Good morning, I use SAS and R/S-Plus as my primary tools so I have a lot of experience with these programs. By far and away, SAS is superior for handling the "messy" datasets, but also the very large ones. I work at times with datasets in the hundreds of thousands (and on occasion, millions) of records. SAS, and especially PROC SQL, are invaluable for this. But once I get to datasets manageable for R/S-Plus, then I ship to these tools for the programming and graphics. This seems to work great.
Walt Paczkowski Data Analytics Corp. -----Original Message----- >From: Rob Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Jan 17, 2008 4:31 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [R] things that are difficult/impossible to do in SAS or SPSSbut >simple in R > > >I wonder if those who complain about SAS as a programming environment have >discovered SAS/IML which provides a programming environment akin to Matlab >which is more than capable (at least for those problems which can be treated >with a matrix like approach). As someone who uses both SAS and R - graphical >output is so much easier in R, but for handling large 'messy' datasets SAS >wins hands down... >Cheers >Rob > >*** Want to know about Britain's birds? Try www.bto.org/birdfacts *** > >Dr Rob Robinson, Senior Population Biologist >British Trust for Ornithology, The Nunnery, Thetford, Norfolk, IP24 2PU >Ph: +44 (0)1842 750050 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Fx: +44 (0)1842 750030 W: http://www.bto.org > >==== "How can anyone be enlightened, when truth is so poorly lit" ===== > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeffrey J. Hallman >> Sent: 16 January 2008 22:38 >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: Re: [R] things that are difficult/impossible to do >> in SAS or SPSSbut simple in R >> >> SAS has no facilities for date arithmetic and no easy way to >> build it yourself. In fact, that's the biggest problem with >> SAS: it stinks as a programming environment, so it's always >> much more difficult than it should be to do something new. >> As soon as you get away from the canned procs and have to >> write something of your own, SAS falls down. >> >> I don't know enough about SPSS to comment. >> -- >> Jeff >> >> ______________________________________________ >> R-help@r-project.org mailing list >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help >> PLEASE do read the posting guide >> http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html >> and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. >> > >______________________________________________ >R-help@r-project.org mailing list >https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help >PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html >and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. ______________________________________________ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.