UTC+11, cooloutac wrote: > Well I'm just a layman but from my little experience i prefer systemd cause > its easier to handle running system processes. but from bootup time > standpoint it seems to make no diff. > systemd is bad, things were simpler and

[qubes-users] Re: SystemD sucks - qubes shouldn't use it

2017-03-09 Thread cooloutac
My problem with Qubes is that i'm still noob. I don't even know what alot of system processes are or what they do. Qubes is more complicated then a normal os even just to monitor network traffic. I'm mostly in the dark compared to on bare metal os. I'm basically at mercy of a default setup

[qubes-users] Re: SystemD sucks - qubes shouldn't use it

2017-03-09 Thread cooloutac
Well I'm just a layman but from my little experience i prefer systemd cause its easier to handle running system processes. but from bootup time standpoint it seems to make no diff. I dunno what it is. I started linux with fedora but itseems it started to get super buggy after fedora19 to the

[qubes-users] Re: SystemD sucks - qubes shouldn't use it

2017-03-09 Thread Drew White
On Thursday, 9 March 2017 00:51:06 UTC+11, tai...@gmx.com wrote: > I realize that it is an integral part of fedora and debian (gross), but > it is a serious security hole and qubes should consider migrating away > from it by maybe choosing another orgin distro. >

[qubes-users] Re: SystemD sucks - qubes shouldn't use it

2017-03-08 Thread Daniel Moerner
On Wednesday, March 8, 2017 at 8:51:06 AM UTC-5, tai...@gmx.com wrote: > I realize that it is an integral part of fedora and debian (gross), but > it is a serious security hole and qubes should consider migrating away > from it by maybe choosing another orgin distro. It would be helpful for you