Re: [ntp:questions] Stick to PPS, even if the prefer server fails

2009-03-29 Thread alkope...@googlemail.com
On Mar 29, 5:12 am, mi...@udel.edu (David Mills) wrote: John, The intended design to detect and suppress bad reference/PPS clocks is at least two additional sources, that do not have to be reference clocks. If the reference/PPS clock sails to the sunset, the selection algorithm will vote it

Re: [ntp:questions] Stick to PPS, even if the prefer server fails

2009-03-29 Thread alkope...@googlemail.com
On Mar 29, 8:25 pm, Unruh unruh-s...@physics.ubc.ca wrote: Eg, no fudge1, do not trust it without a peer to number the seconds, fudge1 0 trust it forever, fudge1 86400 trust it for a day, etc. In all cases do not trust it until the system clock has been brought within .25 sec, say, by

Re: [ntp:questions] Stick to PPS, even if the prefer server fails

2009-03-26 Thread alkope...@googlemail.com
On Mar 26, 5:46 am, Unruh unruh-s...@physics.ubc.ca wrote: So, I have PPS running the shm refclock, with the seconds supplied by the local clock (ie the reading from the system clock) and the usec from the PPS signal.  Since I do not expect the local clock to suddenly shift by a second, its

Re: [ntp:questions] Stick to PPS, even if the prefer server fails

2009-03-25 Thread alkope...@googlemail.com
. Dave alkope...@googlemail.com wrote: On Mar 24, 10:29 pm, mi...@udel.edu (David Mills) wrote: alkopedia, Your PPS signal is working, but not necesarily discipining thekernel. I can't help you with Linux. Dave Thanks for your help anyway. The PPS is working, that's right. But let me

Re: [ntp:questions] Stick to PPS, even if the prefer server fails

2009-03-25 Thread alkope...@googlemail.com
On Mar 26, 12:48 am, Unruh unruh-s...@physics.ubc.ca wrote: However if the only concern was losing PPS discipline due to prefer peer problems, then I agree this is tangential. Yes, it was ;-) I think he's monitoring the self-reported offsets between the NTP disciplined clock and the local

Re: [ntp:questions] Stick to PPS, even if the prefer server fails

2009-03-24 Thread alkope...@googlemail.com
On Mar 23, 5:00 am, Dave Hart daveh...@gmail.com wrote: Dr. Mills, Thank you for your confirmation.  The original poster should be satisfied, assuming their kernel time is being disciplined directly by their cesium standard. What do I have to do to use the kernel discipline? At the moment

[ntp:questions] Stick to PPS, even if the prefer server fails

2009-03-21 Thread alkope...@googlemail.com
Hi My setup is as follows: Server A --- GPS | | Server B --- HP cesium frequency normal Server A gets it's timestamps from GPS. Server B gets it's timestamps from Server A and PPS from the HP cesium. Server A is marked as prefer because otherwise PPS won't work. My problem is: If Server A

[ntp:questions] noise, frequency, stability, tai, rootdispersion, ...

2009-02-03 Thread alkope...@googlemail.com
Hi Where can I find a detailed description of all these values provided by ntpq -c rv? What do you think which values are important for logging and graphical display to see problems fast? Here is an example http://www.wraith.sf.ca.us/ntp/rrd/index.html but I'm not sure what is important because I

Re: [ntp:questions] Close stats files

2009-01-14 Thread alkope...@googlemail.com
On Jan 13, 9:29 pm, David Woolley da...@ex.djwhome.demon.co.uk.invalid wrote: You should be very wary of any frequently written file on flash RAM. Even if you constantly write with maximum speed to the SD card it will take around 2 years until the minimum write cycle count is reached.

