Re: [ntp:questions] Nice fanless high-perf NTP server: Fitlet!

2015-01-15 Thread Paul
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Rob nom...@example.com wrote: Terje Mathisen terje.mathi...@tmsw.no wrote: it would seem to be a nice NTPD startum 1 server. Of course, it could still be good enough when you want to use it as a network time server. Which is what was suggested. After

Re: [ntp:questions] Nice fanless high-perf NTP server: Fitlet!

2015-01-15 Thread Rob
Terje Mathisen terje.mathi...@tmsw.no wrote: http://linuxgizmos.com/tiny-fanless-mini-pc-runs-linux-on-quad-core-amd-soc/ This little guy starts at $129 and includes a serial port which should make it trivial to attach a Sure GPS board. With a dual or quad 64-bit CPU, both SATA and SD

Re: [ntp:questions] Nice fanless high-perf NTP server: Fitlet!

2015-01-15 Thread Rob
Paul tik-...@bodosom.net wrote: On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Rob nom...@example.com wrote: Terje Mathisen terje.mathi...@tmsw.no wrote: it would seem to be a nice NTPD startum 1 server. Of course, it could still be good enough when you want to use it as a network time server.

Re: [ntp:questions] Nice fanless high-perf NTP server: Fitlet!

2015-01-15 Thread Paul
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 8:41 AM, Terje Mathisen terje.mathi...@tmsw.no wrote: [Fitlet] includes a serial port which should make it trivial to attach a Sure GPS board. If they use a standard pinout. The PC-2i didn't support DCD which makes it not quite trivial. Hopefully the hardware

Re: [ntp:questions] Nice fanless high-perf NTP server: Fitlet!

2015-01-15 Thread Terje Mathisen
Paul wrote: On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Rob nom...@example.com wrote: It was suggested as a high-perf NTP server That string is not in the message. It's not a quote despite your quotation marks. Not in my msg, but in the subject of the entire thread. :-) Terje -- - Terje.Mathisen

Re: [ntp:questions] Nice fanless high-perf NTP server: Fitlet!

2015-01-15 Thread Terje Mathisen
Rob wrote: Terje Mathisen terje.mathi...@tmsw.no wrote: http://linuxgizmos.com/tiny-fanless-mini-pc-runs-linux-on-quad-core-amd-soc/ This little guy starts at $129 and includes a serial port which should make it trivial to attach a Sure GPS board. With a dual or quad 64-bit CPU, both SATA and

Re: [ntp:questions] Nice fanless high-perf NTP server: Fitlet!

2015-01-15 Thread Rob
Paul tik-...@bodosom.net wrote: On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Rob nom...@example.com wrote: It was suggested as a high-perf NTP server That string is not in the message. It's not a quote despite your quotation marks. It's in the subject, idiot!

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP Autokey - who is actively using it?

2015-01-15 Thread Harlan Stenn
Hal Murray writes: Is there a reasonable HOWTO type document describing how to set things up? Several years ago, Dave announced that one of the machines at UDel was ready for testers. I got as far as discovering that Autokey doesn't work through NAT boxes. Since I'm behind a NAT box, I

Re: [ntp:questions] Nice fanless high-perf NTP server: Fitlet!

2015-01-15 Thread Paul
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 2:20 PM, David Taylor david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid wrote: .. although expensive compared to a Raspberry Pi, if somewhat better in potential performance. Among my (S1) clique of clocks the leading predictor of offset is network connection not cpu. As you might

Re: [ntp:questions] Nice fanless high-perf NTP server: Fitlet!

2015-01-15 Thread Paul
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Rob nom...@example.com wrote: It was suggested as a high-perf NTP server That string is not in the message. It's not a quote despite your quotation marks. ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP Autokey - who is actively using it?

2015-01-15 Thread Hal Murray
Is there a reasonable HOWTO type document describing how to set things up? Several years ago, Dave announced that one of the machines at UDel was ready for testers. I got as far as discovering that Autokey doesn't work through NAT boxes. Since I'm behind a NAT box, I gave up. I should be

Re: [ntp:questions] Leap second to be introduced in June

2015-01-15 Thread David Woolley
On 15/01/15 07:56, Terje Mathisen wrote: Did we have a leap second last June? Or did you intend to check for 2015? Oops. I did get it right in the dry run, but not in the run I actually used: david@dhcppc4:~$ TZ=/usr/share/zoneinfo/right/UTC date -d '30 June 2015 86400 seconds' Wed Jul

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP Autokey - who is actively using it?

