Re: [qubes-users] Whonix 14 - upgrade or re-install? Whats more smooth, less troublesome?

2018-08-22 Thread qubes-fan
Thank you mate :) Aug 17, 2018, 2:41 PM by qubes-users@googlegroups.com: > On Thu, August 16, 2018 11:28 am, > qubes-...@tutanota.com > > wrote: > >> Hi Patrick, I summed up how I understand it. Correct me if I am wrong: >> >> >> - I back up the whonix(13) VMs

Re: [qubes-users] Whonix 14 - upgrade or re-install? Whats more smooth, less troublesome?

2018-08-17 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users
On Thu, August 16, 2018 11:28 am, qubes-...@tutanota.com wrote: > Hi Patrick, I summed up how I understand it. Correct me if I am wrong: > > > - I back up the whonix(13) VMs of choice > - I clone the sys-whonix, anon-whonix, whonix-ws and whonix-gw to -backup > (whonix-gw is a base template for

Re: [qubes-users] Whonix 14 - upgrade or re-install? Whats more smooth, less troublesome?

2018-08-17 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users
On Thu, August 16, 2018 10:57 am, qubes-...@tutanota.com wrote: > Hi Patrick, should one switch the Qubes Tor networking backed normally by > the sys-whonix to newly created sys-whonix-backup? It make sense to > update/upgrade whonix through Tor. thx That's how I did mine too. -- You received

Re: [qubes-users] Whonix 14 - upgrade or re-install? Whats more smooth, less troublesome?

2018-08-16 Thread qubes-fan
Hi Patrick, I summed up how I understand it. Correct me if I am wrong: - I back up the whonix(13) VMs of choice - I clone the sys-whonix, anon-whonix, whonix-ws and whonix-gw to -backup (whonix-gw is a base template for the sys whonix, and must be deleted before install procedure too, right?)

Re: [qubes-users] Whonix 14 - upgrade or re-install? Whats more smooth, less troublesome?

2018-08-16 Thread Patrick Schleizer
qubes-...@tutanota.com: > Hi Patrick, should one switch the Qubes Tor networking backed normally by the > sys-whonix to newly created sys-whonix-backup? It make sense to > update/upgrade whonix through Tor. > thx If you manage to do that, sure. -- You received this message because you are

Re: [qubes-users] Whonix 14 - upgrade or re-install? Whats more smooth, less troublesome?

2018-08-16 Thread qubes-fan
Hi Patrick, should one switch the Qubes Tor networking backed normally by the sys-whonix to newly created sys-whonix-backup? It make sense to update/upgrade whonix through Tor. thx Aug 14, 2018, 10:10 PM by patrick-mailingli...@whonix.org: > This is completely untested. Let me know what you

Re: [qubes-users] Whonix 14 - upgrade or re-install? Whats more smooth, less troublesome?

2018-08-15 Thread Patrick Schleizer
Franz: > On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 1:55 PM, Patrick Schleizer < > patrick-mailingli...@whonix.org> wrote: > >> Franz: >>> when I try to uninstall whonix-ws >>> >>> sudo dnf remove qubes-template-whonix-ws* >>> >>> I get >>> No match for argument: qubes-template-whonix-ws* >>> Error: No packages

Re: [qubes-users] Whonix 14 - upgrade or re-install? Whats more smooth, less troublesome?

2018-08-15 Thread Franz
On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 1:55 PM, Patrick Schleizer < patrick-mailingli...@whonix.org> wrote: > Franz: > > when I try to uninstall whonix-ws > > > > sudo dnf remove qubes-template-whonix-ws* > > > > I get > > No match for argument: qubes-template-whonix-ws* > > Error: No packages marked for

Re: [qubes-users] Whonix 14 - upgrade or re-install? Whats more smooth, less troublesome?

2018-08-14 Thread Patrick Schleizer
This is completely untested. Let me know what you think and if this works for you. * A backup of all Qubes VMs using the usual Qubes backup mechanism (independent from below) is advisable anyhow. * One who mind about their contents could clone their sys-whonix to sys-whonix-backup and clone

Re: [qubes-users] Whonix 14 - upgrade or re-install? Whats more smooth, less troublesome?

2018-08-14 Thread Patrick Schleizer
Thank you for looking into this! Chris Laprise: > It was a bit confusing, but from the wiki Install page I picked out > these relevant steps for dom0 (Qubes 4.0): > > $ sudo qubes-dom0-update qubes-core-admin-addon-whonix > $ sudo qubesctl state.sls qvm.anon-whonix > > The second command will

Re: [qubes-users] Whonix 14 - upgrade or re-install? Whats more smooth, less troublesome?

