[ntp:questions] R: Re: debugging strange ntp in virtual environment

2013-09-19 Thread Riccardo Castellani
David Woolley wrote: The basic problems with running ntpd on VMs are that simulated real time can run at variable rates, compared with true real time, and there can be large scheduling delays, which compromise the accuracy of offset measurement. What means simulated real time can run at

[ntp:questions] tnp server on linux guest machine (vmware)

2013-09-19 Thread Riccardo Castellani
Do you think it's good idea install time server into guest Linux machine ? I read something time and I think to use physical machine, it's right ? ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org http://lists.ntp.org/listinfo/questions

Re: [ntp:questions] R: Re: debugging strange ntpin virtual environment

2013-09-19 Thread Riccardo Castellani
unruh un...@invalid.ca ha scritto nel messaggio news:xzI_t.106385$_q4.85...@fx01.iad... vers is the same. It seems to now, and then that machine becomes loaded, with one of the other virtual machine taking up loads of time, and suddenly your time has gone to hell. This is how you want a

[ntp:questions] debugging level in ntp.conf

2013-09-18 Thread Riccardo Castellani
Which entry I have to add to ntp.conf to increase log level for daemon ? I found no documents about it, I can add only '-d' or '-D' option to 'ntp' but only if I run EXE file directly from shell. ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org

[ntp:questions] debugging strange ntp in virtual environment

2013-09-18 Thread Riccardo Castellani
My NTP server has strange problem and my clients cannot update their time clock. My NTP server is Linux and NTP version is 4.2.0.a This NTP server is a virtual machine (by P2V) but few months ago it was working fine. My clients get following msg when I run ntpd daemon: 'no server suitable for

[ntp:questions] R: Re: debugging strange ntp in virtual environment

2013-09-18 Thread Riccardo Castellani
I converted physical machine to virtual one, where there is NTPd service. My ESX host is running several guest OS included this NTP server. Can it be this one the problem ? Virtualization ? I'd like to know if ntpd adjusts only OS time or it adjust hardware clock too. In latter case if it

[ntp:questions] R: Re: debugging strange ntp in virtual environment

2013-09-18 Thread Riccardo Castellani
This NTP server is a virtual machine (by P2V) but few months ago it was working fine. Time control on a virtual machine is in general terrible. You should be having the underlying OS running ntp and having your virtual OS getting the time from that underlying OS. So ntpd service, which gives

[ntp:questions] client configuration: it's sufficient 3 servers ?

2013-05-24 Thread Riccardo Castellani
If I have 3 internal NTP servers, what do you think if my clients have all these 3 servers in their configuration ? According to '5.3.2. Why should I have more than one clock?' in 'http://www.ntp.org/ntpfaq/NTP-s-algo-real.htm#Q-NTP-ALGO I read 2 servers, it's worst case, but also 3...

Re: [ntp:questions] Offset is always increasing

2013-05-23 Thread Riccardo Castellani
0.11 127.127.1.1 127.127.1.1 10 l8 64 377 0.000.000 10.01 I'm worried because after many months I wouldn't like to find the same behaviour. I have no other software to discipline time. Riccardo Castellani wrote: I can see usually offset increases until 700 or 800

Re: [ntp:questions] Offset is always increasing

2013-05-23 Thread Riccardo Castellani
What do you think if I set drift file to '0' value ? Do you think this ntp behaviour happens again ? I'm able not to understand if my problem is hardware clock frequency which ntp cannot deal ! Riccardo Castellani writes: I can see usually offset increases until 700 or 800 and it keeps

Re: [ntp:questions] Offset is always increasing

2013-05-23 Thread Riccardo Castellani
Subject: Re: [ntp:questions] Offset is always increasing On 2013-05-23, Riccardo Castellani ric.castell...@alice.it wrote: I can see usually offset increases until 700 or 800 and it keeps this value, It keeps this value means it's stable for many months, it's doesnt change 800 what

Re: [ntp:questions] Offset is always increasing

2013-05-23 Thread Riccardo Castellani
My thought this NTP architecture : - n.1 server Linux (both on public and on private network) and It contains n. 4 NTP servers having stratum 1. This server gives time only to following servers: - n.3 server blade HP-UX where each server points to NTP server Linux. These 3 servers give time to

