Re: [questions] Re: GPS+PPS vs NTP server, why a huge offset ?

2022-06-17 Thread Jim Pennino
Daniel O'Connor wrote: > > >> On 17 Jun 2022, at 12:52, Jim Pennino wrote: >> Daniel O'Connor wrote: >>> >>> >>>> On 17 Jun 2022, at 00:07, David Taylor >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> On 16/06/2022 10:00, Thiebaud

Re: [questions] Re: GPS+PPS vs NTP server, why a huge offset ?

2022-06-16 Thread Jim Pennino
Daniel O'Connor wrote: > > >> On 17 Jun 2022, at 00:07, David Taylor >> wrote: >> >> On 16/06/2022 10:00, Thiebaud HUMBERT wrote: >>> To do the inversion, I just changed the "Pulse Mode" parameter to "Falling >>> edge" from "Rising edge". >>> The offset induced by the "pulse length" has

[questions] Re: GPS+PPS vs NTP server, why a huge offset ?

2022-06-16 Thread Jim Pennino
chris wrote: > On 06/16/22 16:20, Jim Pennino wrote: >> Thibaut HUMBERT wrote: >>> Le jeudi 16 juin 2022 à 16:37:33 UTC+2, David Taylor a écrit : >>>> On 16/06/2022 10:00, Thiebaud HUMBERT wrote: >>>>> To do the inversion, I just changed the "P

[questions] Re: GPS+PPS vs NTP server, why a huge offset ?

2022-06-16 Thread Jim Pennino
Thibaut HUMBERT wrote: > Le jeudi 16 juin 2022 à 16:37:33 UTC+2, David Taylor a écrit : >> On 16/06/2022 10:00, Thiebaud HUMBERT wrote: >> > To do the inversion, I just changed the "Pulse Mode" parameter to "Falling >> > edge" from "Rising edge". >> > The offset induced by the "pulse length"

Re: [ntp:questions] ntp pool servers disappear - more data

2021-06-25 Thread Jim Pennino
William Unruh wrote: > On 2021-06-25, Jim Pennino wrote: >> chris wrote: >>> On 06/25/21 17:28, Jim Pennino wrote: >> > ... >> >> Actually what I plan to do is to put a $14 USB GPS on the machine that >> already has a PPS GPS at

Re: [ntp:questions] ntp pool servers disappear - more data

2021-06-25 Thread Jim Pennino
William Unruh wrote: > On 2021-06-25, Jim Pennino wrote:A >> Or for $14/machine I could use a USB GPS, my machine with PPS GPS, and A >> public server that does NOT request use of DNS which yields 3 sources of >> time without using a pool or DNS lookups. > &g

Re: [ntp:questions] ntp pool servers disappear - more data

2021-06-25 Thread Jim Pennino
chris wrote: > On 06/25/21 17:28, Jim Pennino wrote: >> Or for $14/machine I could use a USB GPS, my machine with PPS GPS, and A >> public server that does NOT request use of DNS which yields 3 sources of >> time without using a pool or DNS lookups. >> >> Or

Re: [ntp:questions] ntp pool servers disappear - more data

2021-06-25 Thread Jim Pennino
chris wrote: > On 06/25/21 04:08, Jim Pennino wrote: >> William Unruh wrote: >> >> >> >>> I suspect it is the number of times that ntpd tries to contact the >>> server and fails rather than the time that is important. You could try >>> p

Re: [ntp:questions] ntp pool servers disappear - more data

2021-06-25 Thread Jim Pennino
William Unruh wrote: > On 2021-06-25, Jim Pennino wrote: >> chris wrote: >>> On 06/25/21 04:08, Jim Pennino wrote: >>>> William Unruh wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> I suspect it is the number of times that ntpd t

Re: [ntp:questions] ntp pool servers disappear - more data

2021-06-25 Thread Jim Pennino
William Unruh wrote: > I suspect it is the number of times that ntpd tries to contact the > server and fails rather than the time that is important. You could try > putting the server offline and then online again (I use chrony so do not > remember if ntpd has that option). No, it doesn't.

