Re: [ntp:questions] Fwd: Re: NetBSD GPS/PPS using 4.2.6p3

2011-08-23 Thread A C
On 8/23/2011 22:26, A C wrote: On 8/23/2011 21:26, David Lord wrote: A C wrote: On 8/23/2011 15:27, unruh wrote: On 2011-08-23, Uwe Klein wrote: unruh wrote: But from his test, his system is labelling both edges. so he has bounces on the line? either that or rise/falltime is so low and no

Re: [ntp:questions] Fwd: Re: NetBSD GPS/PPS using 4.2.6p3

2011-08-23 Thread A C
On 8/23/2011 21:50, Mischanko, Edward T wrote: -Original Message- From: questions- bounces+edward.mischanko=arcelormittal@lists.ntp.org [mailto:questions- bounces+edward.mischanko=arcelormittal@lists.ntp.org] On Behalf Of A C Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 8:25 PM To: questions@li

Re: [ntp:questions] Fwd: Re: NetBSD GPS/PPS using 4.2.6p3

2011-08-23 Thread A C
On 8/23/2011 21:26, David Lord wrote: A C wrote: On 8/23/2011 15:27, unruh wrote: On 2011-08-23, Uwe Klein wrote: unruh wrote: But from his test, his system is labelling both edges. so he has bounces on the line? either that or rise/falltime is so low and noise so high that receiver hyster

Re: [ntp:questions] Fwd: Re: NetBSD GPS/PPS using 4.2.6p3

2011-08-23 Thread David Lord
A C wrote: On 8/23/2011 15:27, unruh wrote: On 2011-08-23, Uwe Klein wrote: unruh wrote: But from his test, his system is labelling both edges. so he has bounces on the line? either that or rise/falltime is so low and noise so high that receiver hysteris is not sufficient to supress multi

Re: [ntp:questions] Fwd: Re: NetBSD GPS/PPS using 4.2.6p3

2011-08-23 Thread Mischanko, Edward T
> -Original Message- > From: questions- > bounces+edward.mischanko=arcelormittal@lists.ntp.org > [mailto:questions- > bounces+edward.mischanko=arcelormittal@lists.ntp.org] On > Behalf Of A C > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 8:25 PM > To: questions@lists.ntp.org > Subject: Re: [ntp:q

Re: [ntp:questions] Fwd: Re: NetBSD GPS/PPS using 4.2.6p3

2011-08-23 Thread A C
On 8/23/2011 15:27, unruh wrote: On 2011-08-23, Uwe Klein wrote: unruh wrote: But from his test, his system is labelling both edges. so he has bounces on the line? either that or rise/falltime is so low and noise so high that receiver hysteris is not sufficient to supress multiple HL/LH ch

Re: [ntp:questions] Fwd: Re: NetBSD GPS/PPS using 4.2.6p3

2011-08-23 Thread unruh
On 2011-08-23, Uwe Klein wrote: > unruh wrote: >> But from his test, his system is labelling both edges. >> > so he has bounces on the line? > > either that or rise/falltime is so low and noise so high > that receiver hysteris is not sufficient to supress multiple > HL/LH changes? No, his test

Re: [ntp:questions] Fwd: Re: NetBSD GPS/PPS using 4.2.6p3

2011-08-23 Thread A C
On 8/23/2011 13:05, Uwe Klein wrote: unruh wrote: But from his test, his system is labelling both edges. so he has bounces on the line? either that or rise/falltime is so low and noise so high that receiver hysteris is not sufficient to supress multiple HL/LH changes? uwe I'll check the cle

Re: [ntp:questions] Fwd: Re: NetBSD GPS/PPS using 4.2.6p3

2011-08-23 Thread Uwe Klein
unruh wrote: But from his test, his system is labelling both edges. so he has bounces on the line? either that or rise/falltime is so low and noise so high that receiver hysteris is not sufficient to supress multiple HL/LH changes? uwe ___ questio

Re: [ntp:questions] Fwd: Re: NetBSD GPS/PPS using 4.2.6p3

2011-08-23 Thread unruh
On 2011-08-23, Dave Hart wrote: > On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 13:02, Thomas Laus wrote: >> The capture / assert configuration options does >> not select reading the leading or trailing edge of a PPS pulse, NTP >> only reads timestamps to the on the leading edge and you may require >> an inverter to s

