Re: [Rd] Problems building R 2.9.0... on SGI and Sun once again

2009-04-23 Thread Darin A. England
Many thanks to Peter for the explanation. I found that the fix for me was to set the environment variable R_SHELL to '/usr/bin/bash', otherwise (on my AIX system at least) the shell being used was /bin/sh. Darin On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 10:54:31AM -0500, Darin England wrote: > I have the same pro

Re: [Rd] License status of CRAN packages

2009-04-23 Thread Greg Snow
I don't know about the legal definitions of all, but a few years back the British Medical Journal had a filler article that looked at some surveys of what people thought different words meant (you can get at the filler by going to http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/333/7565/442 and downloading

Re: [Rd] Closed-source non-free ParallelR ?

2009-04-23 Thread Gabor Grothendieck
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 8:54 PM, Ted Harding wrote: > On 23-Apr-09 22:21:45, Ian Fellows wrote: >> Assuming that the foundation does not want to deviate from the >> FSF interpretation, there would still be value in clarifying its >> position vis-à-vis how the license applies to R specifically. > >

Re: [Rd] Closed-source non-free ParallelR ?

2009-04-23 Thread Ted Harding
On 23-Apr-09 22:21:45, Ian Fellows wrote: > Assuming that the foundation does not want to deviate from the > FSF interpretation, there would still be value in clarifying its > position vis-à-vis how the license applies to R specifically. I think (see below) that I agree with this! > For example

Re: [Rd] Closed-source non-free ParallelR ?

2009-04-23 Thread Stavros Macrakis
I said: >> ...The GPL FAQs are the FSF's interpretation.  The R Foundation is not >> obliged to have the same interpretation, and of course the FSF cannot >> enforce licenses given by the R Foundation On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Marc Schwartz wrote: > Underlying all of your comments seem

Re: [Rd] reference counting problem in .Primitive's?

2009-04-23 Thread luke
On Thu, 23 Apr 2009, William Dunlap wrote: -Original Message- From: l...@stat.uiowa.edu [mailto:l...@stat.uiowa.edu] Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 11:06 AM To: William Dunlap Cc: r-devel@r-project.org Subject: Re: [Rd] reference counting problem in .Primitive's? On Thu, 23 Apr 2009, Wi

Re: [Rd] reference counting problem in .Primitive's?

2009-04-23 Thread William Dunlap
> -Original Message- > From: l...@stat.uiowa.edu [mailto:l...@stat.uiowa.edu] > Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 11:06 AM > To: William Dunlap > Cc: r-devel@r-project.org > Subject: Re: [Rd] reference counting problem in .Primitive's? > > On Thu, 23 Apr 2009, William Dunlap wrote: > > > I

Re: [Rd] Closed-source non-free ParallelR ?

2009-04-23 Thread Ian Fellows
Assuming that the foundation does not want to deviate from the FSF interpretation, there would still be value in clarifying its position vis-à-vis how the license applies to R specifically. For example the FSF foundation claims that linking to a library (even in an interpreted environment) makes

Re: [Rd] Closed-source non-free ParallelR ?

2009-04-23 Thread Marc Schwartz
On Apr 23, 2009, at 3:22 PM, Stavros Macrakis wrote: On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Marc Schwartz wrote: On Apr 23, 2009, at 11:47 AM, Stavros Macrakis wrote: All that being said, the entity that must enforce these conditions is not the FSF, but the copyright owner, in this case the R

Re: [Rd] License status of CRAN packages

2009-04-23 Thread Ben Goodrich
Gabor Grothendieck wrote: > On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Ben Goodrich > wrote: >> Dirk Eddelbuettel debian.org> writes: >>> As a non-exhautive list with possible misclassifications, cran2deb currently >>> has these packasges as 'maybe not free' and does not build them: >>> >>> BARD,Baye

Re: [Rd] Closed-source non-free ParallelR ?

2009-04-23 Thread Fraser Sim
Hi Matt, Do you know if a project like R(D)COM/Statconn can changing their license to make it closed-source? (www.statconn.com & http://rcom.univie.ac.at/ ) There was discussion on the RCom board about such changes earlier this year as they move toward commercialization. If you're not familiar it

Re: [Rd] License status of CRAN packages

2009-04-23 Thread Gabor Grothendieck
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Ben Goodrich wrote: > Dirk Eddelbuettel debian.org> writes: >> As a non-exhautive list with possible misclassifications, cran2deb currently >> has these packasges as 'maybe not free' and does not build them: >> >>      BARD,BayesDA,CoCo,ConvCalendar,FAiR,PTAk,RSca

Re: [Rd] Closed-source non-free ParallelR ?

