Re: [ntp:questions] ISP bloked port 123

2013-09-18 Thread Bert Gøtterup Petersen
David, I understand that a Raspberry-Pi would do the trick, and I am sure that would work for everyone reading this. However, to our customers and installers this would be rather invasive. They are buying/installing a TV not an IT system.. Our accuracy requirement are not impressive, merely

Re: [ntp:questions] ISP bloked port 123

2013-09-18 Thread Rob
Bert Gøtterup Petersen b...@bang-olufsen.dk wrote: David, I understand that a Raspberry-Pi would do the trick, and I am sure that would work for everyone reading this. However, to our customers and installers this would be rather invasive. They are buying/installing a TV not an IT

Re: [ntp:questions] ISP bloked port 123

2013-09-18 Thread David Taylor
On 18/09/2013 08:55, Bert Gøtterup Petersen wrote: David, I understand that a Raspberry-Pi would do the trick, and I am sure that would work for everyone reading this. However, to our customers and installers this would be rather invasive. They are buying/installing a TV not an IT system..

Re: [ntp:questions] ISP bloked port 123

2013-09-18 Thread David Lord
Bert Gøtterup Petersen wrote: David, I understand that a Raspberry-Pi would do the trick, and I am sure that would work for everyone reading this. However, to our customers and installers this would be rather invasive. They are buying/installing a TV not an IT system.. Our accuracy

[ntp:questions] debugging level in ntp.conf

2013-09-18 Thread Riccardo Castellani
Which entry I have to add to ntp.conf to increase log level for daemon ? I found no documents about it, I can add only '-d' or '-D' option to 'ntp' but only if I run EXE file directly from shell. ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org

Re: [ntp:questions] which servers should be peers?

2013-09-18 Thread Steve Kostecke
On 2013-09-18, Charles Elliott elliott...@verizon.net wrote: IMHO, you don't want 15 servers; you want 9. You could start out with 15 and ntpd will mark the ones it finds lacking with a #. After a few days you could then whittle the list down to 9 based on the ones most frequently marked

Re: [ntp:questions] which servers should be peers?

2013-09-18 Thread David Taylor
On 18/09/2013 14:27, Steve Kostecke wrote: On 2013-09-18, Charles Elliott elliott...@verizon.net wrote: [] Charles's post hasn't (yet) appeared on USENET. Perhaps the gateway is broken, or very, very slow? -- Cheers, David Web: http://www.satsignal.eu

Re: [ntp:questions] which servers should be peers?

2013-09-18 Thread Steve Kostecke
On 2013-09-18, David Taylor david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: On 18/09/2013 14:27, Steve Kostecke wrote: On 2013-09-18, Charles Elliott elliott...@verizon.net wrote: [] Charles's post hasn't (yet) appeared on USENET. Perhaps the gateway is broken, or very, very slow?

Re: [ntp:questions] which servers should be peers?

2013-09-18 Thread David Taylor
On 18/09/2013 15:24, Steve Kostecke wrote: On 2013-09-18, David Taylor david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: On 18/09/2013 14:27, Steve Kostecke wrote: On 2013-09-18, Charles Elliott elliott...@verizon.net wrote: [] Charles's post hasn't (yet) appeared on USENET. Perhaps the gateway is

Re: [ntp:questions] debugging level in ntp.conf

2013-09-18 Thread Brian Inglis
On 2013-09-18 01:26, Riccardo Castellani wrote: Which entry I have to add to ntp.conf to increase log level for daemon ? I found no documents about it, I can add only '-d' or '-D' option to 'ntp' but only if I run EXE file directly from shell. # Log everything logconfig =allall # Save clock

Re: [ntp:questions] which servers should be peers?

2013-09-18 Thread David Taylor
On 18/09/2013 16:28, Steve Kostecke wrote: On 2013-09-18, David Taylor david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: On 18/09/2013 15:24, Steve Kostecke wrote: On 2013-09-18, David Taylor david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: On 18/09/2013 14:27, Steve Kostecke wrote: On 2013-09-18, Charles Elliott

[ntp:questions] statistics command defined in docs?

