Re: [ntp:questions] Accuracy of GPS device

2011-09-02 Thread unruh
On 2011-09-02, Miguel Gon?alves wrote: > Comments bellow... > > On 2 September 2011 00:47, unruh wrote: > >> On 2011-09-01, Miguel Gon?alves wrote: >> > Hi! >> > >> > Thanks for your reply. My comments bellow. >> > >> > On 1 September 2011 18:24, unruh wrote: >> > >> >> On 2011-09-01, Miguel Go

Re: [ntp:questions] garmin 18x and linux

2011-09-02 Thread unruh
On 2011-09-02, Chris Albertson wrote: > As I said, Without a PPS signal you will not get reasonable results. If > the GPS lacks the PPS get another GPS. They are cheap. Really nice units > with timing specs literally 100X better than the 18X can be bought on eBay > for $20 to $30. > > The pro

Re: [ntp:questions] Odd behaviour in a multicast setting (bug in ntpd???)

2011-09-02 Thread Marco Marongiu
Il 01/09/2011 16:08, Dave Hart ha scritto: > That may tell you nothing, but it tells me the issue you see with > multicast servers showing up with 1024s poll interval is not a problem > with the ntp-stable release 4.2.6p3, meaning it's also unlikely to be > an issue with ntp-dev (4.2.7). You can t

Re: [ntp:questions] Accuracy of GPS device

2011-09-02 Thread David Woolley
Miguel Gonçalves wrote: No. This is a stratum 2 server and it gets the time from stratum 1 servers thus the names and not IP addresses. Poorly connected stratum 1 servers. With current WAN speeds you should have delays more like 10ms. Maybe you WAN is overloaded. Certainly you haven't pr

[ntp:questions] ntptime (ntp_gettime) behaviour

2011-09-02 Thread Rini van Zetten
Resend Hello, I'm struggling with the behavior of ntptime. Let me first explain what i want to reach. We have an embedded system where we have to log several inputs with timestamp. The timestamp needs to be within 0,5sec accuracy. When using ntp version 4.2.2.p3 I use the output of ntptime to s

Re: [ntp:questions] Accuracy of GPS device

2011-09-02 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
On 2 September 2011 07:56, unruh wrote: > > Nope. > > It is completely unclear to me what your question is. Your 10.0.2.254 is > an outside switch. I had several questions in my first message. Your assumption is wrong. You are telling me that a switch I installed in my rack and defined its man

Re: [ntp:questions] Accuracy of GPS device

2011-09-02 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Hi David! On 2 September 2011 08:19, David Woolley wrote: > Miguel Gonçalves wrote: > > >> No. This is a stratum 2 server and it gets the time from stratum 1 servers >> thus the names and not IP addresses. >> > > Poorly connected stratum 1 servers. With current WAN speeds you should > have delay

Re: [ntp:questions] Accuracy of GPS device

2011-09-02 Thread Miroslav Lichvar
On Fri, Sep 02, 2011 at 09:50:05AM +0100, Miguel Gonçalves wrote: > I found out the problem and just for the record I'll explain... > > The offset is larger than the delay because NTPd is using 10.0.2.254 (more > on this switch later) as a time source and it shouldn't because it has two > local st

Re: [ntp:questions] garmin 18x and linux

2011-09-02 Thread Greg Hennessy
On 2011-09-02, Chris Albertson wrote: > As I said, Without a PPS signal you will not get reasonable > results. I would appreciate advice on solving the problem I have, not buying the equipment you wished I have. I don't need microsecond timing. I don't need millisecond timing. I have a need to h

Re: [ntp:questions] garmin 18x and linux

2011-09-02 Thread Courtney Bane
On Fri, Sep 02, 2011 at 02:24:44AM +, Greg Hennessy wrote: > Given that ntp in debug mode shows gpsread showing NTP at least sees > the GPRMC messages, can anyone sugguest why NTP never syncs? Is there > additional debug flags that would be useful? NTP isn't syncing because the GPS is reportin

