Re: [ntp:questions] Why do many time servers time out on queries from ntpq -p?

2008-04-12 Thread Steve Kostecke
On 2008-04-12, Ryan Malayter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Apr 12, 12:29 am, Steve Kostecke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> The server operator has set a 'noquery' restriction. > > I'll try to pre-emptively answer the next question, [which] is likely to > be "why would they do that?" > > The ans

Re: [ntp:questions] Problem with time synchronisaton

2008-04-12 Thread Steve Kostecke
On 2008-04-12, Richard B. Gilbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > BTW, if you didn't wait at least 30 minutes between starting ntpd and > getting the ntpq banner, you wasted your time! Nonsense. After only two polls you can see if your ntpd is able to contact the remote time servers. You don't nee

Re: [ntp:questions] Problem with time synchronisaton

2008-04-12 Thread Hal Murray
>The problem here is that the distribution does not contain a decent >assortment of example configuration files for common configurations. So >the OS distributors/aggregators/vendors each cobble together their own >one size fits all configuration file. But does a local refclock make sense in a ty

Re: [ntp:questions] Problem with time synchronisaton

2008-04-12 Thread Steve Kostecke
On 2008-04-12, David Woolley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Harlan Stenn wrote: > >> Why do you have a local refclock configured? > > Because he's using an out of the box configuration. That, is probably > the main reason that people have them configured. You really need to > ask the people who put

Re: [ntp:questions] Problem with time synchronisaton

2008-04-12 Thread David Woolley
Harlan Stenn wrote: > > Why do you have a local refclock configured? Because he's using an out of the box configuration. That, is probably the main reason that people have them configured. You really need to ask the people who put in the box, but I suspect they don't know, either. __

Re: [ntp:questions] Problem with time synchronisaton

2008-04-12 Thread Harlan Stenn
>>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Richard B. Gilbert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> writes: Richard> BTW, if you didn't wait at least 30 minutes between starting ntpd Richard> and getting the ntpq banner, you wasted your time! Ntpd generally Richard> requires about that much time to figure out exac

Re: [ntp:questions] Problem with time synchronisaton

2008-04-12 Thread Harlan Stenn
Tony, Why do you have a local refclock configured? Why are you not using the 'iburst' keyword on your server lines? Have you seen http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Support/ConfiguringNTP ? -- Harlan Stenn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ntpforum.isc.org - be a member! __

Re: [ntp:questions] Problem with time synchronisaton

2008-04-12 Thread Steve Kostecke
On 2008-04-12, David Woolley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> I have ntpd installed (ntpq [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jun 4 15:13:06 UTC >> 2007 > > That is not a standard version number. Really? On my system running 4.2.5p54 built from sources downloaded from www.ntp.org I se

Re: [ntp:questions] Problem with time synchronisaton

2008-04-12 Thread Richard B. Gilbert
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Greetings, > > I have ntpd installed (ntpq [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jun 4 15:13:06 UTC 2007 > (1) and running but the time on the ntp host does not appear to be > synching with the nominated external time references. Any assistance much > appreciated. > > Details as f

Re: [ntp:questions] Why do many time servers time out on queries from ntpq -p?

2008-04-12 Thread Ryan Malayter
On Apr 12, 12:29 am, Steve Kostecke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The server operator has set a 'noquery' restriction. I'll try to pre-emptively answer the next question, whcih is likely to be "why would they do that?" The answer is security. On our network, we follow the principle of least privel

Re: [ntp:questions] Linux 11-minute mode (RTC update)

2008-04-12 Thread Serge Bets
On Wednesday, April 9, 2008 at 18:18:15 +, Unruh wrote: > But when one is advising someone, one must assume that they have at > least the typical if not the worst condition That's not false... > How in the world did you the power off drift to 5 significant figures? With two hwclock --syst

Re: [ntp:questions] Problem with time synchronisaton

2008-04-12 Thread David Woolley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have ntpd installed (ntpq [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jun 4 15:13:06 UTC 2007 That is not a standard version number. Who allocated the "@1.1570-o" part of the version number? You may be better off getting support from them. > (1) and running but the time on the ntp h

Re: [ntp:questions] Time slew doesn't seem to work

2008-04-12 Thread Hal Murray
>Do you know any code that cares if that is wrong by 10% (which would be >10PPM) Ie, is 10% error insane? >Is 1% (1PPM)? >Ie, .05% seems a bit extreme for that. I used to do a lot of performance measurements. For the stuff I was doing, 10% is easy to spot. 1% is borderline. -- These

Re: [ntp:questions] Linux 11-minute mode (RTC update)

2008-04-12 Thread Serge Bets
On Thursday, April 10, 2008 at 18:02:38 +0100, Maciej W. Rozycki wrote: >> This holds the clock for up to a second > I am not sure what you mean Anyway I experimented a little: This doesn't seem to work as I hoped. And it can even lock the clock, requiring a oscillator reset. :-( The idea was a

Re: [ntp:questions] Ntp in peer configuration

2008-04-12 Thread David Woolley
Ginni Misra wrote: > I am trying to use NTP in peer configuration. No. You are trying to use NTP in an orphaned configuration, which has never had any parents! NTP was not designed for that, although recent additions (ophan mode) make it just about workable. Timed was designed for that, so

Re: [ntp:questions] Time slew doesn't seem to work

2008-04-12 Thread David Woolley
Unruh wrote: > > Do you know any code that cares if that is wrong by 10% (which would be > 10PPM) Ie, is 10% error insane? > RTP. Anything measuring speeds based on crossing starting and ending thresholds. ___ questions mailing list questions@lis