Re: [ntp:questions] lots of GPS modules and info at SparkFun

2012-02-20 Thread Terje Mathisen
David J Taylor wrote: "unruh" wrote in message news:yG90r.2430$ai4.2...@newsfe18.iad... [] Two of my Garmin 18 (not x) seem to have bit the dust after about 3 years. That is in Vancouver, where the winters can be pretty rainy, and the units were unprotected. It must be a kinder climate in Edi

Re: [ntp:questions] lots of GPS modules and info at SparkFun

2012-02-19 Thread Ron Frazier (NTP)
On 02/19/2012 11:51 AM, Dave Hart wrote: On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 18:52, Ron Frazier (NTP) wrote: I don't think that page mentions it, but I now have my unit outputting only the GPZDA NMEA sentence, which seems to give the most accurate timing information and the least jitter. I don't thin

Re: [ntp:questions] lots of GPS modules and info at SparkFun

2012-02-19 Thread David J Taylor
"unruh" wrote in message news:yG90r.2430$ai4.2...@newsfe18.iad... [] Two of my Garmin 18 (not x) seem to have bit the dust after about 3 years. That is in Vancouver, where the winters can be pretty rainy, and the units were unprotected. It must be a kinder climate in Edinburgh - my single GPS

Re: [ntp:questions] lots of GPS modules and info at SparkFun

2012-02-19 Thread unruh
On 2012-02-19, TomK wrote: > FYI: Garmin OEM version 18x LVC 5M is a fun toy, for about 65.00USD. > You have to solder a 9-pin D-sub RS232, but where I am the unit locks on > 6-9 satellites, indoors. I have nine such units, some of which have > lived outdoors and endured at least five years o

Re: [ntp:questions] lots of GPS modules and info at SparkFun

2012-02-19 Thread Dave Hart
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 18:52, Ron Frazier (NTP) wrote: > I don't think that page mentions it, but I now have my unit outputting only > the GPZDA NMEA sentence, which seems to give the most accurate timing > information and the least jitter.  I don't think this sentence has any > position informat

Re: [ntp:questions] lots of GPS modules and info at SparkFun

2012-02-19 Thread TomK
FYI: Garmin OEM version 18x LVC 5M is a fun toy, for about 65.00USD. You have to solder a 9-pin D-sub RS232, but where I am the unit locks on 6-9 satellites, indoors. I have nine such units, some of which have lived outdoors and endured at least five years of -10 F winters and +100 F summers,

Re: [ntp:questions] lots of GPS modules and info at SparkFun

2012-02-14 Thread Ron Frazier (NTP)
Hi Paul, I noticed the module you mentioned uses the Sirf III chipset. I've been doing a good bit of experimentation with a GlobalSat BU-353 (no PPS) which is also based on the same chipset. David Taylor was nice enough to post my experience on his website from a series of dialogs we had.

Re: [ntp:questions] lots of GPS modules and info at SparkFun

2012-02-14 Thread Paul J R
Figure I might chime in with the gps unit I got and if your in Aust i think its probably about the best deals i've seen that has a pps line (theres also another one they have if you can do smd soldering thats cheaper again). http://www.twig.com.au/store/product_info.php?products_id=108&osCsid=148a

Re: [ntp:questions] lots of GPS modules and info at SparkFun

2012-02-13 Thread unruh
On 2012-02-13, Dave Hart wrote: > On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 10:20, Terje Mathisen wrote: >> unruh wrote: >>> GEt the manual from Mediatex MTK NMEA Packet User Manual, which gives a >>> far far more extensive set of nmea programming instructions for the >>> chipset that Sure uses. >> >> >> Does that

Re: [ntp:questions] lots of GPS modules and info at SparkFun

2012-02-13 Thread E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists
Dave Hart wrote: > Unruh and Terje are talking about a MTK (I or II?) chipset. Likely the MediaTek GPS chips (mtk.com.tw); Although there have been others that copied / cloned / started with their protocol, even though they are different GPS chips, their "MTK" protocol is compatible, except

Re: [ntp:questions] lots of GPS modules and info at SparkFun

2012-02-12 Thread Dave Hart
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 10:20, Terje Mathisen wrote: > unruh wrote: >> GEt the manual from Mediatex MTK NMEA Packet User Manual, which gives a >> far far more extensive set of nmea programming instructions for the >> chipset that Sure uses. > > > Does that one have more info than my current program

Re: [ntp:questions] lots of GPS modules and info at SparkFun

2012-02-12 Thread Ron Frazier (NTP)
Hi Unruh, Thanks for the tip. I don't yet own a Sure board. However, if I get one, I'll be sure to look the manual up. Sincerely, Ron On 02/10/2012 07:54 PM, unruh wrote: GEt the manual from Mediatex MTK NMEA Packet User Manual, which gives a far far more extensive set of nmea programming i

Re: [ntp:questions] lots of GPS modules and info at SparkFun

2012-02-11 Thread unruh
On 2012-02-11, Terje Mathisen <"terje.mathisen at tmsw.no"> wrote: > unruh wrote: >> On 2012-02-09, Ron Frazier (NTP) wrote: >>> Assuming it's possible to program the Sure board for GPZDA, it would be >>> interesting to see if doing that affects the performance you're seeing. >>> Of course, if you

Re: [ntp:questions] lots of GPS modules and info at SparkFun

2012-02-11 Thread Terje Mathisen
unruh wrote: On 2012-02-09, Ron Frazier (NTP) wrote: Assuming it's possible to program the Sure board for GPZDA, it would be interesting to see if doing that affects the performance you're seeing. Of course, if you're using PPS, the specific content of the NMEA sentence may not matter as much.

