Re: [Ext] Consensus call for qlog serialization format (issue #144)

2021-08-06 Thread Robin MARX
Hello all, Thank you for the excellent discussion on this and sorry for my silence. As Lucas has said multiple times, I don't think we should take the current text too much as direct gospel for this consensus call. To me, it is indeed much more a question of agreement on going for "a" JSON

Re: [Ext] Consensus call for qlog serialization format (issue #144)

2021-08-05 Thread Lucas Pardue
Hi Paul, On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 5:41 PM Paul Hoffman wrote: > > > We are having a disconnect here that is central to the question in this > consensus call. The original call said: > > > The feeling in the room was to keep the JSON serialization format. > Noting that implementations can use

Re: [Ext] Consensus call for qlog serialization format (issue #144)

2021-08-05 Thread Roberto Peon
From: QUIC on behalf of Spencer Dawkins at IETF Date: Thursday, August 5, 2021 at 10:18 AM To: Roberto Peon Cc: Paul Hoffman , QUIC WG , QUIC WG Chairs , Lucas Pardue Subject: Re: [Ext] Consensus call for qlog serialization format (issue #144) On this point ... On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 11:55

Re: [Ext] Consensus call for qlog serialization format (issue #144)

2021-08-05 Thread Spencer Dawkins at IETF
On this point ... On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 11:55 AM Roberto Peon wrote: > Including at least one interoperable format is good. > Having it be ascii is annoying (not very performant, requires more I/O, > and thus decreases the fidelity at which we can ultimately capture events) > …but it is

Re: [Ext] Consensus call for qlog serialization format (issue #144)

2021-08-05 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Aug 5, 2021, at 5:20 AM, Lucas Pardue wrote: > On Mon, Aug 2, 2021 at 7:38 PM Paul Hoffman wrote: > >> On Aug 2, 2021, at 10:52 AM, Lucas Pardue wrote: >> > The intention here is to determine consensus on using _a JSON_ >> > serialization and not a completely different format. >> >> The

Re: [Ext] Consensus call for qlog serialization format (issue #144)

2021-08-05 Thread Roberto Peon
: Thursday, August 5, 2021 at 5:21 AM To: Paul Hoffman Cc: QUIC WG , QUIC WG Chairs Subject: Re: [Ext] Consensus call for qlog serialization format (issue #144) Hi Paul, On Mon, Aug 2, 2021 at 7:38 PM Paul Hoffman mailto:paul.hoff...@icann.org>> wrote: On Aug 2, 2021, at 10:52 AM, Lucas

Re: [Ext] Consensus call for qlog serialization format (issue #144)

2021-08-05 Thread Lucas Pardue
Hi Paul, On Mon, Aug 2, 2021 at 7:38 PM Paul Hoffman wrote: > > On Aug 2, 2021, at 10:52 AM, Lucas Pardue > wrote: > > The intention here is to determine consensus on using _a JSON_ > serialization and not a completely different format. > > The associated question, which was not asked on this

Re: [Ext] Consensus call for qlog serialization format (issue #144)

2021-08-02 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Aug 2, 2021, at 10:52 AM, Lucas Pardue wrote: > The intention here is to determine consensus on using _a JSON_ serialization > and not a completely different format. The associated question, which was not asked on this thread is "should there be any serialization format chosen, or just a

Re: [Ext] Consensus call for qlog serialization format (issue #144)

2021-08-02 Thread Lucas Pardue
Hi Paul, Response in-line: On Mon, Aug 2, 2021 at 4:59 PM Paul Hoffman wrote: > On Aug 2, 2021, at 6:23 AM, Lucas Pardue > wrote: > > > > Hello QUIC WG, > > > > During the IETF 111 meeting discussion of qlog, we discussed the > serialization format tracked on issue #114 [1]. > > > > The

Re: [Ext] Consensus call for qlog serialization format (issue #144)

2021-08-02 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Aug 2, 2021, at 6:23 AM, Lucas Pardue wrote: > > Hello QUIC WG, > > During the IETF 111 meeting discussion of qlog, we discussed the > serialization format tracked on issue #114 [1]. > > The feeling in the room was to keep the JSON serialization format. Noting > that implementations can