Re: [ntp:questions] NTP slow to start correction after a drift

2008-05-14 Thread David L. Mills
Bill, You seem to have a tack up your tail about the clock filter algorithm. First, you didn't respond to my message about sampling at twice the Nyquist rate, even if a burst of seven samples is lost. Second, look at the clock filter algorithm code and comments. Samples older than the Allan in

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP slow to start correction after a drift

2008-05-14 Thread Unruh
Mike K Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >On 12 May, 15:16, "Richard B. Gilbert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Mike K Smith wrote: >> > Looks like I should be reducing maxpoll. I guess the design of NTP is >> > optimised for clocks with predictable drift rates, and a sudden >> > variation in drif

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP slow to start correction after a drift

2008-05-13 Thread Richard B. Gilbert
Mike K Smith wrote: > On 12 May, 15:16, "Richard B. Gilbert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Mike K Smith wrote: > >>> Looks like I should be reducing maxpoll. I guess the design of NTP is >>> optimised for clocks with predictable drift rates, and a sudden >>> variation in drift rate takes longer to

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP slow to start correction after a drift

2008-05-13 Thread Mike K Smith
On 12 May, 15:16, "Richard B. Gilbert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mike K Smith wrote: > > Looks like I should be reducing maxpoll. I guess the design of NTP is > > optimised for clocks with predictable drift rates, and a sudden > > variation in drift rate takes longer to correct. > > You DO know

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP slow to start correction after a drift

2008-05-12 Thread David L. Mills
David and others, The adaptive poll algorithm evolved over many years and many variations. A summary follows. 1. The poll will not be less than the maximum of the peer poll and minpoll. The maximum poll will not be greater than maxpoll. This is to protect the network. 2. The time constant wil

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP slow to start correction after a drift

2008-05-12 Thread David Woolley
Mike K Smith wrote: > Looks like I should be reducing maxpoll. I guess the design of NTP is As I understand it, the loop time constant determines the poll interval, but the poll interval doesn't constrain the loop time constant, so reducing maxpoll will not make the system significantly more re

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP slow to start correction after a drift

2008-05-12 Thread Richard B. Gilbert
Mike K Smith wrote: > On 9 May, 16:46, Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Why would you use a solaris system? AFAIK its kernel timeing routines are >> primative. Use a Linux/BSD system. > This is an existing system which I don't have the means to change even > if I felt that Solaris were someho

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP slow to start correction after a drift

2008-05-12 Thread Mike K Smith
On 9 May, 16:46, Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why would you use a solaris system? AFAIK its kernel timeing routines are > primative. Use a Linux/BSD system. This is an existing system which I don't have the means to change even if I felt that Solaris were somehow intrinsically inferior to Li

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP slow to start correction after a drift

2008-05-12 Thread Mike K Smith
Hi Brian, On 9 May, 19:06, Brian Utterback <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do you have the frequency data from the same period as the graph? What > happened to cause the frequency to be off all of a sudden? Loopstats weren't enabled so I don't have the frequency data. I'm out of the office today but

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP slow to start correction after a drift

2008-05-09 Thread Brian Utterback
Do you have the frequency data from the same period as the graph? What happened to cause the frequency to be off all of a sudden? Brian Utterback ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org https://lists.ntp.org/mailman/listinfo/questions

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP slow to start correction after a drift

2008-05-09 Thread Unruh
Mike K Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >Apologies for a long post, but I was unable to make it shorter. >I have been monitoring timekeeping performance on an environment which >contains 3 stratum 1 clocks and 4 Cisco routers running as stratum 2. >The stratum 1s use time which is derived origin

[ntp:questions] NTP slow to start correction after a drift

2008-05-09 Thread Mike K Smith
Apologies for a long post, but I was unable to make it shorter. I have been monitoring timekeeping performance on an environment which contains 3 stratum 1 clocks and 4 Cisco routers running as stratum 2. The stratum 1s use time which is derived originally from GPS, but fed to the stratum 1 clocks