Re: [ntp:questions] Close stats files

2009-01-14 Thread alkope...@googlemail.com
On Jan 11, 6:52 pm, Unruh unruh-s...@physics.ubc.ca wrote: And alter your script so that it does not try to write any file on today or earlier. Or test to see if peerstats and peerstats.20090201 are the same file (same inode with ls -li) This is a good idea. I have changed my script and it

Re: [ntp:questions] Close stats files

2009-01-11 Thread alkope...@googlemail.com
On Jan 10, 8:23 pm, Unruh unruh-s...@physics.ubc.ca wrote: What version of ntp are you running? I have 4.2.4p4 and it creates a new set of statistics files every day, saving the old ones in the form /var/log/ntp/peerstats.20090101  /var/log/ntp/peerstats.20090106 As far as I can tell ntp

Re: [ntp:questions] Close stats files

2009-01-10 Thread alkope...@googlemail.com
On Jan 9, 11:19 am, alkope...@googlemail.com alkope...@googlemail.com wrote: Thanks. Now I have in my ntp.conf: # statistics statistics clockstats cryptostats loopstats peerstats rawstats sysstats filegen clockstats file clockstats type day enable filegen cryptostats file cryptostats type

Re: [ntp:questions] Close stats files

2009-01-09 Thread alkope...@googlemail.com
On Jan 9, 3:10 am, Richard B. Gilbert rgilber...@comcast.net wrote: This is the (AFAIK) documented and supported method of getting NTP to start a new file every day. Eventually, you will have remove the old files or buy a new disk drive! ;-) You put it in your NTP.CONF file. Thanks. Now I

[ntp:questions] Close stats files

2009-01-08 Thread alkope...@googlemail.com
Hello I'm using a script that moves the ntp stats (cryptostats.20090107, loopstats.20090107, ...) files from the ntp server to a fileserver at 00:40 AM. It works fine, except for the cryptostats.mmdd file. It seems the ntpd has this file still opened and when I move it away it will produce a

Re: [ntp:questions] Close stats files

2009-01-08 Thread alkope...@googlemail.com
On 8 Jan., 15:42, Richard B. Gilbert rgilber...@comcast.net wrote: Is that 00:40 AM local time?  Or UTC? Have you tried using: It's UTC and ntpd is version 4.2.4p5 filegen cryptostats file cryptostats type day enable ?? What do you mean? ___

Re: [ntp:questions] Meinberg PPS signal is not synchronous with refclock signal

2008-12-19 Thread alkope...@googlemail.com
On Dec 18, 7:56 pm, Unruh unruh-s...@physics.ubc.ca wrote: That you PPS has an offset of 20-40usec does surprize me. It should be much better than that (2-4ms is more typical) Running time was not long enough at that point. In the last 12 hours I have these values: Min: -4 us, Max: +6.9 us,

Re: [ntp:questions] Meinberg PPS signal is not synchronous with refclock signal

2008-12-18 Thread alkope...@googlemail.com
On Dec 18, 10:08 am, Martin Burnicki martin.burni...@meinberg.de wrote: Hi, The PCI511 card decodes the AM signal from DCF77 only. Due to the characteristics of the AM signal the accuracy of the PCI511 card is only in the range of a few milliseconds, while the GPS card provides an accuracy

Re: [ntp:questions] Meinberg PPS signal is not synchronous with refclock signal

2008-12-18 Thread alkope...@googlemail.com
On Dec 18, 12:47 pm, alkope...@googlemail.com alkope...@googlemail.com wrote: I did not wonder about the offset between gps and pps Should be: I did not wonder about the offset between gps and dcf :-) ___ questions mailing list questions

Re: [ntp:questions] Meinberg PPS signal is not synchronous with refclock signal

2008-12-18 Thread alkope...@googlemail.com
On Dec 17, 6:57 pm, ober...@es.net (Kevin Oberman) wrote: The time to process the time string from the clock is long and fairly slow. The PPS is short and fast. As the documentation states, the PPS signal trains the clock. OK, my first example has an error. Of course I need the same fudge at

[ntp:questions] Strange jitter values

2008-12-18 Thread alkope...@googlemail.com
Hi One of my ntp servers (moni0) uses another ntp server (gps) as time source. The gps server gets it's time by gps ;-) As you can see in this graph the offset is quite constant: http://img-up.net/img/gps-jitter0PsFiy.png But I wonder why it shows such big jitter values? I thought jitter is only

[ntp:questions] Meinberg PPS signal is not synchronous with refclock signal

2008-12-17 Thread alkope...@googlemail.com
Hi I have 2 ntp servers running Linux with LinuxPPS patch. Number one uses a Meinberg PCI511 v1.00 as time source, number two uses a Meinberg GPS170PCI v1.10. On both machines ntp is configured to use the Meinberg refclock (127.127.8.0) and furthermore the Meinberg PPS outputs are connected to the