Re: [ntp:questions] ntp pool servers disappear - more data

2021-06-25 Thread Jim Pennino
Jim Pennino wrote: > I was checking the stability of a new USB GPS refclock on a server which > is configured to use the GPS, servers from the ntp pool, and another server > of mine that has a PPS GPS receiver. > > I noticed that almost all the pool servers had disappeared. >

Re: [ntp:questions] ntp pool servers disappear

2021-06-25 Thread Jim Pennino
On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 10:04:32AM -0400, Danny Mayer wrote: > On 6/23/21 10:26 AM, Jim Pennino wrote: > > It seems that any server in ntp.conf that is specified as a name, as > > the pool servers are, will after a sufficiently long DNS outage just > > disappear and not come

Re: [ntp:questions] ntp pool servers disappear

2021-06-24 Thread Jim Pennino
William Unruh wrote: > On 2021-06-23, Jim Pennino wrote: >> William Unruh wrote: >>> On 2021-06-23, Jim Pennino wrote: >>> ... >>>> >>>> As for the USB GPS I was testing, it is called a VK-162 G-Mouse >>>> available from Ama

Re: [ntp:questions] ntp pool servers disappear

2021-06-24 Thread Jim Pennino
William Unruh wrote: > Certainly if it used the usb channel at its full speed, that should be > fine. I always thought that gps ran at serial port speeds, but clearly > that is not true. Well, stty -F /dev/ACM0, which is where this puck shows up as opposed to the generic /dev/USB0, says

Re: [ntp:questions] ntp pool servers disappear

2021-06-24 Thread Jim Pennino
William Unruh wrote: > On 2021-06-23, Jim Pennino wrote: > ... >> >> As for the USB GPS I was testing, it is called a VK-162 G-Mouse >> available from Amazon for $14, uses the Windows 10 native driver so it >> works with Meinberg ntp, and keeps the time withi

[ntp:questions] ntp pool servers disappear

2021-06-24 Thread Jim Pennino
I was checking the stability of a new USB GPS refclock on a server which is configured to use the GPS, servers from the ntp pool, and another server of mine that has a PPS GPS receiver. I noticed that almost all the pool servers had disappeared. I then checked other machines that use my "good"

Re: [ntp:questions] Pi 4 and Ultimate hat weirdness

2021-01-26 Thread Jim Pennino
On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 11:06:41AM +, David Taylor wrote: > On 25/01/2021 16:33, Jim Pennino wrote: > [] > > But the PPS has a lot of jitter. Note the xPPS(0) in the ntpq line. > > > []> The default for NTP is 4800 baud, but I am running at 9600 and ther

Re: [ntp:questions] Pi 4 and Ultimate hat weirdness

2021-01-26 Thread Jim Pennino
On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 10:11:03AM -0800, Gary E. Miller wrote: > Yo Jim! > > On Sun, 24 Jan 2021 18:06:12 -0800 > Jim Pennino wrote: > > > I got a Pi 4 and Adafruit ultimate gps hat to play with and decided > > to see how good it was as a timekeeper. >

Re: [ntp:questions] Pi 4 and Ultimate hat weirdness

2021-01-26 Thread Jim Pennino
On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 11:03:46AM +, David Taylor wrote: > On 25/01/2021 02:06, Jim Pennino wrote: > > I got a Pi 4 and Adafruit ultimate gps hat to play with and decided to see > > how good it was as a timekeeper. > > > > First weird thing; xgps does not s

[ntp:questions] Pi 4 and Ultimate hat weirdness

2021-01-25 Thread Jim Pennino
0.000 -0.728 1.356 Anyone got any suggestions other than to trash the Ulitmate hat and get another GlobalSat USB? -- Jim Pennino ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org http://lists.ntp.org/listinfo/questions