Re: [ntp:questions] Sub-millisecond NTP synchronization for local network

2008-12-07 Thread Jeremy Leibs
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 3:40 PM, Rick Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jeremy Leibs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is there possibly a way of configuring the maximum acceptable > > latency of a packet? That is, as long as you know that for some > > fraction of the day (when the system is not und

Re: [ntp:questions] Sub-millisecond NTP synchronization for local network

2008-12-07 Thread Unruh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Murray) writes: >>Obviously using something like the number of cpu cycles is the wrong thing >>to use for a clock if the computer is to act as a good clock. HPET should >>solve that if only they got it set up properly. >What's wrong with using the CPU clock as a clock? Why

Re: [ntp:questions] Sub-millisecond NTP synchronization for local network

2008-12-07 Thread Unruh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Murray) writes: >>I expect the delay over the wireless link is symmetric, but it is entirely >>plausible that it is not. Are there any good utilities for analyzing the >>directional delays of the network? Or would the existence of such a tool >>get rid of some of the prob

Re: [ntp:questions] Sub-millisecond NTP synchronization for local network

2008-12-07 Thread Hal Murray
>Obviously using something like the number of cpu cycles is the wrong thing >to use for a clock if the computer is to act as a good clock. HPET should >solve that if only they got it set up properly. What's wrong with using the CPU clock as a clock? Why is HPET any better? I know of a couple of

Re: [ntp:questions] Sub-millisecond NTP synchronization for local network

2008-12-07 Thread Hal Murray
>I expect the delay over the wireless link is symmetric, but it is entirely >plausible that it is not. Are there any good utilities for analyzing the >directional delays of the network? Or would the existence of such a tool >get rid of some of the problems in and of itself. The best way to meas

Re: [ntp:questions] Sub-millisecond NTP synchronization for local network

2008-12-07 Thread Hal Murray
>Is there possibly a way of configuring the maximum acceptable latency of a >packet? That is, as long as you know that for some fraction of the day >(when the system is not under load) your latency is going to be less than >some threshold, say, 2 ms, configuring the system to just throw away all

Re: [ntp:questions] Sub-millisecond NTP synchronization for local network

2008-12-07 Thread Unruh
"Maarten Wiltink" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >"Unruh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >[...] >>> What should I be doing to get 20 us? Buy all new computers with >>> gigabit Ethernet? >> >> I suspect buying better switches. And it looks to me like you should >> definit

Re: [ntp:questions] Sub-millisecond NTP synchronization for local network

2008-12-07 Thread Kevin Oberman
> From: Terje Mathisen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 11:44:18 +0100 > Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Maarten Wiltink wrote: > > "Unruh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [...] > >>> What should I be doing to get 20 us? Buy all new computers with >

Re: [ntp:questions] Sub-millisecond NTP synchronization for local network

2008-12-07 Thread Terje Mathisen
Maarten Wiltink wrote: > "Unruh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > [...] >>> What should I be doing to get 20 us? Buy all new computers with >>> gigabit Ethernet? >> I suspect buying better switches. And it looks to me like you should >> definitely NOT go to gigabit Et

Re: [ntp:questions] Sub-millisecond NTP synchronization for local network

2008-12-07 Thread Maarten Wiltink
"Unruh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] >> What should I be doing to get 20 us? Buy all new computers with >> gigabit Ethernet? > > I suspect buying better switches. And it looks to me like you should > definitely NOT go to gigabit Ethernet if you want good timing.

Re: [ntp:questions] Sub-millisecond NTP synchronization for local network

2008-12-07 Thread Hal Murray
>OK, strange. YOu can look at www.theory.physics.ubc.ca/chrony.html to see >the delays on my network-- it is local to a university building, but all >over the building. And I see essentially no difference between computers on >one side or the other. The delays on the 100Mbs parts of the network are