[ntp:questions] Routers and NTP Timing loops

2010-06-16 Thread Jacobs, Kevin J.
I had an interesting experience with a Cisco router as ntp master 9 using itself as an NTP source and it's neighboring switch as the only other NTP source. The switch had the exact same configuration right back at the router!. So what happens? Is NTP smart enough to know that this is a bad

Re: [ntp:questions] Reference clock driver for /dev/rtc

2010-06-16 Thread Krejci, Pavel
Hi, -Original Message- From: unruh [mailto:un...@wormhole.physics.ubc.ca] Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 7:15 PM To: questions@lists.ntp.org Subject: Re: [ntp:questions] Reference clock driver for /dev/rtc On 2010-06-15, Krejci, Pavel pavel.kre...@siemens-enterprise.com wrote: Hi,

Re: [ntp:questions] Routers and NTP Timing loops

2010-06-16 Thread Maarten Wiltink
Jacobs, Kevin J. kjac...@mitre.org wrote in message news:70189427bd8ce046b781f28d29c21aee0c9bd78...@imcmbx4.mitre.org... I had an interesting experience with a Cisco router as ntp master 9 using itself as an NTP source and it's neighboring switch as the only other NTP source. The switch

Re: [ntp:questions] SNTP with 1ms of precision?

2010-06-16 Thread Marcelo Pimenta
2010/6/15 unruh un...@wormhole.physics.ubc.ca On 2010-06-14, Marcelo Pimenta marcelopiment...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everybody!! My question is about Time Accuracy of NTP/SNTP protocol. I want to know if is possible to have precision of 1ms(could be 1 ms?) using SNTP in a network with

Re: [ntp:questions] SNTP with 1ms of precision?

2010-06-16 Thread Rob
Marcelo Pimenta marcelopiment...@gmail.com wrote: The idea to have this is not overload the network asking time every second to keep my accurancy in 1ms in 100% of time. And the second reason is about how many ms your clock will be wrong in 59 sec without a frame to discipline my clock again?

Re: [ntp:questions] SNTP with 1ms of precision?

2010-06-16 Thread Marcelo Pimenta
2010/6/16 Rob nom...@example.com Marcelo Pimenta marcelopiment...@gmail.com wrote: The idea to have this is not overload the network asking time every second to keep my accurancy in 1ms in 100% of time. And the second reason is about how many ms your clock will be wrong in 59 sec without

Re: [ntp:questions] Routers and NTP Timing loops

2010-06-16 Thread David Woolley
Maarten Wiltink wrote: I don't think it breaks cycles of three or more machines. However, unless you abuse the local clock, which many packagings of ntpd do, the stratum mechanism will cut you off. ___ questions mailing list

Re: [ntp:questions] SNTP with 1ms of precision?

2010-06-16 Thread David Woolley
Marcelo Pimenta wrote: Rob, my understading about the use of SNTP and NTP is: while SNTP provides time synchronization within *one *network, NTP allows a global time You are confusing it with timed. SNTP also expects to use global time, and NTP can be used with an arbitrary timebase,

Re: [ntp:questions] SNTP with 1ms of precision?

2010-06-16 Thread Rob
Marcelo Pimenta marcelopiment...@gmail.com wrote: In my case, I have* only one* network. My Time Server is not a machine, is a meinberg GPS. In my point of view, if my source time were machines, maybe NTP could be better to find a middle line between all these machines used as time servers.

Re: [ntp:questions] SNTP with 1ms of precision?

2010-06-16 Thread Maarten Wiltink
Marcelo Pimenta marcelopiment...@gmail.com wrote in message news:aanlktilq6m8apeoasibr-o8mhwifqkfv9xyf6mudr...@mail.gmail.com... [...] The NTP algorithm is much more complicated than the SNTP algorithm. The short, short version: there is no SNTP algorithm. SNTP is NTP _without_ the algorithms.

Re: [ntp:questions] SNTP with 1ms of precision?

2010-06-16 Thread Maarten Wiltink
Marcelo Pimenta marcelopiment...@gmail.com wrote in message news:aanlktilaoduniqjgpigohpzvjcv_zmsw_tr7naj6b...@mail.gmail.com... [...] accuracy of 1ms. On a local network 100usec?? Even if we use only switches(no routers), how is that possible if I have 4 types of Latency increasing about