Re: [ntp:questions] why does asterisk still show after the ntp server is shutdown?

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Re: [ntp:questions] why does asterisk still show after the ntp server is shutdown?

2012-11-17 Thread Uwe Klein
Rob wrote: It is not like most people really need that accuracy, but they get specifications that are written up by people who do not understand how hard it is to achieve them on standard computer and network hardware. IMHO those requirements tend to be from people that have a shallow

Re: [ntp:questions] why does asterisk still show after the ntp server is shutdown?

2012-11-17 Thread Charles Elliott
To: questions@lists.ntp.org Subject: Re: [ntp:questions] why does asterisk still show after the ntp server is shutdown? Rob wrote: It is not like most people really need that accuracy, but they get specifications that are written up by people who do not understand how hard it is to achieve them

Re: [ntp:questions] why does asterisk still show after the ntp server is shutdown?

2012-11-17 Thread unruh
On 2012-11-17, Brian Utterback brian.utterb...@oracle.com wrote: On 11/16/2012 6:03 PM, Rob wrote: Harlan Stenn st...@ntp.org wrote: I don't understand the problem. It doesn't matter why the destination machine is unreachable, or when it becomes unreachable. Time from that source is valid

[ntp:questions] why does asterisk still show after the ntp server is shutdown?

2012-11-16 Thread Jun Hu
now, I need to configure ntp server and client in a private network environment, supposed that: Server A -- client B,servers and clients are all linux physical machine. server A -- ntp.conf server 127.127.1.0 fudge 127.127.1.0 stratum 11 ip is

Re: [ntp:questions] why does asterisk still show after the ntp server is shutdown?

2012-11-16 Thread Jun Hu
Hi David You've only lost three of the last 8 samples from that server. --- where do you get that ? the reach value or other ? From: david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid To: questions@lists.ntp.org Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 11:38:26 + Subject: Re: [ntp:questions] why does asterisk still

Re: [ntp:questions] why does asterisk still show after the ntp server is shutdown?

2012-11-16 Thread David Woolley
Jun Hu wrote: You've only lost three of the last 8 samples from that server. --- where do you get that ? the reach value or other ? Reach is a it map of whether or not each of the last eight polls were returned. 370 is 11 111 000, i.e. Y Y Y Y Y N N N.

Re: [ntp:questions] why does asterisk still show after the ntp server is shutdown?

2012-11-16 Thread Uwe Klein
Jun Hu wrote: Hi David You've only lost three of the last 8 samples from that server. --- where do you get that ? the reach value or other ? reach is a shifted bitstream reach = (reach 1 ) | (reached)?1:0) uwe ___ questions mailing list

Re: [ntp:questions] why does asterisk still show after the ntp server is shutdown?

2012-11-16 Thread Rob
unruh un...@invalid.ca wrote: AFter a while it will. Right now it has only missed three pollings of the server ( and since ntpd throws away 7 out of 8 polls anyway that is too little) so wait another 10 hours and see if the * remains. Your machine has no way of knowing if the other machine is

Re: [ntp:questions] why does asterisk still show after the ntp server is shutdown?

2012-11-16 Thread unruh
received) From: david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid To: questions@lists.ntp.org Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 11:38:26 + Subject: Re: [ntp:questions] why does asterisk still show after the ntp server is shutdown? Jun Hu wrote: remote refidst t when

Re: [ntp:questions] why does asterisk still show after the ntp server is shutdown?

2012-11-16 Thread unruh
On 2012-11-16, Jun Hu duanshui...@hotmail.com wrote: now, I need to configure ntp server and client in a private network environment, supposed that: Server A -- client B,servers and clients are all linux physical machine. server A -- ntp.conf

Re: [ntp:questions] why does asterisk still show after the ntp server is shutdown?

2012-11-16 Thread unruh
On 2012-11-16, Rob nom...@example.com wrote: unruh un...@invalid.ca wrote: AFter a while it will. Right now it has only missed three pollings of the server ( and since ntpd throws away 7 out of 8 polls anyway that is too little) so wait another 10 hours and see if the * remains. Your machine

Re: [ntp:questions] why does asterisk still show after the ntp server is shutdown?

2012-11-16 Thread Rob
unruh un...@invalid.ca wrote: On 2012-11-16, Rob nom...@example.com wrote: unruh un...@invalid.ca wrote: AFter a while it will. Right now it has only missed three pollings of the server ( and since ntpd throws away 7 out of 8 polls anyway that is too little) so wait another 10 hours and see

Re: [ntp:questions] why does asterisk still show after the ntp server is shutdown?

2012-11-16 Thread Harlan Stenn
I don't understand the problem. It doesn't matter why the destination machine is unreachable, or when it becomes unreachable. Time from that source is valid for a while, and after a known number of unsuccessful attempts to reach that server it will be unselected. So what's the issue? H

Re: [ntp:questions] why does asterisk still show after the ntp server is shutdown?

2012-11-16 Thread David Woolley
Rob wrote: The next router upstream will send an ICMP destination unreachable when it cannot resolve the IP address into a hardware address, which normally happens when it gets no reply to its ARP requests. Only once the ARP cache times out, and only if the link level protocol uses ARP.

Re: [ntp:questions] why does asterisk still show after the ntp server is shutdown?

2012-11-16 Thread Rob
David Woolley david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid wrote: Rob wrote: The next router upstream will send an ICMP destination unreachable when it cannot resolve the IP address into a hardware address, which normally happens when it gets no reply to its ARP requests. Only once the ARP cache times

Re: [ntp:questions] why does asterisk still show after the ntp server is shutdown?

2012-11-16 Thread Rob
Harlan Stenn st...@ntp.org wrote: I don't understand the problem. It doesn't matter why the destination machine is unreachable, or when it becomes unreachable. Time from that source is valid for a while, and after a known number of unsuccessful attempts to reach that server it will be

Re: [ntp:questions] why does asterisk still show after the ntp server is shutdown?

2012-11-16 Thread Jun Hu
said. From: nom...@example.com To: questions@lists.ntp.org Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 23:03:18 + Subject: Re: [ntp:questions] why does asterisk still show after the ntp server is shutdown? Harlan Stenn st...@ntp.org wrote: I don't understand the problem. It doesn't matter

Re: [ntp:questions] why does asterisk still show after the ntp server is shutdown?

2012-11-16 Thread Brian Utterback
On 11/16/2012 6:03 PM, Rob wrote: Harlan Stenn st...@ntp.org wrote: I don't understand the problem. It doesn't matter why the destination machine is unreachable, or when it becomes unreachable. Time from that source is valid for a while, and after a known number of unsuccessful attempts to