Re: [ntp:questions] garmin 18x and linux

2011-09-02 Thread Rob
Greg Hennessy wrote: > On 2011-09-02, Chris Albertson wrote: >> As I said, Without a PPS signal you will not get reasonable >> results. > > I would appreciate advice on solving the problem I have, not buying > the equipment you wished I have. I don't need microsecond timing. I > don't need milli

Re: [ntp:questions] garmin 18x and linux

2011-09-02 Thread David Lord
Greg Hennessy wrote: On 2011-09-02, Chris Albertson wrote: As I said, Without a PPS signal you will not get reasonable results. I would appreciate advice on solving the problem I have, not buying the equipment you wished I have. I don't need microsecond timing. I don't need millisecond timin

Re: [ntp:questions] garmin 18x and linux

2011-09-02 Thread Greg Hennessy
On 2011-09-02, Courtney Bane wrote: > NTP isn't syncing because the GPS is reporting that it doesn't have a > valid fix. > >> $GPRMC,195342,V,3855.3261,N,07704.0687,W,,,010911,010.8,W*68 Thank you. I will try to move it to a place with more visibility. And if I can find the person who thought h

Re: [ntp:questions] Accuracy of GPS device

2011-09-02 Thread Dave Hart
2011/9/2 Miguel Gonçalves : > $ ntpq -p 10.0.2.2; ntpdc -c kerninfo 10.0.2.2 >     remote           refid      st t when poll reach   delay   offset >  jitter > == > +10.0.2.10       .GPS.            1 u  734 1024  377    0

Re: [ntp:questions] Accuracy of GPS device

2011-09-02 Thread unruh
On 2011-09-02, Miguel Gon?alves wrote: > On 2 September 2011 07:56, unruh wrote: > >> >> Nope. >> >> It is completely unclear to me what your question is. Your 10.0.2.254 is >> an outside switch. > > > I had several questions in my first message. Your assumption is wrong. > > You are telling me t

Re: [ntp:questions] Accuracy of GPS device

2011-09-02 Thread unruh
On 2011-09-02, Miguel Gon?alves wrote: > > Very good point really. This is probably why the FreeBSD machine performs > better than the Linux one. The FreeBSD is embedded and doesn't produce a lot > of heat while the Linux one is a Dell regular server. Perhaps removing the > lid on the Linux server

Re: [ntp:questions] garmin 18x and linux

2011-09-02 Thread David Woolley
Rob wrote: You will find (you have found) that by posting on this group, your message falls into the hands of a small group of people that will either base all their solutions on much more stringent requirements than you actually have (e.g. they don't consider using GPS serial messages because

Re: [ntp:questions] Questions about joining pool.ntp.org

2011-09-02 Thread Mischanko, Edward T
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Re: [ntp:questions] Questions about joining pool.ntp.org

2011-09-02 Thread E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists
Mischanko, Edward T wrote: > My understanding is that IP addresses in the > 192.168.xxx.xxx range are not routable? RFC1918 Private Networks: 10.0.0.0/8, 172.16.0.0/12, 192.168.0.0/16 Those IPv4 reserved addresses may not be internet routable, however they are internal enterprise intranet routab

Re: [ntp:questions] garmin 18x and linux

2011-09-02 Thread Chris Albertson
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 12:06 AM, unruh wrote: > > No. ntp can use the GPS nmea sentences to time the clock to a few 10s of > ms. -- you may need to fudge the time offset to make up for the delay of > the nmea sentence. > > Yes, maybe NTP can but not with this Garmin 18 unit. Some GPSes are bette

Re: [ntp:questions] garmin 18x and linux

2011-09-02 Thread unruh
On 2011-09-02, David Woolley wrote: > Rob wrote: > >> >> You will find (you have found) that by posting on this group, your message >> falls into the hands of a small group of people that will either base >> all their solutions on much more stringent requirements than you actually >> have (e.g. t

Re: [ntp:questions] garmin 18x and linux

2011-09-02 Thread unruh
On 2011-09-03, Chris Albertson wrote: > On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 12:06 AM, unruh wrote: > >> >> No. ntp can use the GPS nmea sentences to time the clock to a few 10s of >> ms. -- you may need to fudge the time offset to make up for the delay of >> the nmea sentence. >> >> > Yes, maybe NTP can but no