2013-09-18 Thread Brian Inglis
On 2013-09-18 09:25, Brian Inglis wrote: Not seeing statistics command under Command Index or Monitoring Options: http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp/html/comdex.html http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp/html/monopt.html nor elsewhere under html: grep -i statistics against local copies of the

Re: [ntp:questions] ISP bloked port 123

2013-09-18 Thread unruh
On 2013-09-18, Bert G?tterup Petersen b...@bang-olufsen.dk wrote: David, I understand that a Raspberry-Pi would do the trick, and I am sure that would work for everyone reading this. However, to our customers and installers this would be rather invasive. They are buying/installing a TV

Re: [ntp:questions] offset increases

2013-09-18 Thread unruh
On 2013-09-18, Riccardo Castellani r.castell...@usl6.toscana.it wrote: My Linux NTP server, which gives time to all my servers, has a strange behavior because when I set clock by 'ntpdate' command and later ntpd starts I can see 'offset' value increases until to these value: Yes. ntpd is

Re: [ntp:questions] which servers should be peers?

2013-09-18 Thread mike cook
Le 18 sept. 2013 à 17:17, Maria Iano a écrit : Thank you for your responses! An example of what I'm trying to be able to weather with no problems is something like this. Suddenly all four of our stratum 1 servers, due to some software glitch because they are all the same appliance, start

Re: [ntp:questions] which servers should be peers?

2013-09-18 Thread Maria Iano
I would be inclined to simply point each S2 server to an S1 in all centers, and an S2 in all centers. If any or all the S1s start serving rubbish, they will be declared false tickers and the remaining S2s will form an acceptable service with the server with the most stable clock being

[ntp:questions] debugging strange ntp in virtual environment

2013-09-18 Thread Riccardo Castellani
My NTP server has strange problem and my clients cannot update their time clock. My NTP server is Linux and NTP version is 4.2.0.a This NTP server is a virtual machine (by P2V) but few months ago it was working fine. My clients get following msg when I run ntpd daemon: 'no server suitable for

Re: [ntp:questions] debugging strange ntp in virtual environment

2013-09-18 Thread Harlan Stenn
Riccardo Castellani writes: My NTP server has strange problem and my clients cannot update their time clock. My NTP server is Linux and NTP version is 4.2.0.a That's 10 years old, and 3 (coming up on 4) major releases ago. http://support.ntp.org/Dev/ReleaseTimeline This NTP server is a

Re: [ntp:questions] debugging strange ntp in virtual environment

2013-09-18 Thread Rick Jones
Harlan Stenn st...@ntp.org wrote: Riccardo Castellani writes: My NTP server has strange problem and my clients cannot update their time clock. My NTP server is Linux and NTP version is 4.2.0.a That's 10 years old, and 3 (coming up on 4) major releases ago.

Re: [ntp:questions] which servers should be peers?

2013-09-18 Thread unruh
On 2013-09-18, Maria Iano ma...@iano.org wrote: I would be inclined to simply point each S2 server to an S1 in all centers, and an S2 in all centers. If any or all the S1s start serving rubbish, they will be declared false tickers and the remaining S2s will form an acceptable service with

Re: [ntp:questions] debugging strange ntp in virtual environment

2013-09-18 Thread unruh
On 2013-09-18, Riccardo Castellani ric.castell...@alice.it wrote: My NTP server has strange problem and my clients cannot update their time clock. My NTP server is Linux and NTP version is 4.2.0.a That is really really really old. This NTP server is a virtual machine (by P2V) but few months

[ntp:questions] R: Re: debugging strange ntp in virtual environment

2013-09-18 Thread Riccardo Castellani
I converted physical machine to virtual one, where there is NTPd service. My ESX host is running several guest OS included this NTP server. Can it be this one the problem ? Virtualization ? I'd like to know if ntpd adjusts only OS time or it adjust hardware clock too. In latter case if it

[ntp:questions] R: Re: debugging strange ntp in virtual environment

2013-09-18 Thread Riccardo Castellani
This NTP server is a virtual machine (by P2V) but few months ago it was working fine. Time control on a virtual machine is in general terrible. You should be having the underlying OS running ntp and having your virtual OS getting the time from that underlying OS. So ntpd service, which gives