David Woolley schreef:
Sami al flaish wrote:
I have a problem with the NTP. 1- I am using machine where the
timezone set to (GMT) Casablanca mandatory.
Morocco is no longer on GMT in Summer.
I'm afraid you're only confusing the issue. (GMT) Casablanca probably
refers to a timezone
Nero Imhard wrote:
To the OP: Do not get confused, but please, please, please understand
that NTP has no business at all with local time
If I read the initial posting again it seems to me the OP wants to set the
computer's time zone to UTC (On my Windows 2000 system Casablanca is
labelled
Bill,
Bill Unruh wrote:
A question has arisen in another group-- What happens if, when ntp starts
up, the remoter server is unavailable ( eg no DNS or no connection)?
This is highly likely to be the case for a laptop for example, where the
connection with the local network is only brought up
Uwe Klein wrote:
Steve Kostecke wrote:
The GPS 18 LVC costs less than $70. Add to that the time for someone to
work out the wiring and solder up the connector (well under an hour for
a competant tech).
If you ask Garmin Europe for a quote : ~190Euro + VAT Grrr.
Huh???
I bought (i.e.
Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
Hal Murray wrote:
The Garmin GPS 18 LVC is popular. Some assembly required.
(aka soldering) No big deal if somebody has a soldering iron
handy. There are a couple of links from here:
http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Support/InexpensiveOemGps
You will need a
Terje Mathisen wrote:
Uwe Klein wrote:
Steve Kostecke wrote:
The GPS 18 LVC costs less than $70. Add to that the time for someone to
work out the wiring and solder up the connector (well under an hour for
a competant tech).
If you ask Garmin Europe for a quote : ~190Euro + VAT Grrr.
Terje Mathisen wrote:
Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
Hal Murray wrote:
The Garmin GPS 18 LVC is popular. Some assembly required.
(aka soldering) No big deal if somebody has a soldering iron
handy. There are a couple of links from here:
Steve Kostecke [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On 2008-09-11, Bill Unruh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A question has arisen in another group-- What happens if, when ntp starts
up, the remoter server is unavailable ( eg no DNS or no connection)?
This is highly likely to be the case for a laptop for
Uwe Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Steve Kostecke wrote:
The GPS 18 LVC costs less than $70. Add to that the time for someone to
work out the wiring and solder up the connector (well under an hour for
a competant tech).
If you ask Garmin Europe for a quote : ~190Euro + VAT Grrr.
Wow!
Martin Burnicki [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Bill,
Bill Unruh wrote:
A question has arisen in another group-- What happens if, when ntp starts
up, the remoter server is unavailable ( eg no DNS or no connection)?
This is highly likely to be the case for a laptop for example, where the
connection
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Bill Unruh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Joseph Gwinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Murray) wrote:
I'm not a sysadmin, but am digging into service. I don't recall that
the service man page was that helpful,
Hal Murray wrote:
There are a lot of low cost USB GPS gizmos that use the
SiRF Star III. They suck for timekeeping.
Is there a reason known for this?
uwe
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On Sep 12, 8:31 am, Unruh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sounds great. So, let me say I have pool.ntp.org as a server. when my
system comes up (a desktop) the network interface is there, but the dns
server is still dead, and the gateway is still dead. Ie, no address for
pool can be gotten from dns.
Uwe Klein wrote:
Hal Murray wrote:
There are a lot of low cost USB GPS gizmos that use the
SiRF Star III. They suck for timekeeping.
Is there a reason known for this?
No PPS signal.
Terje
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almost all programming can be viewed as an exercise in caching
Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
Terje Mathisen wrote:
Using a USB port for the +5V line is the canonical solution: Very
cheap, dependable, and no extra wall warts.
Terje
I have read claims here that the high and unpredictable latencies in USB
render it useless for time keeping!
Sure, but
On 2008-09-12, Evandro Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sep 12, 8:31 am, Unruh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sounds great. So, let me say I have pool.ntp.org as a server. when
my system comes up (a desktop) the network interface is there, but
the dns server is still dead, and the gateway is
No I suspect you ran /usr/sbin/ntpd, not /etc/init.d/ntpd
/etc/init.d/ntpd start should do EXACTLY the same thing as when the system
runs it on bootup.
If I recall, the line that worked was /etc/init.d/ntpd -c filename of
our ntp.conf file. I don't recall that sbin was involved.