Re: [ntp:questions] NetBSD GPS/PPS using 4.2.6p3

2011-08-23 Thread A C
On 8/23/2011 10:57, David Lord wrote: I've only just noticed this. Not by default. On i386 NetBSD-5.1 my kernel conf has amongst other changes # options PPS_SYNC options PPS_SYNC However I don't know if it applies to your architecture. Yes, I've made the same change and recompiled the kern

Re: [ntp:questions] NetBSD GPS/PPS using 4.2.6p3

2011-08-23 Thread David Lord
A C wrote: Hi everyone, I read through most of the archives on various discussions on PPS from a GPS and tried the suggestions listed there but none have seemed to work in my case. I am using a Globalsat ET212 GPS SiRF III based receiver module which was originally used in cellular phone st

Re: [ntp:questions] Fwd: Re: NetBSD GPS/PPS using 4.2.6p3

2011-08-23 Thread A C
On 8/23/2011 08:49, Terje Mathisen wrote: A C wrote: The duty cycle is about 10% (100ms on 900ms off). I'll try tossing in This is pretty much perfect. the pulse stretcher and/or inverter just after the GPS receiver and see what happens. Won't help probably. :-( At the very least I'll to

Re: [ntp:questions] Fwd: Re: NetBSD GPS/PPS using 4.2.6p3

2011-08-23 Thread Dave Hart
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 13:02, Thomas Laus wrote: > The capture / assert configuration options does > not select reading the leading or trailing edge of a PPS pulse, NTP > only reads timestamps to the on the leading edge and you may require > an inverter to swap polatity for NetBSD to read and syn

Re: [ntp:questions] Fwd: Re: NetBSD GPS/PPS using 4.2.6p3

2011-08-23 Thread Terje Mathisen
A C wrote: The duty cycle is about 10% (100ms on 900ms off). I'll try tossing in This is pretty much perfect. the pulse stretcher and/or inverter just after the GPS receiver and see what happens. Won't help probably. :-( Terje -- - "almost all programming can be viewed as an exercise in

Re: [ntp:questions] Fwd: Re: NetBSD GPS/PPS using 4.2.6p3

2011-08-23 Thread David Lord
David Lord wrote: A C wrote: On 8/20/2011 17:41, David Lord wrote: My config for NetBSD-5.1 on i386: # GPS Sure serial tty00 /dev/gps2 server 127.127.20.2 mode 18 prefer fudge 127.127.20.2 time2 0.350 refid GPSb server 127.127.22.2 fudge 127.127.22.2 flag2 0 flag3 1 refid PPSb The Sure outp

Re: [ntp:questions] Fwd: Re: NetBSD GPS/PPS using 4.2.6p3

2011-08-23 Thread David Lord
A C wrote: On 8/20/2011 17:41, David Lord wrote: My config for NetBSD-5.1 on i386: # GPS Sure serial tty00 /dev/gps2 server 127.127.20.2 mode 18 prefer fudge 127.127.20.2 time2 0.350 refid GPSb server 127.127.22.2 fudge 127.127.22.2 flag2 0 flag3 1 refid PPSb The Sure output is at a higher b

Re: [ntp:questions] Fwd: Re: NetBSD GPS/PPS using 4.2.6p3

2011-08-23 Thread A C
On 8/23/2011 06:02, Thomas Laus wrote: On 2011-08-22, A C wrote: Yes but ntpd still doesn't see the PPS signal on DCD with or without flag3. So I'm lost on how to solve this problem. I know the PPS signal is there on the wire, I know DCD is being asserted and cleared. I know the test code ca

Re: [ntp:questions] Fwd: Re: NetBSD GPS/PPS using 4.2.6p3

2011-08-23 Thread Thomas Laus
On 2011-08-22, A C wrote: > Yes but ntpd still doesn't see the PPS signal on DCD with or without > flag3. So I'm lost on how to solve this problem. I know the PPS signal > is there on the wire, I know DCD is being asserted and cleared. I know > the test code can see it but for some reason I