2015-01-15 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi, On 01/15/2015 03:06 AM, Harlan Stenn wrote: I'm trying to figure out if anybody is actively using autokey, in a production deployment. If you are, please let me know - I have some questions for you. We use it to pull leap-second info off the NTP servers. It took some effort to get it

Re: [ntp:questions] Nice fanless high-perf NTP server: Fitlet!

2015-01-15 Thread Paul
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Terje Mathisen terje.mathi...@tmsw.no wrote: Not in my msg, but in the subject of the entire thread. :-) I'm so used to nomail@example being wrong I had a knee-jerk reaction. My bad. This does give me the chance to ask what a high-perf NTP server might be.

Re: [ntp:questions] Leap second to be introduced in June

2015-01-15 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Phil W Lee p...@lee-family.me.uk said: For the tiny number of programs which really need UTC (not TAI), it would just be a different number, but the only thing I know of which really needs UTC rather than TAI would be programs to assist with astronomy or astral navigation. I

Re: [ntp:questions] Nice fanless high-perf NTP server: Fitlet!

2015-01-15 Thread Paul
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 9:23 PM, William Unruh un...@invalid.ca wrote: This does give me the chance to ask what a high-perf NTP server might be. I would have assumed the accuracy with which ntpd disciplines the computer The jitter variability (from loopstats) on one of my clocks is ~1e-7, on

Re: [ntp:questions] Leap second to be introduced in June

2015-01-15 Thread Terje Mathisen
David Woolley wrote: On 15/01/15 07:56, Terje Mathisen wrote: Did we have a leap second last June? Or did you intend to check for 2015? Oops. I did get it right in the dry run, but not in the run I actually used: david@dhcppc4:~$ TZ=/usr/share/zoneinfo/right/UTC date -d '30 June 2015

Re: [ntp:questions] Leap second to be introduced in June

2015-01-15 Thread Terje Mathisen
cmad...@cmadams.net (Chris Adams) wrote: Once upon a time, Phil W Lee p...@lee-family.me.uk said: For the tiny number of programs which really need UTC (not TAI), it would just be a different number, but the only thing I know of which really needs UTC rather than TAI would be programs to

Re: [ntp:questions] Nice fanless high-perf NTP server: Fitlet!

2015-01-15 Thread Terje Mathisen
Paul wrote: On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Terje Mathisen terje.mathi...@tmsw.no wrote: Not in my msg, but in the subject of the entire thread. :-) I'm so used to nomail@example being wrong I had a knee-jerk reaction. My bad. This does give me the chance to ask what a high-perf NTP

Re: [ntp:questions] Leap second to be introduced in June

2015-01-15 Thread Harlan Stenn
Terje Mathisen writes: cmad...@cmadams.net (Chris Adams) wrote: Also, you can't properly represent future timestamps (necessary for some things) as seconds since an epoch, and that's pretty widely used. By that I mean that the number of seconds between 2015-06-30 23:59:00 and 2015-07-01

Re: [ntp:questions] Nice fanless high-perf NTP server: Fitlet!

2015-01-15 Thread William Unruh
On 2015-01-15, Paul tik-...@bodosom.net wrote: On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Terje Mathisen terje.mathi...@tmsw.no wrote: Not in my msg, but in the subject of the entire thread. :-) I'm so used to nomail@example being wrong I had a knee-jerk reaction. My bad. This does give me the

Re: [ntp:questions] Leap second to be introduced in June

2015-01-15 Thread Terje Mathisen
David Woolley wrote: On 14/01/15 16:37, Terje Mathisen wrote: The calls I'm thinking of are those you make to convert an OS-supplied time_t (file) system timestamp to YMDHMS etc. Those calls have no need to be in the kernel, and they are not in Unix/Linux systems. The standard

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP Autokey - who is actively using it?

2015-01-15 Thread Marco Marongiu
On 15/01/15 03:06, Harlan Stenn wrote: I'm trying to figure out if anybody is actively using autokey, in a production deployment. If you are, please let me know - I have some questions for you. That's in my TO-DO list since at least 2011. When I tried to configure it at the time and on the

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP Server

2015-01-15 Thread Brian Inglis
On 2015-01-15 00:32, Yon Sareourn wrote: Dear All , Good afternoon, I want to configuration NTP Server, would you provide us with material that i need ? Thank you , http://doc.ntp.org -- Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis ___ questions mailing list

[ntp:questions] Nice fanless high-perf NTP server: Fitlet!

2015-01-15 Thread Terje Mathisen
http://linuxgizmos.com/tiny-fanless-mini-pc-runs-linux-on-quad-core-amd-soc/ This little guy starts at $129 and includes a serial port which should make it trivial to attach a Sure GPS board. With a dual or quad 64-bit CPU, both SATA and SD storage connectors and versions that support