Running
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Unruh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Unruh Steve Kostecke [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On 2008-09-11, Bill Unruh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A question has arisen in another group-- What happens if, when ntp
starts up, the remoter server is unavailable ( eg no DNS or no
David Woolley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Dave Close wrote:
What I haven't found while reading is how it is possible for a server to
be both reachable and rejected. Note that the reject condition is not
That's quite easy, but I can't see a case which applies here (using a
not recently
Harlan Stenn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Unruh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Unruh Steve Kostecke [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On 2008-09-11, Bill Unruh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A question has arisen in another group-- What happens if, when ntp
starts up, the remoter
On 2008-09-12, Dave Close [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
# ntpq -p
remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter
==
server1 172.16.2.5 2 u 24 64 3772.159 -51835.
Evandro Menezes wrote:
On Sep 12, 8:31 am, Unruh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sounds great. So, let me say I have pool.ntp.org as a server. when my
system comes up (a desktop) the network interface is there, but the dns
server is still dead, and the gateway is still dead. Ie, no address for
pool
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Uwe Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hal Murray wrote:
There are a lot of low cost USB GPS gizmos that use the
SiRF Star III. They suck for timekeeping.
Is there a reason known for this?
I assume it's a software bug/feature. The problem is drift/wander
in
Dave Close wrote:
dstadr=192.168.58.250, dstport=123, leap=00, stratum=2, precision=-7,
Precision -7 is poor, but possibly a contra-indication for the main
hypothesis as I believe that w32time is normally even worse, at -6.
rootdelay=0.000, rootdispersion=14089.630, refid=172.16.2.5,
Howard Barina wrote:
Does an NTP servers take into account it's estimated offset in serving time
There seem to have been a lot of questions asked in the last month that
are based on the false assumption that offset measures the difference
between the local clock and true time. Has someone
David Woolley wrote:
Howard Barina wrote:
Does an NTP servers take into account it's estimated offset in serving
time
There seem to have been a lot of questions asked in the last month that
are based on the false assumption that offset measures the difference
between the local clock
Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
David Woolley wrote:
There are people who who argue that the NTP algorithms are
fundamentally flawed and don't give the statistically best time in
real world situations. I think they have some credibility, but NTP's
inventor, does not.
I hope you did not
Richard B. Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Evandro Menezes wrote:
On Sep 12, 8:31 am, Unruh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sounds great. So, let me say I have pool.ntp.org as a server. when my
system comes up (a desktop) the network interface is there, but the dns
server is still dead, and the
Richard B. Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
David Woolley wrote:
Howard Barina wrote:
Does an NTP servers take into account it's estimated offset in serving
time
There seem to have been a lot of questions asked in the last month that
are based on the false assumption that offset
Steve Kostecke wrote:
Are server1 and server2 real NTP servers? What does their ntpq -p output
look like?
I don't have access to these servers.
Richard Gilbert wrote:
The offset is large enough that ntpd would need several DAYS to work it off.
Try setting your clock to a reasonable
On 2008-09-12, David Woolley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Howard Barina wrote:
Does an NTP servers take into account it's estimated offset in serving time
to others? If I am a server and think I am 1.5 milliseconds off from true
time, will I include this in the timestamps of my ntp replies to
On 2008-09-12, Dave Close [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Steve Kostecke wrote:
Are server1 and server2 real NTP servers? What does their ntpq -p output
look like?
I don't have access to these servers.
Try 'ntpq -pcrv server[1|2]' from another system.
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NTP Public
Steve Kostecke [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Are server1 and server2 real NTP servers? What does their ntpq -p output
look like?
Try 'ntpq -pcrv server[1|2]' from another system.
# ntpq -pcrv server1
server1: timed out, nothing received
***Request timed out
server1: timed out, nothing received
Dave Close wrote:
Steve Kostecke [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Are server1 and server2 real NTP servers? What does their ntpq -p output
look like?
Try 'ntpq -pcrv server[1|2]' from another system.
# ntpq -pcrv server1
server1: timed out, nothing received
***Request timed out
server1:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Unruh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Harlan Stenn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[snip]
Unruh Did the dynamic keyword ever work? The web docs say that it is not
Unruh yet implimented.
I'm pretty sure it works - what documentation says it doesn't?
Some document on
On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:54:25 -0500, Hal Murray wrote:
I am interested in getting a GPS clock to synchronize our internal
test network. I am curious to hear about relativley cheap and Linux
friendly GPS clock. (Less than $100 would be great)
The Garmin GPS 18 LVC is popular.
The above
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