Re: [Rd] RFC: allow packages to advertise vignettes on Windows

2007-05-18 Thread hadley wickham
> On 5/18/2007 11:11 AM, hadley wickham wrote: > > On 5/18/07, Duncan Murdoch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I think we've agreed about adding an option to the vignette() function > >> to allow the user to choose to see all vignettes in installed packages, > >> or only those that are attached. Ad

Re: [Rd] RFC: allow packages to advertise vignettes on Windows

2007-05-18 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 5/18/2007 11:11 AM, hadley wickham wrote: > On 5/18/07, Duncan Murdoch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I think we've agreed about adding an option to the vignette() function >> to allow the user to choose to see all vignettes in installed packages, >> or only those that are attached. Adding this

Re: [Rd] RFC: allow packages to advertise vignettes on Windows

2007-05-18 Thread Gabor Grothendieck
Perhaps all the arguments in demo, data and vignette should be regularized to be consistent, not just this one. On 5/18/07, Duncan Murdoch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think we've agreed about adding an option to the vignette() function > to allow the user to choose to see all vignettes in insta

Re: [Rd] RFC: allow packages to advertise vignettes on Windows

2007-05-18 Thread hadley wickham
On 5/18/07, Duncan Murdoch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think we've agreed about adding an option to the vignette() function > to allow the user to choose to see all vignettes in installed packages, > or only those that are attached. Adding this is pretty trivial, and > I'll put it into R-devel

Re: [Rd] RFC: allow packages to advertise vignettes on Windows

2007-05-18 Thread Duncan Murdoch
I think we've agreed about adding an option to the vignette() function to allow the user to choose to see all vignettes in installed packages, or only those that are attached. Adding this is pretty trivial, and I'll put it into R-devel soon. I'd like to set the default to show only attached pa

Re: [Rd] RFC: allow packages to advertise vignettes on Windows

2007-05-16 Thread Martin Maechler
> "Duncan" == Duncan Murdoch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > on Wed, 16 May 2007 12:51:35 -0400 writes: Duncan> On 5/16/2007 11:58 AM, Simon Urbanek wrote: >> Um .. I'm not quite sure I understand - all you have to do is >> v=vignette(); v$results[v$results[,1] %in% search(),] >>

Re: [Rd] RFC: allow packages to advertise vignettes on Windows

2007-05-16 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 5/16/2007 11:58 AM, Simon Urbanek wrote: > Um .. I'm not quite sure I understand - all you have to do is > v=vignette(); v$results[v$results[,1] %in% search(),] > or am I missing something? In the interest of avoiding duplication and speeding up the calculation, I'd put this into the vignette

Re: [Rd] RFC: allow packages to advertise vignettes on Windows

2007-05-16 Thread Simon Urbanek
On May 16, 2007, at 11:36 AM, Seth Falcon wrote: > Simon Urbanek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Seth, >> >> we already *have* vignette registration in place [vignette()] and we >> already *have* support in the GUIs (I'm talking e.g. about the Mac >> GUI here which uses vignette() to build a vig

Re: [Rd] RFC: allow packages to advertise vignettes on Windows

2007-05-16 Thread Seth Falcon
Simon Urbanek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Seth, > > we already *have* vignette registration in place [vignette()] and we > already *have* support in the GUIs (I'm talking e.g. about the Mac > GUI here which uses vignette() to build a vignettes browser). Yes, fine. I agree that vignette() provi

Re: [Rd] RFC: allow packages to advertise vignettes on Windows

2007-05-16 Thread Simon Urbanek
On May 16, 2007, at 7:38 AM, Duncan Murdoch wrote: > On 15/05/2007 6:59 PM, Seth Falcon wrote: >> Simon Urbanek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> On May 15, 2007, at 1:57 PM, Prof Brian Ripley wrote: >>> On Mon, 14 May 2007, Seth Falcon wrote: > Duncan Murdoch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writ

Re: [Rd] RFC: allow packages to advertise vignettes on Windows

2007-05-16 Thread Simon Urbanek
Seth, we already *have* vignette registration in place [vignette()] and we already *have* support in the GUIs (I'm talking e.g. about the Mac GUI here which uses vignette() to build a vignettes browser). What you propose circumvents all the mechanisms already in place and adds replicates th

Re: [Rd] RFC: allow packages to advertise vignettes on Windows

2007-05-16 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 15/05/2007 6:59 PM, Seth Falcon wrote: > Simon Urbanek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> On May 15, 2007, at 1:57 PM, Prof Brian Ripley wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 14 May 2007, Seth Falcon wrote: >>> Duncan Murdoch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm interested in making vignettes more visible.

