Re: [Rd] Duncan's retirement: who's taking over Rtools?

2017-09-28 Thread Spencer Graves
  I concur with Moshe.  David and his team have done great thing for R, but a lion will not become a vegetarian.  I think that any reasonable reading of Microsoft's history will supports that perspective.  However, this is a fairly well documented phenomenon far beyond Microsoft.  Jean Tiro

Re: [Rd] Duncan's retirement: who's taking over Rtools?

2017-09-28 Thread Moshe Olshansky via R-devel
I think that even though some Microsoft employees may have good intentions Microsoft as a company can not be trusted. There will be always a danger that they will try to create their own version of R which works only on Windows and that will become increasingly divergent from "other" R. We witne

Re: [Rd] Duncan's retirement: who's taking over Rtools?

2017-09-28 Thread Martyn Plummer
David, I think ideally we want to appoint a single person to take primary responsibility for the Windows builds. We are currently discussing this within R Core. We also recognize that Microsoft is a stakeholder in R for Windows. The same is true of other members of the R Consortium. Going forward

Re: [Rd] Duncan's retirement: who's taking over Rtools?

2017-09-28 Thread Avraham Adler
On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 11:47 AM, David Smith via R-devel wrote: > The Microsoft R team is willing and able to produce builds for R on Windows > going forward. As Duncan noted, we've been doing this already for some time > for MRAN. I'd love to hear thoughts from this community on what that migh

Re: [Rd] Duncan's retirement: who's taking over Rtools?

2017-09-28 Thread Avraham Adler
On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 11:27 AM, Joris Meys wrote: > Dear dev team, > > I was sorry to see the announcement of Duncan about his retirement from > maintaining the R Windows build and Rtools. Duncan, thank you incredibly > much for your 15 years of devotion and your impressive contribution to the >

Re: [Rd] Duncan's retirement: who's taking over Rtools?

2017-09-28 Thread David Smith via R-devel
Likewise, a hearty THANK YOU from me and the rest of the team at Microsoft for all the work you, Duncan, have put into making R available for Windows users around the world over the past 15 years. I know it wasn't easy (Windows is not without its quirks), but R users everywhere, ourselves includ

[Rd] Duncan's retirement: who's taking over Rtools?

2017-09-28 Thread Joris Meys
Dear dev team, I was sorry to see the announcement of Duncan about his retirement from maintaining the R Windows build and Rtools. Duncan, thank you incredibly much for your 15 years of devotion and your impressive contribution to the R community as a whole. Thinking about the future, I wondered

Re: [Rd] logic ops with zero-extent raw vectors

2017-09-28 Thread Martin Maechler
> Lukas Stadler > on Wed, 27 Sep 2017 17:36:15 +0200 writes: > Hi, > there was a change concerning logical operations about a year ago: > https://github.com/wch/r-source/commit/9e19d3e3dd5f657b5cfefe562bdd7ede2e2b8786 > It's related to a discussion on this list: >