Re: [ntp:questions] Offset is always increasing

2013-05-23 Thread Riccardo Castellani
Ok, but I want to remove all 3 following lines from my HP-UX server ? server 127.127.1.0 fudge 127.127.1.0 restrict 127.127.1.0 mask 255.255.255.255 - Original Message - From: Rob nom...@example.com Newsgroups: comp.protocols.time.ntp To: questions@lists.ntp.org Sent: Thursday,

Re: [ntp:questions] Offset is always increasing

2013-05-23 Thread Riccardo Castellani
To: questions@lists.ntp.org Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [ntp:questions] Offset is always increasing Riccardo Castellani ric.castell...@alice.it wrote: Ok, but I want to remove all 3 following lines from my HP-UX server ? server 127.127.1.0 fudge 127.127.1.0 restrict 127.127.1.0

Re: [ntp:questions] Offset is always increasing

2013-05-23 Thread Riccardo Castellani
To: questions@lists.ntp.org Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 10:36 PM Subject: Re: [ntp:questions] Offset is always increasing On 2013-05-23, Riccardo Castellani ric.castell...@alice.it wrote: You thought right, xntpd says synchronisation lost every 20 minutes, drift file is about 855, xntpd daemon

Re: [ntp:questions] ntp architecture

2013-05-23 Thread Riccardo Castellani
. (unfortunately many manufacturers put those lines in example configs) on 21/05/2013 14:31, Riccardo Castellani wrote: n.4 srv Internet-- server A server A -- server B server A -- server C A is my internal source B,C are cluster machine so hardware is reliable but I don't want to present

Re: [ntp:questions] Offset is always increasing

2013-05-22 Thread Riccardo Castellani
at the end and subtract the offset at the beginning then divide by the time between the start and the end. That will give you the drift rate. If that rate is larger than 500 parts per million, then NTP cannot correct the clock. On 05/21/13 07:57, Riccardo Castellani wrote: I'm using n. 1 ntp server

Re: [ntp:questions] Offset is always increasing

2013-05-22 Thread Riccardo Castellani
, 2013 10:52 PM Subject: Re: [ntp:questions] Offset is always increasing Riccardo Castellani wrote: server 127.127.1.1 fudge 127.127.1.1 stratum 10 # show poor quality Remove these until you get it working, and then only re-add them if the system is serving time to downstream systems and you

Re: [ntp:questions] Offset is always increasing

2013-05-22 Thread Riccardo Castellani
I tested 3 identical server with the same hardware, after one day offset is the same value. I have to reset drift file ? Now is 855. - Original Message - From: Rob nom...@example.com Newsgroups: comp.protocols.time.ntp To: questions@lists.ntp.org Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 6:15

Re: [ntp:questions] Offset is always increasing

2013-05-22 Thread Riccardo Castellani
@lists.ntp.org Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 10:50 PM Subject: Re: [ntp:questions] Offset is always increasing Riccardo Castellani wrote: Remove these until you get it working, and then only re-add them if the system is serving time to downstream systems and you really understand why you are using them

[ntp:questions] Offset is always increasing

2013-05-21 Thread Riccardo Castellani
I'm using n. 1 ntp server (XNTPD daemon on HP-UX, called FORCLIENTS, 192.168.1.240) for my clients and I'm obtaining the message synchronization lost about every 20 minutes. Source time is another server (MASTER) on my lan which updates its time directly from Internet servers. MASTER is OK

[ntp:questions] ntp architecture

2013-05-21 Thread Riccardo Castellani
What do you think about this NTP configuration for my company ? I have n.1 NTP server called 'A' (which is among private and pubblic network) and it retrieves time from 4 time servers on Internet. I have n.2 NTP server called 'B' and 'C' (which are in private network) and they are used from

Re: [ntp:questions] Offset is always increasing

2013-05-21 Thread Riccardo Castellani
This is the server you want your clients to sync to, isn't it? Regards, Ed -Original Message- From: questions-bounces+edward.mischanko=arcelormittal@lists.ntp.org [mailto:questions- bounces+edward.mischanko=arcelormittal@lists.ntp.org] On Behalf Of Riccardo Castellani Sent: Tuesday, May 21

Re: [ntp:questions] Offset is always increasing

2013-05-21 Thread Riccardo Castellani
[mailto:questions- bounces+edward.mischanko=arcelormittal@lists.ntp.org] On Behalf Of Riccardo Castellani Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 6:58 AM To: questions@lists.ntp.org Subject: [ntp:questions] Offset is always increasing I'm using n. 1 ntp server (XNTPD daemon on HP-UX, called FORCLIENTS