Re: [ntp:questions] NTP Dictionary

2008-01-02 Thread Rod Dorman
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David L. Mills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Same time I changed in step with common electrical engineering practice >from capacitator to capacitor, yea from megacycle to megahertz. Yeah but a megahertz crossing the wheatstone bridge just isn't as funny. --

Re: [ntp:questions] Lep seconds

2008-01-02 Thread Unruh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >I don't want to step on anyones toes but I am getting >a lot of heat over using a POSIX compliant ntp re leap >seconds. The 1 second error inserted can cause a lot >of trouble. Exactly what heat are you getting and what trouble is it causing you? Perhaps if you tell u

[ntp:questions] Seeking "net time" Response without Active Directory

2008-01-02 Thread gcatlin
We use a pc punchclock that relies on the "net time" command. We are a netware/linux shop and use an ntp time source, however, we do not use Active Directory. So far have been unable to make the punchclock work. Is there any way we can respond with the time when the punchclock requests "net time

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP Dictionary

2008-01-02 Thread David L. Mills
Greg, Same time I changed in step with common electrical engineering practice from capacitator to capacitor, yea from megacycle to megahertz. Dave Greg Dowd wrote: > When did this change from proventic to provenentic? Or has all the > eggnog made me fuzzy? > > > > provenentic. Formally, this i

Re: [ntp:questions] Leap second bug?

2008-01-02 Thread Unruh
"Richard B. Gilbert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >Unruh wrote: >> "Richard B. Gilbert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> ... >> >>>A good way to learn what's good and bad is to use a hardware reference >>>clock such as a GPS receiver. A timing receiver with PPS output will >>>generally keep t

[ntp:questions] Lep seconds

2008-01-02 Thread marknmbox-88
I don't want to step on anyones toes but I am getting a lot of heat over using a POSIX compliant ntp re leap seconds. The 1 second error inserted can cause a lot of trouble. I now that the Olsen mod changes most Unix/Linux time processing to handle the leap second in a theoretically correct mann

Re: [ntp:questions] Leap second bug?

2008-01-02 Thread Richard B. Gilbert
Unruh wrote: > "Richard B. Gilbert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > ... > >>A good way to learn what's good and bad is to use a hardware reference >>clock such as a GPS receiver. A timing receiver with PPS output will >>generally keep the leading edge of the PPS within 50 microseconds of the >

Re: [ntp:questions] Leap second bug?

2008-01-02 Thread Unruh
"Richard B. Gilbert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: ... >A good way to learn what's good and bad is to use a hardware reference >clock such as a GPS receiver. A timing receiver with PPS output will >generally keep the leading edge of the PPS within 50 microseconds of the >"top of the second". The

Re: [ntp:questions] Leap second bug?

2008-01-02 Thread Richard B. Gilbert
Spoon wrote: > Richard B. Gilbert wrote: > >> Spoon wrote: >> >>> ntpd kicked my clock forward one second on January 1 at 00:19:38 UTC. >>> >>> (My ntp.conf lists 12 servers. Delays range from 28 to 48 ms.) >> >> >> Unless you have a custom version of ntpd, > > > I didn't modify the source in an

Re: [ntp:questions] Bizzare half second disagreement between ntp hosts

2008-01-02 Thread Unruh
Brian Utterback <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >Unruh wrote: >> I have a very weird situation. I am running a GPS PPS (Garmin GPS18LVM) >> with a few machines as a backup/initialization. >> >> Sudeenly for about half and hour, my GPS failed for some reason ( still do >> not know what was wrong sinc

Re: [ntp:questions] Leap second bug?