Re: [ntp:questions] lots of GPS modules and info at SparkFun

2012-02-10 Thread unruh
On 2012-02-09, Ron Frazier (NTP) wrote: > On 2/9/2012 4:18 AM, David J Taylor wrote: >>> Hi David, >>> >>> I'm certainly considering that board. It looks very attractive. I'm >>> going to have to read over the documentation page you've put >>> together. It looks very comprehensive. >>> >>> Chr

Re: [ntp:questions] lots of GPS modules and info at SparkFun

2012-02-10 Thread unruh
On 2012-02-09, Ron Frazier (NTP) wrote: > On 2/9/2012 1:34 AM, David J Taylor wrote: >>> Hello all, >>> >>> While researching potential GPS modules to experiment with for PPS >>> output, I discovered that SparkFun has quite a lot of modules, some >>> of which have PPS and some of which don't. Y

Re: [ntp:questions] lots of GPS modules and info at SparkFun

2012-02-09 Thread Ron Frazier (NTP)
On 2/9/2012 12:43 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 1:08 AM, Ron Frazier (NTP) wrote: OK, so I'm replying to my own message, what's strange about that? 8-) VERY preliminary data, after running an hour with my USB GPS without PPS outputting only GPZDA sentences, I'm gettin

Re: [ntp:questions] lots of GPS modules and info at SparkFun

2012-02-09 Thread David J Taylor
Hi David, I just finished reading your Sure board web page. That's a really good write up. I now understand how you're getting the PPS signal. Could you possibly share the rev level of the board, since, if they change the design, you patch instructions may not work any more? Some boards do

Re: [ntp:questions] lots of GPS modules and info at SparkFun

2012-02-09 Thread Chris Albertson
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 1:08 AM, Ron Frazier (NTP) wrote: > OK, so I'm replying to my own message, what's strange about that?  8-) > > VERY preliminary data, after running an hour with my USB GPS without PPS > outputting only GPZDA sentences, I'm getting ~ +/- 5ms peak offsets of the > computer clo

Re: [ntp:questions] lots of GPS modules and info at SparkFun

2012-02-09 Thread Ron Frazier (NTP)
On 2/9/2012 4:18 AM, David J Taylor wrote: Hi David, I'm certainly considering that board. It looks very attractive. I'm going to have to read over the documentation page you've put together. It looks very comprehensive. Chris Albertson said to get a unit which had: 1) - a stationary

Re: [ntp:questions] lots of GPS modules and info at SparkFun

2012-02-09 Thread David J Taylor
Hi David, I'm certainly considering that board. It looks very attractive. I'm going to have to read over the documentation page you've put together. It looks very comprehensive. Chris Albertson said to get a unit which had: 1) - a stationary mode, or possibly only a stationary mode

Re: [ntp:questions] lots of GPS modules and info at SparkFun

2012-02-09 Thread Ron Frazier (NTP)
OK, so I'm replying to my own message, what's strange about that? 8-) VERY preliminary data, after running an hour with my USB GPS without PPS outputting only GPZDA sentences, I'm getting ~ +/- 5ms peak offsets of the computer clock vs GPS. I'm liking it so far. It initially looks more stab

Re: [ntp:questions] lots of GPS modules and info at SparkFun

2012-02-09 Thread Ron Frazier (NTP)
On 2/9/2012 1:34 AM, David J Taylor wrote: Hello all, While researching potential GPS modules to experiment with for PPS output, I discovered that SparkFun has quite a lot of modules, some of which have PPS and some of which don't. You can't necessarily tell from the product page. You have

Re: [ntp:questions] lots of GPS modules and info at SparkFun

2012-02-08 Thread Ron Frazier (NTP)
Hi Brent, I spent a little while skimming over the 254 PAGE! pdf of the manual from the SparkFun website. The device is certainly well documented. I couldn't find where they specify the timing relationship you specify. That's very interesting if it's consistent. I'm currently using a Glob

Re: [ntp:questions] lots of GPS modules and info at SparkFun

2012-02-08 Thread David J Taylor
Hello all, While researching potential GPS modules to experiment with for PPS output, I discovered that SparkFun has quite a lot of modules, some of which have PPS and some of which don't. You can't necessarily tell from the product page. You have to check the data sheet. You can go to the

Re: [ntp:questions] lots of GPS modules and info at SparkFun

2012-02-08 Thread Ron Frazier (NTP)
Found some additional info to share. See below. On 2/8/2012 5:23 PM, Ron Frazier (NTP) wrote: Hello all, While researching potential GPS modules to experiment with for PPS output, I discovered that SparkFun has quite a lot of modules, some of which have PPS and some of which don't. You can'

[ntp:questions] lots of GPS modules and info at SparkFun

2012-02-08 Thread Ron Frazier (NTP)
Hello all, While researching potential GPS modules to experiment with for PPS output, I discovered that SparkFun has quite a lot of modules, some of which have PPS and some of which don't. You can't necessarily tell from the product page. You have to check the data sheet. You can go to the