2018-08-14 Thread Patrick Schleizer
Andrew David Wong: > On 2018-08-12 14:26, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote: >> On Sun, August 12, 2018 6:16 pm, qubes-...@tutanota.com wrote: >>> I am planning to move from my Whonix 13 to Whonix 14 on Qubes. My >>> question is what way it should be easier, based on the Q user >>> experiences. What

Re: [qubes-users] Whonix 14 - upgrade or re-install? Whats more smooth, less troublesome?

2018-08-14 Thread Patrick Schleizer
Franz: > when I try to uninstall whonix-ws > > sudo dnf remove qubes-template-whonix-ws* > > I get > No match for argument: qubes-template-whonix-ws* > Error: No packages marked for removal > > I followed this guide: https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Qubes/Uninstall > Output of...? dnf list |

Re: [qubes-users] Whonix 14 - upgrade or re-install? Whats more smooth, less troublesome?

2018-08-14 Thread Franz
On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 8:15 AM, wrote: > Thanks Chris. If you dont mind, could you please elaborate more on your > procedure which worked for you? These two guides are a bit confusing to > follow. > > What I understand from your text is following: > > 1) you followed the guide on whonix page

Re: [qubes-users] Whonix 14 - upgrade or re-install? Whats more smooth, less troublesome?

2018-08-14 Thread qubes-fan
Thanks Chris. If you dont mind, could you please elaborate more on your procedure which worked for you? These two guides are a bit confusing to follow. What I understand from your text is following: 1) you followed the guide on whonix page (not the one on qubes page) Q:

Re: [qubes-users] Whonix 14 - upgrade or re-install? Whats more smooth, less troublesome?

2018-08-13 Thread Chris Laprise
On 08/13/2018 07:32 AM, qubes-...@tutanota.com wrote: Chris, which guide did you follow when installing the new whonix 14 Template as a "recommended whonix install procedure"? I found these two. http://dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/wiki/Qubes/Install#

Re: [qubes-users] Whonix 14 - upgrade or re-install? Whats more smooth, less troublesome?

2018-08-13 Thread qubes-fan
Chris, which guide did you follow when installing the new whonix 14 Template as a "recommended whonix install procedure"? I found these two. http://dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/wiki/Qubes/Install#

Re: [qubes-users] Whonix 14 - upgrade or re-install? Whats more smooth, less troublesome?

2018-08-13 Thread qubes-fan
This sounds very interesting Chris. This could be the way around the "loss of VM data" during the install process and push the INSTALL over UPGRADE decission. Did you do the same with the whonix-gw too? Aug 13, 2018, 2:48 AM by tas...@posteo.net: > On 08/12/2018 05:23 PM, Andrew David Wong

Re: [qubes-users] Whonix 14 - upgrade or re-install? Whats more smooth, less troublesome?

2018-08-12 Thread Franz
On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 9:48 PM, Chris Laprise wrote: > On 08/12/2018 05:23 PM, Andrew David Wong wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA512 >> >> On 2018-08-12 14:26, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote: >> >>> On Sun, August 12, 2018 6:16 pm, qubes-...@tutanota.com wrote: >>>

Re: [qubes-users] Whonix 14 - upgrade or re-install? Whats more smooth, less troublesome?

2018-08-12 Thread Chris Laprise
On 08/12/2018 05:23 PM, Andrew David Wong wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2018-08-12 14:26, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote: On Sun, August 12, 2018 6:16 pm, qubes-...@tutanota.com wrote: I am planning to move from my Whonix 13 to Whonix 14 on Qubes. My question is

Re: [qubes-users] Whonix 14 - upgrade or re-install? Whats more smooth, less troublesome?

2018-08-12 Thread Andrew David Wong
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2018-08-12 14:26, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote: > On Sun, August 12, 2018 6:16 pm, qubes-...@tutanota.com wrote: >> I am planning to move from my Whonix 13 to Whonix 14 on Qubes. My >> question is what way it should be easier, based on the Q

Re: [qubes-users] Whonix 14 - upgrade or re-install? Whats more smooth, less troublesome?

2018-08-12 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users
On Sun, August 12, 2018 6:16 pm, qubes-...@tutanota.com wrote: > I am planning to move from my Whonix 13 to Whonix 14 on Qubes. My > question is what way it should be easier, based on the Q user > experiences. What would you propose - upgrade or re-install? Are there > any known issues which would

[qubes-users] Whonix 14 - upgrade or re-install? Whats more smooth, less troublesome?

2018-08-12 Thread qubes-fan
I am planning to move from my Whonix 13 to Whonix 14 on Qubes. My question is what way it should be easier, based on the Q user experiences. What would you propose - upgrade or re-install? Are there any known issues which would call for one or other way? I have few VMs based on the Whonix