2009-04-23 Thread Max Kuhn
> REvolution appear to be offering ParallelR only when bundled with their R > Enterprise edition. As such it appears to be non-free and closed source. >http://www.revolution-computing.com/products/parallel-r.php Have you also looked at: http://nws-r.sourceforge.net/ The core of their Pa

Re: [Rd] License status of CRAN packages

2009-04-23 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
On 23 April 2009 at 16:35, Gabor Grothendieck wrote: | Of the 31 packages listed: | [1] "BARD" "BayesDA" "CoCo" "ConvCalendar" | [5] "FAiR" "PTAk" "RScaLAPACK""Rcsdp" | [9] "SDDA" "SGP" "alphahull" "ash" | [13] "asypow"

Re: [Rd] License status of CRAN packages

2009-04-23 Thread Ben Goodrich
Dirk Eddelbuettel debian.org> writes: > As a non-exhautive list with possible misclassifications, cran2deb currently > has these packasges as 'maybe not free' and does not build them: > > BARD,BayesDA,CoCo,ConvCalendar,FAiR,PTAk,RScaLAPACK,Rcsdp,SDDA,SGP, > alphahull,ash,asypow,caMassCl

Re: [Rd] License status of CRAN packages

2009-04-23 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
On 23 April 2009 at 15:35, Marc Schwartz wrote: | There is a list of acceptable entries that are defined as part of the | specs in R-exts (see page 4). Perhaps this needs to be "tightened" a | bit, at least in so far as packages passing R CMD check for the | purpose of inclusion on CRAN. Tha

Re: [Rd] License status of CRAN packages

2009-04-23 Thread Gabor Grothendieck
In some other software systems there are separate repositories for free and non-free add-ons. That way its clear what you are downloading yet there are good outlets for both types of software. There has been some discussion of future features that CRAN might have that might make this even easier

Re: [Rd] License status of CRAN packages

2009-04-23 Thread Gabor Grothendieck
Of the 31 packages listed: [1] "BARD" "BayesDA" "CoCo" "ConvCalendar" [5] "FAiR" "PTAk" "RScaLAPACK""Rcsdp" [9] "SDDA" "SGP" "alphahull" "ash" [13] "asypow""caMassClass" "gpclib""mapproj" [17] "matlab"

Re: [Rd] License status of CRAN packages

2009-04-23 Thread Marc Schwartz
On Apr 23, 2009, at 3:02 PM, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: On 23 April 2009 at 15:32, Gabor Grothendieck wrote: | On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: | > | > (Subject: renamed as thread hijacked from the ParallelR thread --Dirk) | > | > On 23 April 2009 at 14:44, Gabor

Re: [Rd] Closed-source non-free ParallelR ?

2009-04-23 Thread Stavros Macrakis
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Marc Schwartz wrote: > On Apr 23, 2009, at 11:47 AM, Stavros Macrakis wrote: >> >> All that being said, the entity that must enforce these conditions is >> not the FSF, but the copyright owner, in this case the R Foundation... >> bundler. So it would be useful to k

Re: [Rd] License status of CRAN packages

2009-04-23 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
On 23 April 2009 at 15:32, Gabor Grothendieck wrote: | On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: | > | > (Subject: renamed as thread hijacked from the ParallelR thread --Dirk) | > | > On 23 April 2009 at 14:44, Gabor Grothendieck wrote: | > | Aside from R there are the add-on pa

Re: [Rd] License status of CRAN packages

2009-04-23 Thread Gabor Grothendieck
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: > > (Subject: renamed as thread hijacked from the ParallelR thread   --Dirk) > > On 23 April 2009 at 14:44, Gabor Grothendieck wrote: > | Aside from R there are the add-on packages. > | > | A frequency table showing the licenses of the CRAN

[Rd] License status of CRAN packages

2009-04-23 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
(Subject: renamed as thread hijacked from the ParallelR thread --Dirk) On 23 April 2009 at 14:44, Gabor Grothendieck wrote: | Aside from R there are the add-on packages. | | A frequency table showing the licenses of the CRAN packages indicates | that the all or almost all packages have some so

Re: [Rd] Closed-source non-free ParallelR ?

2009-04-23 Thread Gabor Grothendieck
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Friedrich Leisch wrote: >> On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 00:36:48 +0100, >> Matthew Dowle (MD) wrote: > > [...] > >  > Could someone from the R Foundation or the FSF step in and clarify the >  > situation please ? > > Just a short clarification (by no means intended

Re: [Rd] reference counting problem in .Primitive's?

