Re: [ntp:questions] ntp server with two default routes misbehaving after upgrade

2014-04-20 Thread Rob
Caecilius nospam@spamless.invalid wrote: I guess that something has been added between 4.2.4p4 and 4.2.6p2 that's making ntp take notice of the two different routes. But I don't understand why it should care: that's the network layer's problem, and there will often be multiple routes between

Re: [ntp:questions] questions] Automatic time synchronization of local hw clock.

2014-04-20 Thread Casper H . S . Dik
David Taylor david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid writes: It would be helpful if the operating systems were to agree on how to use the BIOS clock. Not every computer travels during the year, and not every location has summer-time transitions. Right; dual boot (or more) is a problem and with

Re: [ntp:questions] Automatic time synchronization of local hw clock.

2014-04-20 Thread Jochen Bern
On 20.04.2014 14:00, questions-requ...@lists.ntp.org digested: From: David Taylor david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid It would be helpful if the operating systems were to agree on how to use the BIOS clock. Well, if I understand the statements about Win correctly, they *do* now, at least

Re: [ntp:questions] questions] Automatic time synchronization of local hw clock.

2014-04-20 Thread William Unruh
On 2014-04-20, David Taylor david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid wrote: On 19/04/2014 18:27, William Unruh wrote: [] Why in the world would that be helpful? Wall clock time changes when you move or travel. Wall clock changes twice a year at DST transitions. It is a silly thing to have

Re: [ntp:questions] questions] Automatic time synchronization of local hw clock.

2014-04-20 Thread David Taylor
On 20/04/2014 18:44, William Unruh wrote: [] Users never see the output of the RTC. So you've never needed to alter a parameter in the BIOS - lucky you! -- Cheers, David Web: http://www.satsignal.eu ___ questions mailing list

Re: [ntp:questions] Header-tiquette (was: NTP.log interpretation)

2014-04-20 Thread Jochen Bern
On 19.04.2014 14:00, questions-requ...@lists.ntp.org digested: From: David Woolley david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid On 18/04/14 21:15, Jochen Bern wrote: [Unthreaded reply.] Are you aware that you mail/news client is broken and is not threading your replies properly. If you are using

Re: [ntp:questions] questions] Automatic time synchronization of local hw clock.

2014-04-20 Thread William Unruh
On 2014-04-20, David Taylor david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid wrote: On 20/04/2014 18:44, William Unruh wrote: [] Users never see the output of the RTC. So you've never needed to alter a parameter in the BIOS - lucky you! Users never see the output of the RTC. If you are altering

Re: [ntp:questions] Header-tiquette

2014-04-20 Thread Jochen Bern
On 20.04.2014 22:35, Jochen Bern wrote: I haven't searched for an *add-on* to shoehorn into my Thunderbird that might further grok digest mails, though. (FWIW, I found Undigestify 0.8 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/undigestify/ which would probably allow for correct

Re: [ntp:questions] Header-tiquette

2014-04-20 Thread David Woolley
On 20/04/14 21:35, Jochen Bern wrote: Anyway, if failure to produce normal threading headers is as verboten as you claim, then it's not my user agent that is broken but the fact that the mailinglist server offers digest-mode subscriptions in the first place. (And, by the way, prefixes them

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP.log interpretation

2014-04-20 Thread GregL
On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 9:43 PM, Jason Rabel ja...@extremeoverclocking.comwrote: Greg, As others have suggested, any client running NTP should point to *at least* 3 time sources (usually ~5 is preferred)... The reason being if one server goes wacko, but the other two agree, then the client

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP.log interpretation

2014-04-20 Thread William Unruh
On 2014-04-21, GregL greg.leibfr...@gmail.com wrote: I really do appreciate all the responses to my questions. I would like to give this the proper respect it deserves and evaluate some best practices with respect to time synchronization across our enterprise systems. I would rather make

Re: [ntp:questions] Header-tiquette (was: NTP.log interpretation)

2014-04-20 Thread Steve Kostecke
On 2014-04-20, Jochen Bern jochen.b...@linworks.de wrote: You might want to note from the very first line in my replies that I'm subscribed to the mailing list in digest mode, and chances are that a quick inspection of the headers on your end would have shown you not only In-Reply-To: and