[ntp:questions] Selection and Clustering of candidates

2011-06-26 Thread Mischanko, Edward T
I choose to poll 15 servers on my network for time synchronization. NTP is selecting over 10 servers and clustering them. Some of the servers NTP selects have offsets that are higher than the majority; in other words, they do not have the correct time. Why are they being selected? Why are so

Re: [ntp:questions] Selection and Clustering of candidates

2011-06-26 Thread David Woolley
Mischanko, Edward T wrote: Some of the servers NTP selects have offsets that are higher than the majority; These might be the ones with the most correct time. A high offset only indicates a poor time if you are certain that the local time is absolutely correct. Why are they being

Re: [ntp:questions] Selection and Clustering of candidates

2011-06-26 Thread Mischanko, Edward T
Dave, I changed my configuration, but there is no change in operation # Miscellaneous stuff tinker allan 7 tos maxclock 5 minsane 3 As for my question on server selection, all these servers are routers on a corporate network. If 6 servers have the same offset and 3 do not which ones would you

[ntp:questions] how does jitter and round trip time affect the accuracy of the local clock?

2011-06-26 Thread chipper
How doe Jitter and round trip time affect local time clock time acccuracy? When looking at the jitter, what values would tell me that the phase noise would make the local clock in accurate? Are there any Rules of thumb to go by when looking at jitter and delay to determine local clock

Re: [ntp:questions] how does jitter and round trip time affect the accuracy of the local clock?

2011-06-26 Thread Richard B. Gilbert
On 6/26/2011 11:36 AM, chipper wrote: How doe Jitter and round trip time affect local time clock time acccuracy? They don't *affect* the accuracy, they measure it! When looking at the jitter, what values would tell me that the phase noise would make the local clock in accurate? Are there

Re: [ntp:questions] how does jitter and round trip time affect the accuracy of the local clock?

2011-06-26 Thread David Woolley
chipper wrote: If the ntp client needed to be withing .5 milliseconds of the server,how Is the server keeping perfect time? could I tell if the jitter and delay were to much to support this kind of accuracy? What percentage of the time can you tolerate the time being out by more than 500

Re: [ntp:questions] how does jitter and round trip time affect the accuracy of the local clock?

2011-06-26 Thread David Woolley
Richard B. Gilbert wrote: very high quality. In particular, GPS sends a pulse per second and one edge of that pulse is accurate to about +/- 50ns. The rest of the GPS signal tells you which second is being marked by the specified edge, leading or trailing (I've forgotten which). GPS

Re: [ntp:questions] how does jitter and round trip time affect the accuracy of the local clock?

2011-06-26 Thread Richard B. Gilbert
On 6/26/2011 3:52 PM, chipper wrote: If the ntp client needed to be withing .5 milliseconds of the server,how could I tell if the jitter and delay were to much to support this kind of accuracy? Thanks Chip snip Try it! If you are using an NTP server on the internet, it's going to be

Re: [ntp:questions] how does jitter and round trip time affect the accuracy of the local clock?

2011-06-26 Thread chipper
If the ntp client needed to be withing .5 milliseconds of the server,how could I tell if the jitter and delay were to much to support this kind of accuracy? Thanks Chip Richard B. Gilbert wrote: On 6/26/2011 11:36 AM, chipper wrote: How doe Jitter and round trip time affect local time