2009-04-23 Thread luke
On Thu, 23 Apr 2009, William Dunlap wrote: I think the following rather wierd expressions show a problem in how some of the .Primitive functions evaluate their arguments. I haven't yet thought of a way that a nonabusive user might run into this problem. In each case the first argument, x, is mo

Re: [Rd] Closed-source non-free ParallelR ?

2009-04-23 Thread Friedrich Leisch
> On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 00:36:48 +0100, > Matthew Dowle (MD) wrote: [...] > Could someone from the R Foundation or the FSF step in and clarify the > situation please ? Just a short clarification (by no means intended to stop the thread): as you can imagine we are discussing the matter

Re: [Rd] Closed-source non-free ParallelR ?

2009-04-23 Thread Marc Schwartz
On Apr 23, 2009, at 11:47 AM, Stavros Macrakis wrote: All that being said, the entity that must enforce these conditions is not the FSF, but the copyright owner, in this case the R Foundation and the copyright holders of any other packages redistributed by the bundler. So it would be useful to k

[Rd] reference counting problem in .Primitive's?

2009-04-23 Thread William Dunlap
I think the following rather wierd expressions show a problem in how some of the .Primitive functions evaluate their arguments. I haven't yet thought of a way that a nonabusive user might run into this problem. In each case the first argument, x, is modified in the course of evaluating the second

Re: [Rd] 'is.integer' (PR#13671)

2009-04-23 Thread Latchezar (Lucho) Dimitrov
Hey core-developers, With all the respect to your precious time and beliefs isn't that phenomenon (as many others similar ones) due to deficiencies in the R docs/FAQ's/etc? I hate to think you assume all other R users are malicious idiots trying to spoil your time. Thanks you very much, Latcheza

Re: [Rd] Closed-source non-free ParallelR ?

2009-04-23 Thread Stavros Macrakis
The FSF clearly promulgated the GPL with the intent of prohibiting the bundling of GPL code with proprietary code. The way the GPL does this is by putting conditions on distribution: if you "distribute" a program "based on" a GPL program, the whole program must be licensed under the GPL. Clearly,

Re: [Rd] Closed-source non-free ParallelR ?

2009-04-23 Thread Sim, Fraser
Hi Matt, Do you know if a project like R(D)COM/Statconn can changing their license to make it closed-source? (www.statconn.com & http://rcom.univie.ac.at/ ) There was discussion on the RCom board about such changes earlier this year as they move toward commercialization. If you're not familiar it

Re: [Rd] Problems building R 2.9.0... on SGI and Sun once again

2009-04-23 Thread Peter Dalgaard
Darin A. England wrote: > I have the same problem trying build R 2.9.0 on AIX using the IBM > Visual Age compilers and GNU make. I'm trying to figure it out, but > any hints on a fix are greatly appreciated. This seems to come from constructions of the form for i in $FOO : do ; done If $F

Re: [Rd] Closed-source non-free ParallelR ?

2009-04-23 Thread Matthew Dowle
how could it [MCE] swap a GPL license for the BSD? Because the BSD is an open source license compatible with GPL. See http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/index_html#GPLCompatibleLicenses derivative work Points taken. It may not be derivation in the sense of modification, more in the sense

Re: [Rd] Problems building R 2.9.0... on SGI and Sun once again

2009-04-23 Thread Darin A. England
I have the same problem trying build R 2.9.0 on AIX using the IBM Visual Age compilers and GNU make. I'm trying to figure it out, but any hints on a fix are greatly appreciated. Thanks, Darin gmake[2]: Entering directory `/home/denglan/R/builddir/src/library/methods' building package 'methods' mk

Re: [Rd] 'is.integer' (PR#13671)

2009-04-23 Thread Mauricio Zambrano
Thanks for the clear answer Stephen and thanks to all the guys that pointed out my misunderstanding about the distinction between object of type integer" and "integer-valued object". I'm sorry for submitting to the R-bugs list something that is very clear for all the members of the list, but it wa

Re: [Rd] RFC: Ability to suppress 'locale' from sessionInfo

2009-04-23 Thread Friedrich Leisch
> On Wed, 22 Apr 2009 12:49:05 -0700, > Kasper Daniel Hansen (KDH) wrote: > This is a better way, it does two things > a) enclose the itemize environment in a flushleft environment - this > gives us much better line breaks for the verb. > b) does a replace of ";" with ";| \verb|"

[Rd] Suggestion for changing r-project.org webpage text around bug reporting (was Re: 'is.integer' (PR#13671))

2009-04-23 Thread Tony Plate
Martin Maechler wrote: "SM" == Stavros Macrakis on Wed, 22 Apr 2009 16:30:36 -0400 writes: SM> Dear R experts, SM> You are being a bit harsh on this user. No! (see below) SM> He simply doesn't understand SM> the distinction between "object of type integer"

