Walter,
With the various answers you got to your simple question, you notice
that there are several ways to feed commands into R and retrieve the
results. If you just need to occasionnally feed commands that does not
take a long time to process, and can afford to frozen your GUI during
those
James Wettenhall schreef op de 21e dag van de wijnmaand van het jaar 2005:
We may have to agree to disagree about some things, but I hope
this has made my point of view a little clearer.
Actually, your elaborate response makes much sense to me. I
understand now that it is not just about
On Oct 21, 2005, at 8:53 AM, Peter Kleiweg wrote:
James Wettenhall schreef op de 21e dag van de wijnmaand van het
jaar 2005:
We may have to agree to disagree about some things, but I hope
this has made my point of view a little clearer.
Actually, your elaborate response makes much
James Wettenhall schreef op de 20e dag van de wijnmaand van het jaar 2005:
[...]
providing a GUI to them, getting started in R is less
intimidating for them, so then we can hopefully spend less
time doing mundane numerical computing tasks for our
collaborators and have more time to do our
If you want users to be productive, you have to give them
something they can easily incorporate within the tools they use
on a daily basis. No big applications with everything locked in,
but a set of programs or commands that do specific tasks, with
an easy to understand input and output. You
A couple of non-flame comments and a question -
(1) I have used Smalltalk in various forms and recommend it
highly as an environment (try Squeak for a free implementation);
it is the origin of the model-view-controller paradigm for
interaction with a GUI. Tcl/Tk is also nice with its
event-driven
Walter Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 10/20/2005 12:21:09 PM:
A couple of non-flame comments and a question -
(1) I have used Smalltalk in various forms and recommend it
highly as an environment (try Squeak for a free implementation);
it is the origin of the model-view-controller
Is there a simple way (e.g. some socket based mechanism) to
feed commands into R and retrieve the results of those commands?
This would require that I program the sequence of commands I
want to use (or a means to generate them) and then be able parse
the resulting structure - I understand.
On 10/20/05, Walter Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there a simple way (e.g. some socket based mechanism) to
feed commands into R and retrieve the results of those commands?
This would require that I program the sequence of commands I
want to use (or a means to generate them) and then
On Oct 20, 2005, at 9:21 AM, Walter Johnston wrote:
And the question:
Is there a simple way (e.g. some socket based mechanism) to
feed commands into R and retrieve the results of those commands?
This would require that I program the sequence of commands I
want to use (or a means to
Hi Peter and everyone,
[Hmmm, didn't I say I was not really interested in spending time getting
into these discussions anymore? Oh well, I can't help myself. ;-) ]
Why would you want a GUI for something like R in the first
place? It is a programming language. That is its force. Nothing
beats
Hi All,
While I don't have the sweat equity that either Philippe Grosjean
and James Wettenhall have in developing R GUI's, I have been involved
in two different projects (obveRsive as part of the founding
development team, and R Commander as a contributor) over the past
three years. In
Dear Marc et al.,
As the author of an R GUI, I've been following this thread with
interest.
I think that both a session at the UseR! conference and a more informal
meeting to provide an opportunity for discussion are a great idea. It's
hard to make much progress on this kind of issue via email
For example, there is a need in proteomics for a special-purpose
proteomics-based statistical graphics engine and GUI. In this context,
for example, over this past year SAS has released a special-purpose
plotting engine built on top of their JMP system, that I believe is very
good. One
Hi,
One point I forgot to make last time is that I'm a big fan of prototyping.
I have almost no experience whatsoever in Java Swing, but there are
plenty of people in the R community who do - e.g. Simon Urbanek and the
JGR team. In the past, I have had trouble finding any elegant prototypes
Hin-Tak Leung [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi,
Since you mentioned tcltk2 and python+wxWidgets, what about Tkinter
(python's built-in binding to tk)? It is somewhere between the two,
and is shipped as standard these days with python 2.x. Also, if Perl/Tk
works, and Tkinter works, there is no
On Sat, 15 Oct 2005, Duncan Temple Lang wrote:
I think it is a little premature to entirely discount
Gtk2, especially if it is based on Philippe's remark
below. Philippe, did you try other applications,
different themes, different configurations, or just the vanilla GIMP?
and when? While I
On 16 October 2005 at 14:04, Prof Brian Ripley wrote:
| whereas I have seen some Qt-based ones I really liked.
Qt is C++, cross-platform using native widgets on OS X and Win and (since
more recently) available without fee or license woes provided it is used for
GPL'ed code.
So it satisfies
Hi,
Qt is C++, cross-platform using native widgets on OS X and Win and (since
more recently) available without fee or license woes provided it is used
for GPL'ed code.
So it satisfies both the requirement to make it look and feel native
whereever possible, and satisfies the preference for
Greetings all,
While recognizing that this is easier said, than done, is there any
logic in suggesting that for those who might be interested, a specific R
GUI session of sorts be added to the UseR! 2006 meeting schedule?
Since some quorum of interested GUI users may be planning to attend the
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I think it is a little premature to entirely discount
Gtk2, especially if it is based on Philippe's remark
below. Philippe, did you try other applications,
different themes, different configurations, or just the vanilla GIMP?
and when? While I don't
Hi Philippe and everyone else,
As you know, I have certainly spent some time thinking about R-GUIs, and
developing some R-Tcl/Tk GUIs - limmaGUI and affylmGUI (available from
Bioconductor). I have also spent some time wishing we could use a GUI
toolkit with a more modern look and feel. Hence I
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