Re: [ntp:questions] Time synchronization

2009-02-21 Thread Hans Jørgen Jakobsen
On 21 Feb 2009 12:15:30 GMT, Rob wrote: > I think the value returned by the gettimeofday function will probably > have a worse resolution on the MOXA board than it has on the PC. > That will make it difficult to get a low offset value, as the gpsd process > sends the gettimeofday value at the time

Re: [ntp:questions] Time synchronization

2009-02-21 Thread Rob
I think the value returned by the gettimeofday function will probably have a worse resolution on the MOXA board than it has on the PC. That will make it difficult to get a low offset value, as the gpsd process sends the gettimeofday value at the time of the PPS pulse to ntpd via the shared memory b

[ntp:questions] Time synchronization

2009-02-12 Thread Dahal Runa
I would like to correct my previous data and send in more accurate information. we are using RT3000(more accurate GPS receiver)and using ntp -q program to query the output in both the nTP machine as well as the moxa board. The following output were obtained. NTP data remote refid

Re: [ntp:questions] Time synchronization

2009-02-07 Thread Hal Murray
>gpsd does not perform any filtering at all. it puts the timestamp >data from NMEA and PPS into shared memory and lets ntpd do all the >filtering via the shm driver. I tweaked the shm driver a while ago. It's in ntp-dev. It used to grab one sample per polling interval. Now it grabs one per seco

Re: [ntp:questions] Time synchronization

2009-02-07 Thread Rob
Dave Hart wrote: > On Feb 6, 5:35 pm, rxd1...@louisiana.edu (Dahal Runa) wrote: >> gpsd: Packet discard of 35, chars remaining is 0 = >> gpsd: <= GPS: $GPZDA,220649.000,05,02,2009,,*51 >> gpsd: pps-detect (DCD) on /dev/ttyM0 changed to 0 >> gpsd: PPS pulse rejected. No fix. >> gpsd: pps-detect (DC

Re: [ntp:questions] Time synchronization

2009-02-07 Thread Rob
David Mills wrote: > Rob, > > That would work fine, but does not explain the large jitter reported, > unless gpsd displays the raw data placed in the shared segment. That > wouldn't be very useful; the ntpq rv data would be useful and in fact > the ultimate performance calibration. Also, why is

Re: [ntp:questions] Time synchronization

2009-02-06 Thread David Mills
Rob, That would work fine, but does not explain the large jitter reported, unless gpsd displays the raw data placed in the shared segment. That wouldn't be very useful; the ntpq rv data would be useful and in fact the ultimate performance calibration. Also, why is there a PPS claimi but the ke

Re: [ntp:questions] Time synchronization

2009-02-06 Thread Dave Hart
On Feb 6, 5:35 pm, rxd1...@louisiana.edu (Dahal Runa) wrote: > gpsd: Packet discard of 35, chars remaining is 0 = > gpsd: <= GPS: $GPZDA,220649.000,05,02,2009,,*51 > gpsd: pps-detect (DCD) on /dev/ttyM0 changed to 0 > gpsd: PPS pulse rejected. No fix. > gpsd: pps-detect (DCD) on /dev/ttyM0 changed

Re: [ntp:questions] Time synchronization

2009-02-06 Thread Rob
David Mills wrote: > Third, the data reported is not from ntpd, but another daemon called > gpsd. Apparently it doesn'tt like the PPS signal. I don't know what > grooming algorithm it uses, but both the kernel and atom driver use a > trimmed-mean median filter, which is a rather heave dose of s

Re: [ntp:questions] Time synchronization

2009-02-06 Thread David Mills
Dahal, I've never seen a properly configured GPS/PPS configuration behave as badly as you report. See pogo.udel.edu as example. It rarely strays more than a couple of microseconds. First, as mentioned several times, ntpdc lies through its teeth. Some of the billboard items reflect data that ha

[ntp:questions] Time synchronization

2009-02-06 Thread Dahal Runa
We are using a highly accurate (GPS RT3000) and we are synchronizing our system's time using the NTP computer. The time synchronization is pretty accurate But we are receiving high offset and jitter values in moxa(UC-7112 plus) therefore we are not able to replace the moxa with the NTP.By using nt

Re: [ntp:questions] Time synchronization for hosts running on VMWare

2008-07-20 Thread Ryan Malayter
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 12:18 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That doesn't seem right. Some forms of virtualization virtualize the > time in this manner, but some do not. For instance on a multiple > processor system, any type 1 hypervisor like xen or Hyper-X should be > able to keep the time ju

Re: [ntp:questions] Time synchronization for hosts running on VMWare

2008-07-20 Thread brian . utterback
On Jul 14, 11:29 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ryan Malayter) wrote: > issue is not specific to VMware - all virtualization solutions have > the same problem with time itself being virtualized (Xen, Microsoft > Hyper-V, KVM, etc...) That doesn't seem right. Some forms of virtualization virtualize the ti

Re: [ntp:questions] Time synchronization for hosts running on VMWare

2008-07-15 Thread Ryan Malayter
I added this section to the NTP Wiki a few weeks ago to address similar questions: http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Support/VMWareNTP We are wrapping up a large virtualization project at my office, and I was surprised how poorly virtual machines keep time. Note that this issue is not specific to VM

[ntp:questions] Time synchronization for hosts running on VMWare

2008-07-14 Thread Danny Mayer
I'm cross-posting this from the Kerberos mailing list since this is useful information for people running O/S's on top of VMWare and people come here for time issues. Danny Original Message >How about using the VMWare-Player for setting up various test machines? >Ciao, Micha