Re: [Rd] matplot does not considere the parametre lend (PR#13619)

2009-04-23 Thread maechler
> "DM" == Duncan Murdoch > on Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:35:15 -0400 writes: DM> On 23/03/2009 7:25 PM, cgeno...@u-paris10.fr wrote: >> Full_Name: Christophe Genolini >> Version: 2.8.1, but also 2.9 >> OS: Windows XP >> Submission from: (NULL) (82.225.59.146) >>

[Rd] Custom browser prompt instead of Browse[1]>

2009-04-23 Thread Romain Francois
Hello, Would it be possible to have a custom prompt when browser()'ing. I have made a simple implementation of this (which is attached), the basic idea is that instead of the hardcoded sprintf( "Browser[%d]> ", browselevel), a call to the getBrowsePrompt is made, and obviously the function is

Re: [Rd] incorrect output and segfaults from sprintf with %*d (PR#13667)

2009-04-23 Thread maechler
> "vQ" == Wacek Kusnierczyk > on Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:00:29 +0200 writes: vQ> Martin Maechler wrote: >>> "vQ" == Wacek Kusnierczyk >>> on Thu, 23 Apr 2009 11:49:54 +0200 writes: [..] [..] >> >> BTW, >> >> 1) spri

Re: [Rd] incorrect output and segfaults from sprintf with %*d (PR#13667)

2009-04-23 Thread Waclaw . Marcin . Kusnierczyk
Martin Maechler wrote: >> "vQ" == Wacek Kusnierczyk >> on Thu, 23 Apr 2009 11:49:54 +0200 writes: >> > > vQ> maech...@stat.math.ethz.ch wrote: > >> > vQ> sprintf has a documented limit on strings included in the output > using the > vQ> format '%s'.

Re: [Rd] 'is.integer' (PR#13671)

2009-04-23 Thread hadley wickham
> *However*, Mauricio submitted a *formal* bug report against R > and there are many caveats against doing that "light-heartedly". > Note that he also said I know it's frustrating when people repeatedly ask this question (and file bug reports related to it), but does it really take that long to te

Re: [Rd] 'is.integer' (PR#13671)

2009-04-23 Thread Petr Savicky
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 11:37:37AM +0200, Martin Maechler wrote: [snip] > TP> To test whether a value is an integer value, you can so something > like this: > > >> is.wholenumber <- function(x, tolerance = .Machine$double.eps^0.5) > TP> return(abs(x - round(x)) < tolerance) > >>

Re: [Rd] incorrect output and segfaults from sprintf with %*d (PR#13667)

2009-04-23 Thread maechler
> "vQ" == Wacek Kusnierczyk > on Thu, 23 Apr 2009 11:49:54 +0200 writes: vQ> maech...@stat.math.ethz.ch wrote: >> vQ> sprintf has a documented limit on strings included in the output using the vQ> format '%s'. It appears that there is a limit on the length of string

Re: [Rd] incorrect output and segfaults from sprintf with %*d (PR#13667)

2009-04-23 Thread Wacek Kusnierczyk
maech...@stat.math.ethz.ch wrote: > > vQ> sprintf has a documented limit on strings included in the output > using the > vQ> format '%s'. It appears that there is a limit on the length of > strings included > vQ> with, e.g., the format '%d' beyond which surprising things happen > (o

Re: [Rd] 'is.integer' (PR#13671)

2009-04-23 Thread Martin Maechler
> "TP" == Tony Plate > on Wed, 22 Apr 2009 14:37:05 -0600 writes: TP> is.integer() is one of those functions with a name that can be confusing TP> -- it looks at the underlying storage type of its argument (e.g., TP> integer, floating point, character, etc.) not at the

Re: [Rd] 'is.integer' (PR#13671)

2009-04-23 Thread Martin Maechler
> "SM" == Stavros Macrakis > on Wed, 22 Apr 2009 16:30:36 -0400 writes: SM> Dear R experts, SM> You are being a bit harsh on this user. No! (see below) SM> He simply doesn't understand SM> the distinction between "object of type integer" and "integer-valued SM>

Re: [Rd] 'is.integer' (PR#13671)

2009-04-23 Thread Petr Savicky
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 04:30:36PM -0400, Stavros Macrakis wrote: [snip] > Now consider 1e40, which has the property > that floor(x)==x==ceiling(x), which you might think characterizes an > integer; but it also has the property that x+1 == x. Similarly for > 1/3 * 1e40. [snip] The number 1/3 * 1