Re: [Rd] RFC: allow packages to advertise vignettes on Windows

2007-05-15 Thread Gabor Grothendieck
Just a few other points: - vignettes are potentially of interest even before you download the package in order to decide whether the package is of interest. The discussion so far here does not address that. If I am interested in mypackage I will typically google for CRAN mypackage and then loo

Re: [Rd] RFC: allow packages to advertise vignettes on Windows

2007-05-15 Thread Seth Falcon
Simon Urbanek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On May 15, 2007, at 1:57 PM, Prof Brian Ripley wrote: > >> On Mon, 14 May 2007, Seth Falcon wrote: >> >>> Duncan Murdoch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I'm interested in making vignettes more visible. Putting them on the menu is not the only

Re: [Rd] RFC: allow packages to advertise vignettes on Windows

2007-05-15 Thread Simon Urbanek
On May 15, 2007, at 1:57 PM, Prof Brian Ripley wrote: > On Mon, 14 May 2007, Seth Falcon wrote: > >> Duncan Murdoch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> I'm interested in making vignettes more visible. Putting them on >>> the >>> menu is not the only way, but since you're offering to do the >>> w

Re: [Rd] RFC: allow packages to advertise vignettes on Windows

2007-05-15 Thread Prof Brian Ripley
On Mon, 14 May 2007, Seth Falcon wrote: > Duncan Murdoch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I'm interested in making vignettes more visible. Putting them on the >> menu is not the only way, but since you're offering to do the work, I >> think it's a good idea :-). > > Excellent :-) > >> A few questio

Re: [Rd] RFC: allow packages to advertise vignettes on Windows

2007-05-15 Thread Simon Urbanek
On May 14, 2007, at 7:15 PM, Seth Falcon wrote: > Hello, > > The vignette concept, which started in Bioconductor, seems to be > catching on. They are supported by R CMD build/check and > documented in the Writing R Extensions manual. I think vignettes > are a fantastic way to introduce ne

Re: [Rd] RFC: allow packages to advertise vignettes on Windows

2007-05-15 Thread Thomas Friedrichsmeier
On Tuesday 15 May 2007, Duncan Murdoch wrote: > I'm interested in making vignettes more visible.  Putting them on the > menu is not the only way, but since you're offering to do the work, I > think it's a good idea :-). [...] > - Should they appear in a top level Vignettes menu, or as a subme

Re: [Rd] RFC: allow packages to advertise vignettes on Windows

2007-05-15 Thread Friedrich Leisch
> On Mon, 14 May 2007 20:58:11 -0400, > Duncan Murdoch (DM) wrote: > [ ... GUI stuff deleted ] I'm of course very much in favor of adding vignettes automatically to the GUI. > By the way, another way to expose vignettes is to have them > automatically added to the package hel

Re: [Rd] RFC: allow packages to advertise vignettes on Windows

2007-05-14 Thread Seth Falcon
Duncan Murdoch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm interested in making vignettes more visible. Putting them on the > menu is not the only way, but since you're offering to do the work, I > think it's a good idea :-). Excellent :-) > A few questions: > > - Should packages need to take any action

Re: [Rd] RFC: allow packages to advertise vignettes on Windows

2007-05-14 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 14/05/2007 7:15 PM, Seth Falcon wrote: > Hello, > > The vignette concept, which started in Bioconductor, seems to be > catching on. They are supported by R CMD build/check and documented > in the Writing R Extensions manual. I think vignettes are a fantastic > way to introduce new users to a

[Rd] RFC: allow packages to advertise vignettes on Windows

2007-05-14 Thread Seth Falcon
Hello, The vignette concept, which started in Bioconductor, seems to be catching on. They are supported by R CMD build/check and documented in the Writing R Extensions manual. I think vignettes are a fantastic way to introduce new users to a package. However, getting new users to realize that a