Re: [R] How do I compare 47 GLM models with 1 to 5 interactions and unique combinations?

2012-01-27 Thread Greg Snow
ct.org [mailto:r-help-bounces@r- > project.org] On Behalf Of Jhope > Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 2:26 PM > To: r-help@r-project.org > Subject: Re: [R] How do I compare 47 GLM models with 1 to 5 > interactions and unique combinations? > > I ask the question about when

Re: [R] How do I compare 47 GLM models with 1 to 5 interactions and unique combinations?

2012-01-27 Thread Frank Harrell
28 > Para: r-help@ > Asunto: Re: [R] How do I compare 47 GLM models with 1 to 5 interactions > and unique combinations? > > Ruben, I'm not sure you are understanding the ramifications of what Bert > said. In addition you are making several assumptions implicitly: > > -- &g

Re: [R] How do I compare 47 GLM models with 1 to 5 interactions and unique combinations?

2012-01-27 Thread Rubén Roa
-Mensaje original- De: r-help-boun...@r-project.org [mailto:r-help-boun...@r-project.org] En nombre de Frank Harrell Enviado el: viernes, 27 de enero de 2012 14:28 Para: r-help@r-project.org Asunto: Re: [R] How do I compare 47 GLM models with 1 to 5 interactions and unique combinations

Re: [R] How do I compare 47 GLM models with 1 to 5 interactions and unique combinations?

2012-01-27 Thread Frank Harrell
: Rubén Roa > CC: Ben Bolker; Frank Harrell > Asunto: Re: [R] How do I compare 47 GLM models with 1 to 5 interactions > and unique combinations? > > On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 11:39 PM, Rubén Roa <rroa@> wrote: >> I think we have gone through this before. >> First, the de

Re: [R] How do I compare 47 GLM models with 1 to 5 interactions and unique combinations?

2012-01-27 Thread Rubén Roa
-Mensaje original- De: Bert Gunter [mailto:gunter.ber...@gene.com] Enviado el: jueves, 26 de enero de 2012 21:20 Para: Rubén Roa CC: Ben Bolker; Frank Harrell Asunto: Re: [R] How do I compare 47 GLM models with 1 to 5 interactions and unique combinations? On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 11:39

Re: [R] How do I compare 47 GLM models with 1 to 5 interactions and unique combinations?

2012-01-26 Thread Bert Gunter
Simple question. 8 million pages in the statistical literature of answers. What, indeed, is the secret to life? Post on a statistical help list (e.g. stats.stackexchange.com). This has almost nothing to do with R. Be prepared for an onslaught of often conflicting "wisdom." -- Bert On Thu, Jan 26

Re: [R] How do I compare 47 GLM models with 1 to 5 interactions and unique combinations?

2012-01-26 Thread Jhope
I ask the question about when to stop adding another variable even though it lowers the AIC because each time I add a variable the AIC is lower. How do I know when the model is a good fit? When to stop adding variables, keeping the model simple? Thanks, J -- View this message in context: http://

Re: [R] How do I compare 47 GLM models with 1 to 5 interactions and unique combinations?

2012-01-26 Thread Frank Harrell
eans lower expected K-L distance, period. > > For the record, Brian Ripley has often expressed the (minority) opinion > that AIC is *not* appropriate for comparing non-nested models (e.g. > <http://tolstoy.newcastle.edu.au/R/help/06/02/21794.html>;). > > >>

Re: [R] How do I compare 47 GLM models with 1 to 5 interactions and unique combinations?

2012-01-26 Thread Jhope
Thank you everyone for your dedication to improving 'R' - its function to statistical analysis and comments. I have now 48 models (unique combinations of 1 to 6 variables) and have put them into a list and gained the results for all models. Below is a sample of my script & results: m$model48 <-

Re: [R] How do I compare 47 GLM models with 1 to 5 interactions and unique combinations?

2012-01-25 Thread Rubén Roa
-boun...@r-project.org] En nombre de Ben Bolker Enviado el: miércoles, 25 de enero de 2012 15:41 Para: r-h...@stat.math.ethz.ch Asunto: Re: [R]How do I compare 47 GLM models with 1 to 5 interactions and unique combinations? Rubén Roa azti.es> writes: > A more 'manual' way to do it i

Re: [R] How do I compare 47 GLM models with 1 to 5 interactions and unique combinations?

2012-01-25 Thread Ben Bolker
Ripley has often expressed the (minority) opinion that AIC is *not* appropriate for comparing non-nested models (e.g. <http://tolstoy.newcastle.edu.au/R/help/06/02/21794.html>). > > -Original Message----- > From: r-help-bounces r-project.org on behalf of Milan Bouchet-Va

Re: [R] How do I compare 47 GLM models with 1 to 5 interactions and unique combinations?

2012-01-25 Thread Frank Harrell
If you are trying to destroy all aspects of statistical inference this is a good way to go. This is also a good way to ignore the subject matter in driving model selection. Frank Jhope wrote > > Hi R-listers, > > I have developed 47 GLM models with different combinations of interactions > from

Re: [R] How do I compare 47 GLM models with 1 to 5 interactions and unique combinations?

2012-01-25 Thread Rubén Roa
AZTI Tecnalia, Txatxarramendi Ugartea z/g, Sukarrieta, Bizkaia, SPAIN -Original Message- From: r-help-boun...@r-project.org on behalf of Milan Bouchet-Valat Sent: Wed 1/25/2012 10:32 AM To: Jhope Cc: r-help@r-project.org Subject: Re: [R] How do I compare 47 GLM models with 1 to 5 interactions and u

Re: [R] How do I compare 47 GLM models with 1 to 5 interactions and unique combinations?

2012-01-25 Thread Milan Bouchet-Valat
Le mardi 24 janvier 2012 à 20:41 -0800, Jhope a écrit : > Hi R-listers, > > I have developed 47 GLM models with different combinations of interactions > from 1 variable to 5 variables. I have manually made each model separately > and put them into individual tables (organized by the number of vari

[R] How do I compare 47 GLM models with 1 to 5 interactions and unique combinations?

2012-01-25 Thread Jhope
Hi R-listers, I have developed 47 GLM models with different combinations of interactions from 1 variable to 5 variables. I have manually made each model separately and put them into individual tables (organized by the number of variables) showing the AIC score. I want to compare all of these model