2008-01-02 Thread Spoon
Richard B. Gilbert wrote: > Spoon wrote: > >> ntpd kicked my clock forward one second on January 1 at 00:19:38 UTC. >> >> (My ntp.conf lists 12 servers. Delays range from 28 to 48 ms.) > > Unless you have a custom version of ntpd, I didn't modify the source in any way. > I believe that ten se

[ntp:questions] NTP Dictionary

2008-01-02 Thread Greg Dowd
When did this change from proventic to provenentic? Or has all the eggnog made me fuzzy? provenentic. Formally, this is the relation formed from the transitive closure of the authentic relation. This comes from Autokey slang. Greg Dowd gdowd at symmetricom dot com (antispam format) Symme

Re: [ntp:questions] 2008 resolution

2008-01-02 Thread Steve Kostecke
On 2008-01-01, Tony Rutkowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Danny, > >>What are you referring to? Your message doesn't say anything. > > [ntp:questions] M'I-5'Per secution ' abuse in set- up situa tions > an d in p ublic > > By any measure, this guy is off topic and > over the top. > >

Re: [ntp:questions] 2008 resolution

2008-01-02 Thread Steve Kostecke
On 2008-01-02, Danny Mayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tony Rutkowski wrote: > >> ATTRIBUTION MISSING wrote: >> >>> What are you referring to? Your message doesn't say anything. >> >> [ntp:questions] M'I-5'Per secution ' abuse in set- up situa tions an >> d in p ublic >> >> By any measure, this g

[ntp:questions] bc635pci

2008-01-02 Thread Greg Dowd
Hi Brian, Sorry I missed that last email. It was hectic towards the end of the year. We use plenty of 2.6 linux with the board. If you know how to write linux kernel drivers, it's a slam dunk. If you don't, it's still pretty straightforward. First and foremost, read online or buy the Linux

Re: [ntp:questions] Leap second bug?

2008-01-02 Thread Richard B. Gilbert
Spoon wrote: > Hello everyone, > > ntpd kicked my clock forward one second on January 1 at 00:19:38 UTC. > > (My ntp.conf lists 12 servers. Delays range from 28 to 48 ms.) > Unless you have a custom version of ntpd, I believe that ten servers is the absolute maximum! I believe that ntpd will

[ntp:questions] Leap second bug?

2008-01-02 Thread Spoon
Hello everyone, ntpd kicked my clock forward one second on January 1 at 00:19:38 UTC. (My ntp.conf lists 12 servers. Delays range from 28 to 48 ms.) Dec 31 23:25:39 offset 0.000329 sec freq -6.715 ppm error 0.000333 poll 8 Dec 31 23:28:39 offset 0.000329 sec freq -6.715 ppm error 0.000340 poll 8

Re: [ntp:questions] Symmetricon bc635PCI-U

2008-01-02 Thread Fran Horan
"cookie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Hello- >I have been messing with my old Symmetricom bc635PCI-U, > and was wondering if anyone on the list was successfully > using it with NTP/Linux 2.6. Take a look at reference clock #16 (http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills

Re: [ntp:questions] Bizzare half second disagreement between ntp hosts

2008-01-02 Thread Brian Utterback
Unruh wrote: > I have a very weird situation. I am running a GPS PPS (Garmin GPS18LVM) > with a few machines as a backup/initialization. > > Sudeenly for about half and hour, my GPS failed for some reason ( still do > not know what was wrong since it had come back on air by the time I noticed > s

[ntp:questions] M`I'5-Persecution ` BB C h2g 2 onli ne

2008-01-02 Thread imfmevi
BBC. h2g2 16/Sept/1999 The BBC's. h2g2 website is billed as "Earth Edition of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy!". Naturally, one of its pages is about me, me,. me. It starts off with the lines; Every now. and then something comes along which makes you think "Ah! That's what the Internet. i

Re: [ntp:questions] Why does the "Conrad parallel port radio clock" driver has a standard offset of 0.1725s?

2008-01-02 Thread Martin Burnicki
Hi, Folkert van Heusden wrote: > While going through the documentation we found that the "Conrad parallel > port radio clock" driver has a default offset calibration factor of > 0.1725s. > Why is that specific factor chosen? I bet this has been determined by a measurement. The DCF77 amplitude is

[ntp:questions] M'I-5 Persecuti on ' haras sment at wo rk

2008-01-02 Thread emimeivf
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